You seem to have gotten it wrong. I am not against you winning (by all means you do that). I am simply stating the goal here is to increase engagement, it may not be how you see it but that is how I see it and to me winning is just a bonus.
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the end product of all our motive is to win not only in pobtalk but in the community as a whole, but I understand what you mean what I meant is that as the community grows it is also a profit, so we can all win at the end