There are always going to be people who say Hive is not for charity ... but then you track what they use their access to the DHF on, and you find out that sometimes, they want Hive to use as their personal slush fund and resent money going to people who are in need, not INEPT. Hive is for whatever the Hive community says it is for -- and a BUNCH OF US are standing strong on charity being part of that, PERIOD. You keep doing what you are doing at KBK. It takes a long time for "people over profit" to prevail ... but IT WILL, in good time.