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RE: TIL - To Some : Playing Poker = Gambling ... Even When No Money Is Risked

This whole situation was blown out of proportion by you. You came into our discord and asked a why the post was muted and @pusen told you that he was going to find it out, then you throw a hissy fit like a child and write novels trying to bash the gaming community instead of waiting until @pusen found out who muted the post. It was muted by one of our mods that is not a native English speaker and this whole situation could have been fixed pretty easily. Pretty disappointed in the Lucksacks team for this whole thing.

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pretty disappointed your mods would just mute without understanding.

Could have been fixed pretty easily without the temper tantrum from your team.

No one had to care about what Tuck wrote. Turns out he is allowed to have his opinions without worrying about others' feelings. The fact that he's right about the hypocrisy involved is what gets under y'all's skin, so you throw your 'whatevers' and your 'hissy fit' and 'i'm so disappointed in you' - dad voice around instead of listening and making positive changes.

Probably everyone is over this by now (hopefully) but I didn't have time to get back on yesterday so... anyway.

 3 years ago  

It was just one post tho, why all the drama if we can remove the mute with just 2 clicks?

Oh yeah, because it's easier to be dramatic and make a completely absurd post instead of just waiting for an answer, right?

No one here cares about the mute. Everyone at HGC is focusing on the mute we care nothing about. Posting in your community wasn't helping us, we were invited to post so we did and now we won't.

It's about calling our site "gambling" and how it hurts our community and support for our community by continuing to spew that nonsense publicly.

It was your mod who came on our post where I addressed the "gambling" fallacy and in the same sentence where he states that he knows we don't allow gambling he says "poker in general is related to gambling". Then went on to say that poker wasn't even gaming according to the HGC.

So I pointed out that HGC allows the promoting of a game that doesn't exist and sells a token classified by US law as an unregistered security and that's considered "gaming" by HGC.

It's also considered "illegal" in the US where the lead developer resides. So it's just funny to me that you guys openly allow the promotion of a non-existent game selling an unregistered security (by the owners own admission) in your community while claiming you muted our post due to "gambling" (yet your mod knows we don't allow gambling) and that ours is not even "gaming". 😂

And now to make it even odder, "your team" is saying that some mod who doesn't even speak English very well was allowed to mute the post without consulting anyone else on it's content when we've been posting in there (invited) for months without issue, yet the non-existent game selling an unregistered security token is never questioned??? lol

Come on man, you guys can do better than this. Why shit on our project as some illegal "gambling" site not only in your discord, but on our own post, while you allow non-existent games selling unregistered security tokens to thrive as "gaming" and "legal"?

It's funny that 3 of you now are here defending this practice too and acting like the fact that I'm calling out your bullshit of allowing illegal activity to thrive while claiming freeroll poker is "gambling" is hilarious.

Being muted was no big deal, I was just curious why it was muted, but I had a good idea why and I wanted to hear it and then address the bad reasoning for why.

What I addressed is the "gambling" fallacy. Mute all you want, I was invited to post in HGC so it was just a bit odd to get muted for "gambling" after being invited.

And then I got the exact response I expected "gambling". So I addressed that misconception that has hurt our community for 5 years. That misguided reasoning is what has kept Lucksacks from getting support on Steem and Hive since we started in 2017.

I hear it time and time again and I'm sick of it and people who have no idea what they're talking about in legal terms try to break down their red herrings to excuse the fact that they have no idea what they're talking about on the legal front all while allowing an admitted unregistered security to thrive in the same community.

It's ridiculous to me, so I expressed how ridiculous it all is. I'm sorry you don't like me pointing out how "your team" allows unregistered securities for games that don't exist to thrive in your "gaming" community while muting games that have existed for 5 years (long before Hive Gaming Community came along).

I could have easily explained everything and taught the rest of the Hive Gaming team about your project without you running off and acting like a child about this whole thing. I know that Lucksacks isn't gambling, but you decided to run off the deep end instead.

Honestly, I don't care anything about HGC or being a part of it. I'll say it again, I was invited to post there and it was a big mistake obviously.

Muting the post makes it appear that we did something wrong, when we didn't. Following up the mute by one of your mods publicly (not privately) communicating that our site was muted for "gambling" in "your team" Discord, then coming on our posts and saying it again warrants a response.

Why?

Because for 5 years that's the reason that's been given to us for why we can't get support from the ecosystem. "Gambling" is the go to catch phrase everyone uses and here we are again after 5 years with someone again associating "gambling" with our website and doing it repeatedly publicly.

I think it's rather odd for "your team" to come onto my post, where I'm explaining that we're not a "gambling" site, when I didn't even name your community in the post. But you all did and one of you wanted to argue the "gambling" angle again for no apparent reason.

Why is that?

Why is "your team" not concerned at all with the fact that your community allows non-existent games who sell illegal unregistered securities to thrive and post at will, yet your biggest concern of the day is some guy who never even mentioned your community making a post destroying the fake narrative that our site is a "gambling" site?

Very odd.

But please, continue not addressing any of these points and hurl ad hominem attacks at me. It really makes you look manly and sophisticated.

I expect better of you @derangedvisions than this. :(

Out of everything I read here your comment saddens me more than anything else.

Glad I could be a disappointment to people other than my parents