Hive has been around since March 20, 2020. Let’s take a look how we are doing when it comes to burning HIVE.
The initial option that was built-in for burning HIVE was the promote option. On the old chain there was a promote section tab, that was mainly not used by almost anyone. Now this tab is no longer on Hive.Blog so the initial idea for burning HIVE is not available now.
Peakd have developed their own model for promotion and burning HIVE and it seems that it is used a bit. Not on a massive scale though, but yet there is some.
Other options for burning HIVE are the cost for creating account and community (3 HIVE) and also for making proposals.
In the past there were a few initiatives for burning tokens with setting null as beneficiary on posts like the @burnpost. Now this initiative is runed by @buildawhale with voting on the comments.
From technical standpoint we can summarize the burning options in three sections:
- Transfers to null
- Null as post beneficiary
- New accounts creation fee
The period that we will be looking here is from 2020 to 2024
Transfers to @null Account
Here is a breakdown by month for HIVE transferred to null.
The chart is on a monthly level.
Here we can see that there is one big burn event with transfers to @null in February 2021. The chart is even cut out to 5k for visibility while the transfer is to 200k. This was a transfer made from the previous account that was used to peg the HBD price. In the last period we can see that the overall transfers to @null are insignificant and in small amounts. On average around 100 HIVE per months has been burnt per month in the last period.
Top Accounts Making Transfers to @null in 2024
Who has been transferring to @null? Here is the chart for 2024.
The @hivetoday account is on the top. On the second spot is the @jane1289 account followed by @peakd. My guess these are promotions of PeakD.
Setting @null as Beneficiary
Another way for burning HIVE is setting @null as beneficiary. For the not so familiar what this means, it basically sent the rewards for that post to @null, burning them.
Here is the chart.
The chart is on a monthly basisi.
We can notice the spike in the amounts of HIVE sent to @null as post beneficiary. This is due to the renewed campaigh by @buildawhale that is making a daily burn post with multiple comments that can be voted on. Some large stakeholders are using this to burn HIVE.
In the last months around 25k HIVE per month is burned from @null as beneficiary.
Top Accounts Setting @null as Beneficiary in 2024
Here is the table for top users that burned HIVE in the period with setting @null as beneficiary in 2024.
The @buildawhale account is dominating this chart with 200k HIVE burned in 2024. On the second spot is the @sps.dao.report followed by @holozing.
Account Creation Fees
Another way for burning HIVE is from the creation of HIVE accounts.
Here is the chart.
The chart is on a monthly basis.
We can notice the spike in the amounts of HIVE burned from account creation fees back in September - October 2021. In this period Splinterlands created a lot of accounts and burned a lot of HIVE in the process. Close to 2M HIVE was burned in a period of three months.
In the other months this number is very low, with around 800 HIVE burned per month.
Top Accounts Burning HIVE from Account Creations Fees in 2024
Here is the table for top users that burned HIVE in the period from acount creation.
The @hive-recovery account is on the top here followed by @hivecoinfree. @starkerz is on the third spot.
Cumulative HIVE Burned
Here is the chart for the cumulative HIVE burned by category.
Here we can see the dominance in the burns from the account creation fees in September 2021 by Splinterlands and the one big transfer to @null in February 2021 with 200k HIVE burned.
In total there is around 213k HIVE burned with sent to null, 255k from null as beneficiary and 2M from account creation fees.
This shows that account creation fees has the larger potential to burn HIVE.
When we zoom in 2024 we can see the folowing chart:
Here is a clearer representation.We can see the growth starting from February 2024. The beneficiary part is dominant, account creation fees are second and tranfers to null are almost non existent. Between 20k to 30k HIVE burned per month in the last year.
If we consider the HIVE inflation with around 2 million new tokens created per month (depending on HBD prinitng), the sum above is small. There is some effort for impleenting systematic sollution to burn HIVE, like the way Peakd is doing it, but this has obviously not scaled.
Burning HIVE is mainly about reducing inflation. Infation is a long debated topic here and the point is that it can be easely offset by growth and demand. The official inflation is around 6% now but it can greathly be moved in one direction or another depending on the HBD conversions. 2024 will probably end with 10% inflation.
HIVE to HBD conversions can have a lot more powerfull impact in the amount of HIVE removed from circualtion, but I have not included those one here since that HIVE is not techicly burned but it has changed form so to speak and can in theory be returned back.
From the above we have seen that creating new accounts has been the largest source for burning HIVE. While this has mostly happened in a one time spike it is still has the most effective way for burning HIVE. We just need to onboard users 😊. On the second spot is the beneficiary accout from curation.
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The HiveToday burns are for PeakD post promotion. When you promote a post on PeakD, half of the Hive is burned and the other half goes to @peakd.
This year inflation has been higher than expected. Perhaps the burns can compensate somewhat, but the important thing is to attract more users.
Pretty sad, imo, that the largest stakeholders would rather burn it than let the restofus have it.
Why? Have you seen trending? Have you seen the farming protected users have been doing? Have you seen the millions the DHF is wasting?
Because attracting users is its purpose.
It's not authors' faults that curators have made the place soooo unwelcoming.
'Join the gang or it gets nothing. It jumps the hoops or it gets the flag!'
Free thinking sovereigns won't be voluntarily having much of that, as the truancy numbers clearly reveal.
Yes, but not often, nor lately.
No, I haven't, but I will take your word for it.
Well, I did see that one 80rep guy being exposed.
But, excepting you, how many complainants have skin in the game?
I have been offering a solution to this issue for a long time, but the people with the power to make the moves are unwilling.
Power in the hive must be willingly left unused by those with the most of it for the restofus to benefit enough to continue to play the game.
That power point has not yet been breached by hive.
Steemhad it, and squandered it.Hive has failed to launch it, instead 'they' take what they can, 'because they can'.
No surprises that people that can math don't play our game, imo.
The power to price ratio is too far out of whack.
And that is unlikely to change any time soon, in the opinion of many.
If satoshi had kept it all for himself there would be no value in it.
We are currently not attracting users.
Most are just trying to extract what they can.
Why would anyone invest only to give up their ability to make a return, especially on a depreciating asset?
In my modest opinion, the most efficient way would be that the HIVE purchased with HBD by the stabilizer must be burned and not returned to the DHF.
Does claiming an account creation ticket burn 3 Hive or does it when the ticket is used?
Also, what do you think about burning the Hive the stabilizer gets from selling HBD? Just thinking about some burn mechanism and if it can be implemented.
Using an Account Claim does not burn anything but the account claim token.
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Buildawhale is downvoting my original content and others and blocktrades is supporting this not a good look
I think with burning the rewards sometimes it feels a lot better to write some textes without any background in getting money. So i would make my writings more attraktive for non Hive Users to read hopefully, becouse a lot of people have a problem with getting rewards for writing posts.
Also i think if we burn more Hive, we can make it more interessting for the big stakeholders on the exchanges to turn their Hive back in the community for let it work as it was thought.
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Of course we have seen this project succeeding for a long time and will continue to do so, now the time has come when we will see its value increasing.
The hive inflation is really increasing massively and this is something beautiful to actually see