Why HIVE Pumped? 3Speak or YouTube? SEO Talk and more .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #12 (January 8, 2025)

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I suppose the hardest thing to do is to come back to the working routine after the holidays, or a longer break... 😃 Christmas and New Year holidays and a 3-days getaway trip to another city were such a nice "logout" from the workload (but still doing basic things on the way), that I had a hard time to kick myself in the butt and do this show! I was even considering skipping another week as to why I didn't create a classic announcement post for the show... At least I used our short-content platforms to announce it a few hours before doing it! Something good came out of it... 😃


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What's also interesting is that those shows that aren't prepared, very often come out as a huge success... When I say huge success, it means that the discussion is well developed, many people participated in it, and it got a lot of value in bringing it up! Of course, in these "freestyle" editions, I have to say that most of the merits go to the participants who ignited the topics and participated in it... Don't want to take merits for someone else's work!


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As I did a lousy job with promoting the show, we had a small group of active Hivians... I have to mention, that we had for the first time @alohaed and @dlmmqb, and they both jumped on the mic to introduce themselves and share some ideas and topics! It was great to have you on the show and I hope you will join them in the future too! Of course, the hardcore group of #HHHLive participants is always there and I don't know what would I do without you guys!

So, how it was? Well, I dropped a few ideas at the beginning of the show, like New Year resolutions, or HIVE goals for 2025, but it looks like none of them stuck with participants... 😃 The discussion went in the other direction, as the elephant in the room was the recent HIVE pump... But, this time, without the "dump" that was usually coming right behind the corner... When @felixxx came on the microphone sharing that it caught him off guard, it was comforting as I have to admit that I was caught off guard too! I sold some of my HIVE which I use for "playing around" (mostly for accumulating more through trades), in the expectation that the price would go down fast, and I will be able to buy more... That didn't happen, but I'm not worried, the majority of the tokens are still there, working as HivePower! 💪


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Why was the HIVE price pumped? That was the first topic for discussion and @alohaed shared his view about it, stating that probably the main reason was that Binance added HIVE into their perpetual trading, and not long after that, a few more exchanges listed HIVE on them... That was an additional gasoline on fire, that pushed the price almost to 70 cents!

From that topic, we moved to talk about HivePower and how it is accumulating in the bull market and in the bear market... @palomap3 shared her idea of swapping from 100% HP rewards to 50-50% rewards to be able to use the liquid HBD to buy later more HIVE... Not a bad move, IF the price goes down... 🙂 As many people expect that the bull run has just started, we saw many Hivians powering down their HivePower, to have liquid HIVE to take some profits... If that trend continues, there is a chance that the curation rewards for the "rest of us" could go up... But, we will see...


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@jza joined the show a bit later this time, but he wanted to contribute and shared that he agrees about the recent HIVE pump reason... He also started another huge topic which was floating around until the end of the show... He shared his recent experience with onboarding a friend to 3Speak and their confusion with rewards... It's not that easy for a newbie to understand that not the whole amount that shows under the post/video is the "payout amount" for the author... What should those calculations look like? Is it better to show ONLY author rewards under the post, or we should do it somehow differently... We had different opinions regarding that...

Of course, that led to the inevitable comparison between YouTube and 3Speak... Pros and cons, and how 3Speak could do better... Somehow, because they don't understand, newbies undervalue the importance of curation on HIVE, and curation rewards in general... It is a specific concept on HIVE, and it can't be comparable with anything similar on YouTube... The conclusion is somehow always the same, any dapp on HIVE, or HIVE itself, could be better and grow better if we share our suggestions at the right place... For example, 3Speak Discord could be a good place to share ideas about these small tweaks for the UX of the website...


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In the second part of the show, closer to the end, @dlmmqb joined us on the microphone and shared some of his thoughts about the SEO on HIVE... Interestingly, I did a post about a very similar topic, where I tried to ignite discussion about the value of HIVE posts outside HIVE, as to get those visits, we have to be more "visible" on the search engines and that means better SEO...

As @dlmmqb didn't want all this finished only in words, he shared his work in the SEO field and ideas on how to improve it... Dynamic webpages are one of the "must-haves" and the idea of showing random posts is a nice start... As we were closing to the end of the show, @melinda010100 suggested @dlmmqb share those ideas in the "suggestion channel" on the Ecency discord! Usually, good and valuable ideas are implemented by developers! We hope that this will be the case for these ideas too!


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As this was the Special Edition show, there is no recording of the show, so if you want to participate in these ones, you are always welcome to join! It is open to everyone and we would like to hear your thoughts and experiences... This time we had 11 participants (including myself)... Thanks, @alohaed, @bulkathos, @felixxx, @foxkoit, @jza, @melinda010100, @palomap3, @dlmmqb, @sacra97, and @travoved! Thanks everyone for participating!!!


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Thank you, guys and girls, once again! As a sign of appreciation, I will send some LEN tokens to all participants of the live show! You can pair them with LENM tokens, add liquidity to the diesel pool, and earn rewards! If you want to learn more about the project behind it, check out the @liotes account or visit the Liotes website... Of course, if you are not interested in it, you can sell tokens on the Hive-Engine market...

To encourage more people to come on the mic, I have sent an additional 100 Ecency POINTS to people who shared their thoughts in voice with us (this time we had 4 participants in voice)! So POINTS are going to @alohaed, @felixxx, @jza, and @dlmmqb!

Special thanks goes to @melinda010100 and @good-karma for providing the space for the event!

Thank you for your time,
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Reasons for the pump. Oh its simple, the charts don't lie, this was expected. I said before the summer that we are going to create a bear trap and accumulate for 5 months just like last cycle. I covered the breakout and retest that led to the rally. We hit one of the 3 highest overbought levels in history and are printing bearish divergence on the daily, I hope we get another push for the $1 mark looks right by my charts before a 3 month correction like last cycle. We are mirroring the last cycle just like I said would happen, at least for now. (chart 4 days old or have to remove all my glutter ;)

Thanks for this nice TA! I will hold your word about $1 HIVE in the next 2 weeks!!! 😃

I'm buying HIVE now for 100K, to double it up in 2 weeks... Just kidding... 😃

Thank you and you are welcome. We made our buy in the accumulation box. I turned all my hbd I had on the retest and then it made sense to dca out in the rally to buy the correction in the future, I will need patience it will come. When you will post again about ppl cry when prices go down, probably during the upcoming correction, then it is time to rebuy again.

did u join with 100k move stop to entry.. just kidding.. 😃 Next leg? We need to make a higher high eiter this week or next, then $1. gn :) ![]

Hahahaha... It's funny because it happened just a few hours after that comment... lol... 😂

Thanks for the show, I enjoyed that and will definitely attend the next one.
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Oh, sorry for not answering you in the show... The topics were bouncing all around the place... Not sure if you checked out our website https://liotes.com/ ?

Also, you can find some old posts from the @liotes account and find out how we started... It was over 3 years ago!!!

We have Liotes Discord where you can ask questions and throw ideas, or talk about whatever you want... It is sometimes quiet as we keep most of our communication on our @liotes account here on HIVE, but we are there if you need help... ;)

Great talk, I really liked having the discussion on how organic is really 3Speak and how things can fix things to improve for the others.

Having a breakdowns on the rewards is something that could be done to improve the User Experience and avoid feeling confused and frustrated on #3Speak

Also the dynamic in which content work in Hive and how some of this is not easily connected with the path of growth of a content creator makes it challenging. Content takes a backseat to strategic alliances and more 'game theory' than true organic growth based on ideas and quality of content. Even a single tag will send your article into the obscurity of those you want to reach out.

Unfortunately, all those things that you mentioned are the weak points of HIVE... SEO, finding older posts, visibility of posts, etc... Breaking down to smaller frontends and communities could help, but it looks like there is no interest in doing it... or maybe an effective way to run it...

There is also the need to generate investment for a cause. A DAO sort of structure that focus on raising investment and rewarding actions. I understand that it's possible but not many people know it.

"What's also interesting is that those shows that aren't prepared, very often come out as a huge success.." When the expectation is lower and turns out something great happens I view this as purpose. You are in the right place at the right time and something valuable is happening for you. I'm not an expert on these things but what I do is cherish those moments, listen and learn.

Yup! These "special edition" shows are all about listening and learning... As we do have many participants in voice (or chat) sharing their views and experiences... Win-win for everyone! 🎉

The reason why Hive is a pump is that it is listed on many exchanges and is starting to attract attention. From now on, Hive's up and down movements will be much more interesting because in the leveraged market, a dollar of Hive could mean that someone can become a millionaire with very small investments.

Yeah, the effect of futures trading on Binance can be multiplied because of the leveraged trading... But, in my opinion, what happened after that was even more important... Those few exchanges that added HIVE are something that will have a long-term impact... Btw. Binance had HIVE in Perpetual trading in the past, but they removed it because of the low interest... I hope they will not remove it again...

Fingers crossed man. That will help Hive a lot!

Hey, sorry for leaving so abruptly, then.
I had stuff to do...

No worries... It happens...

Btw, thanks for joining! 🙏

It was because HIVE/TRY pair was added 😄

Hehehehe... Does that pair really exist or are you just joking?
I mean, I know that you are joking that it moved the price... but I'm curious if that pair exists...

The price is slowing going down again tough, might get back to 0,4$, will we see it to 1$ again this year? then you can expect big power downs i guess

Just after you wrote that comment, we had another pump... 😃

then you can expect big power downs i guess

We already have some big power downs... Check out those whale accounts... :)

Haha that's why I don't do crypto trading, I always call it wrong 😂

Sounds like you have a lot fun there! 💯👍🏾

Yes, we did have a lot of fun... You should join us in some of the future shows!

Sure! When are you planning the next one? Let me see if I can make it after work.

i have a feeling 3speak don't want to do UX at all, so they decided to make speak network and let other people to make frontends for it 😂

I am going to keep Hive. Atleast looking for $3 price before I think of unstaking it.

Swing trade is a good strategy but it just bring anxiety and constant watch on market.

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Hive has broken the strong resistance that it could not overcome for a long time after the successive news. 3Speak has its shortcomings, it cannot be an alternative to YouTube at the moment. However, it is nice that it exists. We should support it.

It sounds like a lot of people have different views on what Hive will do. I agree that saving HBD for Hive later doesn't sound like a bad idea but if Hive keeps pumping, then you won't get the Hive you want. Then again, I think that if you average things out over time, I think you will eventually win out because I do think Hive will drop back down eventually.

Hehe and we just had another pump today! I wonder if there will be another one tomorrow! Hahaha!
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to have liquid HIVE to take some profits... If that trend continues, there is a chance that the curation rewards for the "rest of us" could go up... But, we will see...

So, are you implying that the benefit of staying powered up, up to this point is that it can potentially increase curation rewards for those who stayed powered up..?

I might be wrong, I'm just assuming that was what you meant.