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abitcoinskeptic (74)in The LIFESTYLE LOUNGE • 5 years ago (edited)

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5 years ago in The LIFESTYLE LOUNGE by abitcoinskeptic (74)

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nickyhavey (74) 5 years ago

Great stuff mate, I was going to write about the different keys in my next Bluffer's Guide so would go well with what you have written here. We should have a pretty comprehensive guide to steem soon 😉

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago (edited)

There is a great diagram of the different keys on steemit wallet. The difference between master and owner took me awhile to fully get.

Please be so kind to allow me the pleasure of cross-posting to the FAQ community. I was actually planning on looking for stuff to crosspost there (I will limit 1 of mine a week [no covert-self upvote] and 1 a day of others'). I just want to wait till the community grows a little so more people are around to see.

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nickyhavey (74) 5 years ago

Yes I remember seeing that in steemitwallet. It was like a pyramid diagram right? Haven't used steemit for a long time!

Are you asking me to cross post this to your FAQ community? Still getting my head around all that. Didn't know it actually copied the whole blog post and made a new one! Just thought it was like a resteem and shared it in like with FB groups.

Won't be making that mistake again lol.

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

Yup. That's it. I checked out steem wallet to get my quoted text on keys!

Im asking if I can use the @steem.faq account I made to cross-post. I don't expect you to fill up your blog with self-cross-posts. It's a weird feature and an annoying way to get a post on a niche community. Not sure why we can't just revamp the resteem to allow this...

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nickyhavey (74) 5 years ago

Yea resteeming would make more sense for sure rather than this!

I'd say so but probably not for a month or so. Reckon there shouldn't be cross-posting on a live post which is something I discovered when doing my travel post a couple of days ago.

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

Thank you ~♡~

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goldendawne (69) 5 years ago

This is definitely a post everyone should bookmark; just in case.
I've read the horror stories of this happening; and if you're like me, you are on steemit every day and this would absolutely throw a curve ball into life.

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

Absolutely. My intention is to help people understand the process so they are familiar in case the worst does happen or to help avoid messing up.
I would hate to have to figure everything out while watching some hacker power-down my account and wreck everything. The faster this process is done the better.

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papilloncharity (80) 5 years ago

Bookmarked my friend and thank you for your time to create this great post!
Blessings!

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

It could as a matter of musfortunate become an important topic. I hope you or anyone never needs it.

I'll admit it isn't a ahiny or warm topic. However, I noticed a lack of info on this topic when posting the last one. A lot of it looked complicated and technical. But the procedure is simple and safe if one has access to their recent keys.

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papilloncharity (80) 5 years ago (edited)

Well, you are doing great things for the members with these kind of posts my friend. You should definitely continue with them as they are of much value and they should all be at the top in trending because of their importance.
Don't forget, I would still like to know why my posts lose value every day and then at 7 days lose another big cut.
Does it depend on the front end that one uses and how much does each front end charge?
Blessings!

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

Thanks. I find them helpful, too. Eventually I will make a directory of mine and others I find. But I want to wait a little while longer as there are so many changees happening now.

I'm planning to do it for next week. I have founded the difference between the front ends I use are similar (as I remember it used to be different maybe things were consolidated), the key is understanding how STU is calculated and the relation between that and Steem and SBD. Maybe I'll make a diagram to explain.

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papilloncharity (80) 5 years ago (edited)

Ah yes! A directory will be good methinks!

Another difficulty is for example to get 100 upvotes and only 5% are 10 cents and more.
The majority of the votes are $00.00, or .01 or .02
Can't they stop to show the low value votes, so that a person can better judge their progress?
Or does an empty vote have any value?

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

I think a filter could work to remove irrelevantvotes (<0.001 or even less than 0.01), especially if one wants to analyze the value of their post. But they are worth something as people seem to complain about tue equally valueless downvotes.

I think some people just like to see lots, but between me and you I'd rather have a comment than a low downvote.

SBD payments have stopped again so we won't see as much price change between Steem and SBD. Also it seems the excitement from Tron is now dying off a little. Maybe the price of Steem will slow its movements.

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papilloncharity (80) 5 years ago

Well I have a list currently of 47 downvotes thus far and there might be some that I have missed. I just don't see any sense in it.
You are right as things seem to be calming down.
Blessings!

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 5 years ago

Great =)

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krunkypuram (57) 4 years ago

Hey @abitcoinskeptic, just want to say thank you very much for writing this post. I am in a kinda nightmare situation and this info has been invaluable to generating hope for a recovery of my main account, @barge.

You mention in the post that you are here to help. If I have any questions or doubts about the process may I approach you?

In gratitude
🙏

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 4 years ago

I hope you are able to recover your account. You need to check who the recovery account is set to (I hope it is not Steem/Steemit) and you must have access to a password that was used within the last 30 days.

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krunkypuram (57) 4 years ago

Thanks for getting back!

The current situation is:

I changed my recovery account from Steem to an alt of mine (@nutraj) just 9 minutes before I changed the passwords (which I then lost). This was the start of the issue.
I was able to generate my old (last used 1 Oct) Owner keys using the old Master I had. I verified that the public owner key I got matched the one on my account as per the instructions in your post. I am therefore confident I have the required keys to initiate account recovery
I changed my recovery account at 2020-10-01 14:29:36 (UTC)
I changed my keys at 2020-10-01 14:38:57 (UTC)

I believe I'm covered. I have access to the recovery account and need to make sure I don't miss this tiny window of opportunity. I also need to ensure I have a backup PC ready as well as a hotspot from a mobile, in case of some freak circumstance affecting computer or network.

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this and my chances.

Many thanks again.

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 4 years ago

That is a tight schedule. It's a shame you lost your new password just after changing the recovery account, But a good thing you control all accounts.

I suggest you have your keys labelled ready in a note pad or something to just copy and paste.

You are lucky it's a couple weeks after the hardfork and the network should be stable.

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krunkypuram (57) 4 years ago

I know huh, quite James Bondesque in a way!

I count my good fortunes. It could've been much worse if I had not thought to change the recovery account before changing passwords - doubt if Steem would be moved to recover Hive accounts. I'd be a gonner!

A stable network would be great. The nodes were playing up the day I lost my keys, as detailed in my post about it, but full and ultimate responsibility is mine.

I'll defo have the keys to had to copy and paste.

Thanks again, I'll be sure to update you after the 31st, when I can let go of this at last.

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krunkypuram (57) 4 years ago (edited)

Hi again @abitcoinskeptic, I wonder if you're able to advise me a little more please:

I'm trying to perform an account recovery on HiveWorld as a practice run for my 9-min window. I have successfully requested the recovery and I see the 'incoming recovery request'. I enter the new and old owner keys as required but I then come across an error: "RPCError: missing required other authority:Missing Authority".

This is what I'm doing: using @nutraj to recover @callysnapper

Hiveworld > nutraj > request account recovery > enter new (randomly generated) pub owner key > sign tx as nutraj with keychain
Hiveworld > callysnapper > Account recovery > Incoming recovery request > [enter keys as reqd] > RPCERROR

I've done this over and over again with different keys for recovery and tried it in different browsers (brave, ff, chrome). I also tried changing the nodes in Hiveworld. Each time ditto.

Logically, I know the recovery process works..right? I mean, accs must have been recovered in the past and the process tested! Therefore either

I am doing something wrong and/or am missing something
or there is an issue with the network/nodes/HF24-kinda thing

I have been trying this for the past few hours and will now leave it until the next day.

Do you have any thoughts or advice or suggestions?

Many thanks

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abitcoinskeptic (74) 4 years ago

Ive never tried Hive World before, I used Steem world, but I imagine it is similar.

To send request you need to enter old private owner key, after pw changed, and new public owner key.

As recoverer, please make sure you enterting the same new public owner key and the same old public owner key of the recoveree account.

After go back tonthe recoelvered account and enter new private owner key.

I'll take a look at Hive World if that doesn't work.

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krunkypuram (57) 4 years ago

Many thanks again for getting back to me, it is much appreciated.

I tried Hiveworld and I also tried https://hivetasks.com/account-recovery. Both continued to return RPC errors, just at different stages of the process.

However, thanks to @deathwing, I've now got another way in which has worked for recovering the above-mentioned test accounts and which should therefore work on the day of my 9-min window. This involved installing Python and broadcasting the transaction myself. Deathwing walked me through the process and we tested it together - it works! I'm utterly delighted and a bit nervous too. I'll breathe again normally after the 31st.

I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you so very much for your help with this 🙏

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mrchef222 (25) 4 years ago (edited)

Thanks for this! I am in a bit of a pickle. I fell for a stupid airdrop scam. Wasn't paying attention. Needless to say, my main account of over 3 years mrchef111 on Steemit and Hive was hacked and everything changed. I can't log in, and the hacker is powering down as we speak. Unfortunately, I never changed the recovery account. It is still on steem. Is all lost?

How do I contact the account steem to "request account recovery" since I can't do that myself. I just did step one on you guide and changed all the keys, but they aren't really changed until I get my account back, right? haha.

Super sick to my stomach right now. And they got ahold of my hive account too. I did set the account recovery to this alt account, but that was only 12 days ago so it hasn't taken effect yet. It has 18 more days before it is set. Any help with this predicament would be greatly appreciated.

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