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Current fees

UTC: 03:27 25 Dec 2024

These are the current fees charged by the @V4VApp when swapping Hive or HBD into or Lightning. All fees are converted from Sats to Hive/HBD using live rates from @coingecko's API

Notes:

  • Fees are only chanrged when converting Hive/HBD into sats or vice versa.
  • Depositing Sats and Paying With Sats (PayWithSats and KeepSats ) will not have significant fees (there is a 0.001 Hive fee for notifications)
  • Example: if sats are sent to the Lightning Address yourhivename@sats.v4v.app they will be held as KeepSats on v4v.app. You can use these sats to pay for a Lightning invoice without being charged a conversion fee.
  • Example: if sats are sent to yourhivename@v4v.app you will receive Hive after a fee is deducted. If they are sent to yourhivename@hbd.v4v.app you will receive HBD again after a fee.
  • Converting a sats balance held as KeepSats on v4v.app to Hive/HBD will carry a fee.
  • Rates are taken from publicly available rate api's as close to the transaction time as possible.

This services is offered as an experiemental service: if you have any issues using it the utmost efforts will be made to make you happy.

FeesSatsHiveHBD
Conversion fee (flat)50 sats0.141 Hive0.048 HBD
Conversion fee (percentage)1.70%
Minimum invoice500 sats1.41 Hive0.48 HBD
Maximum invoice150,000 sats422.51 Hive145.11 HBD

Rate Limits

Each Hive user is limited to the following amounts in the following periods:

HoursLimit satsHiveHBD
4 hours300,000845.0 Hive290.2 HBD
72 hours600,0001,690.0 Hive580.4 HBD
168 hours900,0002,535.1 Hive870.6 HBD

HBD to Sats Examples

The following amounts of HBD will give approximately this amount in sats:

HBDSats
1962
21,974
55,010
1010,071
2020,192
5050,554
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I have a recent invoice that seems to be stuck in pending in strike app but has not been paid in hbd. @brianoflondon @v4vapp. Im sure the invoice has timed out now.

If it is stuck in pending in Strike and you are trying to send it to my node, it would appear Strike wasn't able to send it. I don't have any record of it. 2023-04-27T21:01:11.079+00:00 was the last time I got something for you.

I suspect you have to ask Strike what's going on.

Thanks, I thought it might be the case but hard to know with lightning invoices being private. I havent had any issues with strike-v4v in the past so wasn't sure how to proceed! I'll check with them. Hopefully it will simply be returned to the wallet with no issues

Generally if a payment can't be made it is never taken out of the wallet. I've had to reboot my node a couple of times over the lsat day so its possible that it wasn't up exactly when you tried to send.

Generally unless something happens within 30s, nothing is happening.

I guess strike has a longer window. It stayed in pending for about 2 hours before returning to the wallet.

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Dear @brianoflondon , I have sent 51.246 HIVE to @v4vapp but looks like the transaction get an error while processing in lightning, could you please check or refund?
Thanks in advance

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Greetings,

I have earned some Satoshi in a game on telegram and I want to send 31 Satoshi from my lightning wallet on telegram to my sats.v4v.app account.

I entered my address like this oadissin@sats.v4v.app and after that scan the Qrcode, the first and second method was not accepted as valid LNURL... deposit address.

Is it possible to make this transaction with an LNURL... address generated by my account on V4VAPP?

As explain in the article

if sats are sent to the Lightning Address yourhivename@sats.v4v.app they will be held as KeepSats on v4v.app. You can use these sats to pay for a Lightning invoice without being charged a conversion fee.

This method was successful only after I deposited the sats from the game in the app "Wallet of Satoshi" then transfer the rest of fee deduction to oadissin@sats.v4v.app

Thank you for your help

I've used the gateway with humble success in the past, though it is not working for me today. As I don't know where to send you an issue report, for future fame I gonna do it here.

I want to add to my Fountain.fm wallet via an invoice of 1,000 Sats (picture 1). When pasted into V4V it perfectly reflects that. After I've chosen 3.35 Hive via Keychain (picture 2), the confirm dialog asks for 9.357 Hive (picture 3). And since my Hive wallet did not hold that ammount, the swap failed (picture 4), though clearly is meant to swap 2,967 Satoshi. I'd never asked for that. What's going on here? That is way more then the fee table shows.

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I gave it another try today, but it keeps me wonder why it asks for 9 instead of 3 Hive.

With more funds in my wallet I gave it another try recently. It was a success. Looks like it asks for a relatively big change. I don't know why. But I can say the service has no issue other then that.

Here is the prepared invoice (picture 1). The confirmation dialog again shows a lot more to be asked for (picture 2). The transaction went through (picture 3). And the difference came back as change (picture 4).

Is it also possible to transfer Lightning-BTCs into Hive?

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Not working here or I’m not doing it right…
I add the lightning address but is not moving forward…

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Lightning invoices are not really addresses: they're one use only and they expire. If the invoice is valid when you paste it into that box you should get an option to pay with Hive or HBD using Hive Keychain or Hivesigner.

It's easiest to do this if you are using the browser inside the Hive Keychain mobile app.

I see it now…
I figured it out…

Yes you did 👍

Yes I did…

It was an instant transfer

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I want to see how fast I can make the transfer first…

There is a store in my town that started to accept Bitcoin.
So I want to make a video on how fast is to pay with Hive or Bitcoin…
And the technology is just getting better…

More about the store here:

https://m.novinite.com/articles/213570/Bulgaria%3A+Grocery+Store+in+Veliko+Tarnovo+accepts+Bitcoin+as+Payment

Ok…

I’m using wallet of Satoshi for lighting network.
Get the key from there added to my web on my laptop and still nothing…

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On my phone worked quite better just need around 30 seconds to loads the buy price.

I’m trying to figure that out on my grandma’s phone @vasilka.popova45

And as I mention about the store that accepts Bitcoin now I can show in theory and practice that that fastest way to exchange/send value to a person and use it to buy goods and services….

namaste 🙏
Great work on the team!

I'm going to add a QR code scanner with the camera soon I hope and the Lightning to Hive system is almost ready.

I want to see if @ecency and @stoodkev and others with mobile wallets will build this functionality in. It's very simple really.

Yep I see ;)
It’s awesome 😎
Great work ;)

Hey @brianoflondon
Just checking to see how are you doing with the QR code scanner...?

Keep up the good work!
Namaste 🙏

Hey @brianoflondon
I just send a lightning payment via @v4vapp a while ago to this invoice: https://hiveblocks.com/tx/1ca5975ddc037848ef8c3308b2fa65229365a83d

Can you check for me if it is clear or I can receive the outvoice back...

OK I started up the development server (I'm still not sure how your transaction was sent there but I have suspicion I left a link in one of my old posts) and your transaction was processed and the lightning invoice was paid exactly as it should be.

Hopefully I've now turned off that Development server to stop anyone else using it.

https://hive.ausbit.dev/tx/b40c0eeb90b531c08771ea65ce2e13b284d119d3

That's interesting I can see it was sent to @hivehydra which is my development system.

That's not responding right now automatically (because it shouldn't). I'm kinda curious how that happened. Is it possible you used a strange old link to my dev.lnd.v4v.app site?

I'll fix with a refund later, I can't get to my systems right now.

@brianoflondon
I don't like to lie to you...
But I think I used a good link from the post via @v4vapp

Thanks for your time...
I hope you can find where the issue come thru...

Namaste 🙏

Hola, hice una operación hace más de media hora y a diferencia de otras ocasiones no me ha llegado 🙁, las otras veces era casi de inmediato, es normas que pueda demorar?

I'm looking for this right now to figure out what is going on. I'll sort it out.

Ok! thank you for your help me so quickly! 😍

OK thank you for letting me know so quickly! Exactly at the moment you sent that payment something went wrong on my end. I've replayed and your invoice has been paid and your change returned.

Each little thing like this gives me a chance to figure out ways to make the system more resilient against network problems like this.

OK!!!! thanks to you!🤗🤞


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Sorry if this question is botty, but where can I download the app, please?

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Correct me if I am wrong. But not a downloadable app per se? More like... click the link below:

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👉https://v4v.app/👈

Thanks for the info.

When I have a bee in my bonnet I tend to go off and dig around until I figure stuff out. So I did! A bit more anyway :)

I thought it was more web 3 to "just do it" anyway :D We're supposed to be learning self-sufficiency again and all. It was a bit lazy of me to even ask actually. Just shows you how bad it's become...

But thanks for the time. Appreciate it. 🌱

@nickydee,

Oh... of course! It was a "right place, at the right time" scenario you see! I saw the information on Twitter... Followed over here (You know... the blockchain lol)... and saw your question! It's what happens when you are all over the place like I am. I didn't really know about the V4V mind you... but after a little research and lurking searching, I saw that link in @brianoflondon's main account cover thingus!


I thought it was more web 3 to "just do it" anyway :D We're supposed to be learning self-sufficiency again and all. It was a bit lazy of me to even ask actually. Just shows you how bad it's become...


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!LUV

What a marvelous brain you have. I'm glad you were there, here and everywhere and found me.

Hello :)

Sorry I didn't see this until now! There isn't an app, just a web-app so you just use the web page.

I'm hoping that Hive Keychain and Ecency will build this functionality into their apps.

There's really no advantage to having an app in the app stores and plenty of downsides: right now I don't need Apple or Google's permission to do anything.

Best way forward.

Thanks for the time. I know how valuable it is :) I did dig around and I figured a bit more of it out. Still learning the financial stuff (and tend to avoid it) so...

it's actually all simpler than it seems at first glance. I want to have a go with the app and get to know better. And I will do.

Game changer from my only basic understanding. 👍 Very clever!

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    I just did a conversion for 630 HIVE to SATs and it is not showing up in the history or balance on v4v.app.

    I can see an error happened, I will fix it asap.

    Fixed. Thanks!

    Strange failure, I'll have to look into that later but at least I have a reliable way to kick it to try again.

    It should have been for right at ~149,XXX SATs, but the HIVE was deducted and no SATs deposited.