The more shinny of the two is an Italian coin made of aluminum most likely and the other Irish coin is copper/nickel. Neat coins. Let me find them for you on Numista and that site will give you more details...

Irish Coin -- https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5188.html
Italian Coin -- https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2396.html

I use Numista.com a lot for researching unknown stuff. Hard to filter the search results sometimes, but if nothing else fun to research.