Hive-naija Engagement #19 - "Hive witnesses"

in Speak Peace3 years ago (edited)

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"One of the marvelous things about community is that it enables us to welcome and help people in a way we couldn’t as individuals.."
•Jean Vanier



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Beautiful friday to you my people.

How are you all doing today? Last week, I wasn't available. However, the engagement chat continued thanks to @starstrings01. He brought a very interesting discussion about the riot in Abuja stadium.

Thank you all for sharing your lovely opinions.

If you missed last week engagement post, feel free to back track it here Hive-Naija Engagement #18


Some months ago, I thought,I shared and I asked "Why don't we Chat on hive every Weekend?"

And you all said...

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Well,we won't be the first as there are some weekend engagements trends already on Hive! But this would be THE NIGERIAN VERSION!


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So Shall We ?

I will drop a topic every friday(Today's topic is below), share your thoughts on the matter,reply someone else opinion, interrogate the opinion if you like. Keep the discussion on. If you don't have anything to say about the topic. Just reply someone else's comment.

Do all these in the comment section, as that it where it all goes down.

There are no further rules, please banter as you like,speak any Nigerian language (Igbo,yoruba, pidgin,efik), anything, as long as someone else can understand.

However, Please don't take it to the extreme

This week's engagement starts Immediately you see this post and ends on Sunday 11:59pm.


Prizes for this week

Thanks to the @starstrings01, @crossculture and @elcomentador. They helped curate some comments again last week!


Prizes are distributed to the winners after considering their interactions and also their contributions to the topic. This week prizes ;


1st prize - 2HBD + 10 POB A very good upvote in a selected post of yours in the week!

2nd Prize - 2HBD + + 20 VYB + 10 POB

3rd Prize - 1HBD + 10 POB

4th Prize - 1HBD + 10 POB

5th prize - 1HBD + 20 VYB

Prizes courtesy of:

@Samostically - 4HBD , 40POB, 40VYB
@ksam - 1HBD
@readthisplease - 2HBD
@starstrings01 - Upvote & Curation.

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Topic Of Discussion - "Hive Witnesses"

Hive as we all know has alot of decentralized applications and front ends. There are people that run these things. They help to keep hive going. These people are known as Hive Witnesses.

Are they fixed?

You can think of them as presidents. You need to vote them so they can perform. we have a Top 100
with the Top 20 Witnesses being able to change things provided majority of them agree via a voting process. You can vote for 30 witnesses.

One of the things that puzzled me when i returned to hive was what a witness is. I believe many newbies are unaware too. I'd like us to talk about it this weekend. Let's share our thoughts on "Hive Witnesses" how do you choose your Witnesses? Did you even know you can vote?
Let's us know who you voted for and why?

Let me start.

I had voted 29 witnesses till this week when @eddiespino & @grisvisa announced that @aliento could be voted as a witness. Personally, I can actually vouch for the @aliento project. They help encourage many on the Blockchain. Most times, our engagement here is supported by them. I believe with alot of votes they can perform more great activities on the Blockchain.

Witness Announcement - Aliento Un Nuevo Testigo en Hive

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Feel free to ask more questions relating to the topic in the comment section.


Let the discussion begin....

For this week,

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@deraaa , @B0s , @merit.ahama , @peaq , @monioluwa , @brightdavid, @stevenson7 , @obrisgold1 , @jaydr @mayorkeys , @wolfofnostreet @readthisplease @young-boss-karin, @tukem1 @k-banti, @iskafan , @chosenfingers @onwugbenuvictor , @monica-ene @heskay @etiboy56 @doziekash , @chincoculbert , @funshee @omosefe @ozohu @attentionneeded @popmanj @estherscott @vickoly @gloriaolar @pianokills @hepziba @tblings-art @anissignature @ijohnsen @manuel6 @khaleesii @kenechukwu97 @abidemiademok21 @otshotz @blezyn @uzuka @mrenglish @bbjmed @uddydan @reineesmay @b0s @prechidi @joydukeson @benii @henryce @nkemakonam89

You gave me permission to tag you but you can always tell me to stop anytime!

If you are new, and you want me to tag you on the engagement posts, please indicate in the comment section.

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Well, witnesses are people who run a computer or node that keeps the blockchain going, they pretty much own "powerful" computers that act as a server to hive which makes it function properly.

We were taught a lot about them in the terminal discord but anyway, I won't come here bragging that I fully grasp everything about it.

I have voted for a few witnesses, not even up to 10, but I trust aliento so I will be voting for them as a witness, they totally deserve it.

I feel like witnesses are a side of hive that most people are no insight on because it isn't spoken enough about.

Yes,it's kind of hidden. Hard to discover.

Exactly and it is an essential part of hive so I don't understand why.

I wonder why it's Hidden 🤔

I feel like witnesses are a side of hive that most people are no insight on because it isn't spoken enough about

Yeah you are right here
Here is my first time hearing about it.

It is really crazy.

She said they have "powerful computers" 🤣🤣

How powerful are they? What determines a powerful system? 🥺

Leave me ojare, am I the creator

Hahaha 😂😂😂

I feel like witnesses are a side of hive that most people are no insight on because it isn't spoken enough about.

Yes, many do not know this..cos even those tho bring people to do chain do not...so it looks like a chain reaction. You get?

Omo this topic sha, I don't know how this hive witness
I don't know i can even choose them
And I don't know i can vote. The only thing i know is that @aliento supports in the newbie intiative.
Maybe they should teach us in our channel so we would know how it works

Hello! You can vote through the different Hive frontends, most of them have a page. You need your active key to vote though. Here are some examples:

Thank you
Please is there any benefits or advantage of voting?
I really want to understand how it works and why we vote

The benefit is for the community. The witnesses play a crucial role as you can see in this screenshot from https://peakd.com/me/witnesses.

If you haven't you I invite you to read the white paper, it can give you a general overview of all things Hive.

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Thank you dear friend
We learn everyday and a glad you are here to teach me

Is there any way i can make my post more public for people to see it and get more upvote legally?

There are many ways, but the best one is to be active with good content, engage and bring value to Hive.

Okay thank you
Does having a witness also help those o voted for check my post and upvote?

We are in the same shoe... Well if they teach you this one in your newbies class then you're lucky because we didn't learn this part.

True o
We still have a long way to go on hive, there is more to hive than posting

Ha 😳, I hope we get to learn them all 🥺

Yes with time we will
We just need time

There is so much more.

Hahahaahaha. I added the aliento post link now.

Oh thank you. I'll check it out.

Omo, I also had to learn about it when a question was asked in the terminal discord, it was like a foreign topic.

Oya teach us nau.... What did you learn in the terminal about it?

Witnesses are people who run servers or nodes, these servers keep hive running properly.

Does that mean if they stop running the nodes, everything comes crumbling down? 😳

I have added a link in the post. Please check it out.

Okay thank you dear friend
I will check it out

Okay went through it and I think I have a little idea now and been able to cast my vote.

Pretty understandable to be honest, a lot of us have been here for longer and still have no idea.

I think that's why they brought us this topic after this engagement we will be have knowledge about how it works

And it worked

I saw a post recently about witnesses and why every hive members should at least make a vote, I just click the link via peaks front end and looked for familiar names and clicked vote.

I do not completely understand their roles on hive or how it impacts us..

Surprised they even have projects That we should look out for...hmmm interesting

Looking forward to more comments that would give me proper understanding of the whole witness concept

Thanks @samostically For this weeks gist, came at the right time.

Witnesses run nodes which make up hive's server. Then when they notice an area that needs improvement, or they have an idea, they bring forth proposals. If a proposal has a certain amount of votes the funds to implement the proposal are released from the decentralized hive fund.

The funds part, that's the one I always thought about. Only, I used to think they use the funds as some of sort of payment to work on the projects.

I mean the way angel investors or venture capitalist put their money into startups that shows potentials.

I think they also get some hive from there too.

For their personal use or?

They get some for running the node, and some to implement proposals.

It's okay. Thanks for explaining. 💞💞

Funny enough as I was writing this, a witness just asked me to vote for his proposal. I checked his page and read his proposal here.

This is not a guide, but it gives a little idea of what witnesses do.

Is the witness name howo? Cos I saw his message on my wallet right before I got the notification for this post.

I was scrolling through his blog when I got the notification here.

Slow down.biko.. Whats nodes..i have been seeing this works everywhere

Oh, how do I explain it now. Let me just say where the block chain data is stored.

You have a great understanding.

Thank you.

She voted for familiar names... Hehehehe.. at least you are better than most of us newbies, you took more steps than we did.

Hahaha.. so have you voted completely?

Hehehehe...still getting the propose understanding first...seems our hive lives are in the hands of these witnesses... Need to vote with caution now

In the simplest way to understand, witnesses keep hive running, without them and their servers, there will be no hive in a sense.

Omoor, I would have missed this whole episode.. I guess I might need to fine oga @samostically for not tagging me in..😞

Same thing here, I was always confused by what hive witness mean. Even some oldies that I asked from didn't give me an understandable answer. It was until recently when psyberx posted that they've now got a witness - psyberx.witness - and wanted people to vote for them. I read the post and asked the question of what a witness was really and they gave a simpler answer.

Witnesses protect the blockchain and keep it going..

So, long story short, I voted for psyberx.witness and enginewitty cos the former recommended the latter. That makes two witnesses I have voted in my entire Hive life.

You have 28 witnesses left.... I can recommend ALIENTO, LeoFinance, threespeak and blocktrades.

Sorry for not tagging you... I keep missing the right list

Alright then, I will definitely vote them. Thanks for the recommendation.

I know a little about witnesses. They're basically users like me and you, but have some level of authority on the Blockchain by virtue of there contributions and there HP. They do a lot of work and the own most Dapps on the Blockchain.

Witnesses on Hive are the key decision makers and they usually have a lot of following!

If you notice on some automated comments on your posts, witnesses can be found begging for votes.

But why the push!

Witnesses are the ones who agrees on what should and should not be done on the Blockchain. So, the more votes they earn, the more authority they earn.

I've voted few witnesses such as the witnesses behind Ecency and PeakD projects and fee others.

My drive towards voting for them is based on the fact that they are impacting on my Hive experience. I also try to read their descriptions and follow their external links to know more about a witness before voting.

You've raised a nice subject here, and this awareness is worth it.

Oh wow. This means I had been wrong all along. I had always thought the reason they needed the votes was so they can be paid in HBD, that way, they can focus on building the Dapps, instead trying to create posts, comments, and other community activities to earn. I had no idea they already had the earnings, they only wanted the power and authority to do what they knew best.

Yea. That's true!

Though, I've only been here for quite a few time! So, I may not be 100% correct! But I'm confident I'm not 90% wrong.

I'll share a resource as soon as I'm able to find something informative on it.

And maybe, through further readings, I could gain a clearer understanding.

Wait, are you saying my thoughts are correct in a way too? 🥺

It will be great if you found the resource and share them. Thanks I'm advance

You can't be faulted so much! So, it's plausible!

Hehehe.... He blows big grammar too... Lol.

Which one be plausible like this again?🤣

@Iskafan and @temibot.

Lol. Sometimes we dey speak English we no know.

Hehehe.... He blows big grammar too... Lol.

This line is gold.


It seems I'm uninvited for the hangouts oh! E be like say if them no mention you for the post, your contributions will not be acknowledged by the hangout organizer.

My people, na so?

Lol. You see?? Even @temibot don see say you dey blow grammar 😂😂😂

Which hangout again oooo..... I wan follow chop meat, fish, and drinks 🥺

Abeg who organized hangout and I no sabi...? Pls tag me in, its been a while I ate party food oo
All this one wey I dey see for foodic community no be food kankan.😂

This is really helpful
You've just gave insight about it.
Thank you
Think I'm getting clearer picture of how it works.

You're welcome bro. If I'm able to find a good resource on it. I'll be quick to share ASAP

Very well then
Thank you

Oh wow!

Now, it's all beginning to make some sense to me. I didn't understand Jack about this before now. Thank you for the insight.

You're welcome dear!

I don't think it's based on HP though because I have seen a few who didn't have all that, it is simply based on the server or node they run.

Alright. Thanks for clarifying!

You are welcome.

This question is timely because I just saw a notification on my wallet and an account is asking for my vote. I am scrolling his blog trying to make sense of why a witness vote is important

I know I have been voting or updating my witness vote whenever hivebuzz asks for it. Sincerely, I don't know what it's about and why we should vote

I just keep voting hivebuzz every time he asks because he helps me keep track of the activities on my account. Like number of posts I created, comments I receive and give, upvotes, power up, badges, etc.

I don't know if I have voted anyone else after from the ones hivebuzz recommends. I have no idea how to check either. Gosh...there is a lot of things on Hive 🤦

I'll see what others have to say.

Edit: I remember something. I have this account on my followers list who constantly posts and asks us to update our witness votes. He edits the posts every time he finds new facts. He makes it even confusing for me because I can't understand why he is asking us to remove our voted from certain witness.

Sure was not taught this during our newbie orientation...lol
I'm clueless here but then I'm here to learn
So yes let get to it.

I said the same thing oooo.... If they teach this new set, they are truly lucky 🥺

Lol..abi o

At least you followed a good course. You had a cogent reason for voting for Hive buzz.

Voting for witnesses is a democratic process and I don't think it's proper for someone to detect for you who or who not to vote for.

You just have to do your due deligence and make the decision that's best for you.

Yes, voting for hivebuzz every time he asks was as a result of the reasons I stated above.

Well, with this topic for today, I guess, I'll get a footing through people's comments to step on for my due diligence. Thanks.

You can't go wrong trying to learn from the intelligent Hivers all over the place. Not to worry, soon. I believe someone is typing a comprehensive intelligent feedback on this!

And you are one of the people typing the comprehensive intelligent feedback because I have seen your contribution to the topic a few seconds ago. Thanks for throwing light on this topic for us.

Lol. Thanks.

Though, I'm just a newbie. I stand to be corrected.

I am a newbie too, so, I am impressed you know this much... Keep it up. 💞

Very well, voting a witness should be an independent decision. People could nominate those you could vote for, but it is your own to decipher who you want to vote for..

I haven't really gotten any notification to vote any witness but i know hivebuss always give me update on how far i have gone with my posts and comments

Hivebuzz is our buddy. This morning I woke up to a notification about being a buzzy bee.... Lol

At the beginning of the month I got the badge for publishing for 31 days without fail in the month of March.

Hivebuzz is helping us stay focused and committed. And I love him for that. ☺️

Yes true i also got that badge because i post everyday

Oh wow. Congratulations to you, buddy. Let's get that badge again, this week, and this month. 💪💪

Yes dear friend
We could challenge ourselves to go better the only problem i have sometimes is low Resource credit 😢

Really, hivebuzz is really doing a lot. Especially, the way they help users accountable on the chain.. They do the huge job of getting the analytics of our activities apart from hive stats..

I love how you said, he helps us stay accountable..... Accountability is an important part of every organization. And I am glad hivebuzz helps Hive achieve that.

Yes, accountability even is deeper than we may think sef...if loyalty is bonded with accountability ehn, one partner can sense what may be wrong in the other...well, this is a story for another day sha.😁

This is probably a double comment.... Sorry about your network 🥺

Oh...okay thanks

I'm not really sure of all the specifics of how witnesses work, but what I know is that the witnesses run various nodes that make up hive's server. Then whenever there is an improvement that has to be made they create proposals which we vote for . Then whenever a certain number of votes is reached the funds to implement are released from the decentralized hive fund.

Also they get rewarded in hive for running the witness nodes.

Seems I need to do some more research on what hive witnesses are?

Oh yes, and I've voted for a couple witnesses who I happen to come across their proposal.

!1UP

This is an updated knowledge for me. Thanks for sharing.

You are welcome

You are actually right because this is the same knowledge I have about witnesses.

Thanks for validating my statement. Not even sure where I saw it.

The terminal I suppose.

Not certain, but that's most likely where I saw it. They are very helpful with block chain info

They truly are, I think that's where I learnt a lot about hive.

Me too. Other than newbies initiative I learnt most of what I know from there.

Its all making sense to now...

Glad I could help you understand

But what again are these nodes really? Are they the computers used to run the chain?

They are computers that store block chain data, I think.

I honestly don't even know how it works. I know I approved a few witnesses, but I just randomly selected then. I had zero preference at the time, still do, because I don't even understand it yet.

I'll be in the comments, hoping to find answers.

Just read through my comments, someone explained better

Oh, I'll get right to it. Thank you.

I hope you find the answers you're looking for.

I certainly will. Thank you.

You are welcome

You know, I view your random selection like... minimini mani mo..🤣

😁😅

I votes for witnesses that I can attest to their sincerity and contribution on the chain, not the ones I'm told about or the most popular ones. I vote for the ones who reckons with the people at the grassroot. Witness is about service to the chain, we have to make the choices and not let ourselves be taken by their overtures m

Okay think i'm getting a clearer picture of how this works.

How do you guage their contribution and sincerity?

Well, @aliento does. Among many other things, they have been of great support to the Newbies initiative and many other quality contents on Hive.

This is true, I have dew witnesses I have voted for because I wouldn't just want to be throwing votes around.

Well, I have some that I voted for. I think I like their contribution towards Hive.

I think I'll be checking out for that.

Very well, I think the ones that can be identified with helping newbies are good ones...

What a nice topic in discussion @samostically. I have made several votes for witnesses blindly. But with this, I believe a more clear view must be taken before giving out votes.

And also, kindly tag me. I would ensure I participate this weekend and others to come.

Great work and initiative 👍.

It's already this weekend..... We are in that weekend already oooo.... What is your calendar saying... Lol 😂😂

Yeah, it started technically 2hrs ago from here 😊😉.

Oh, you have a different time zone. My bad! Do your thing. Cheers. 😊

Its alright, thanks anyway @iskafan for the notification and awareness 🤝🙏.

My pleasure boss. ❤️

Same.thought I had when I saw the notification of this post...ahh what a week

Lol. This week is faaaassssttttt 😅😅

Okay this is my first time hearing about hive witnesses.
I will just read through the comment to understand better.

I'll be reading the comments alongside you..... Hehehe

Seriously!!!

I'll be joining you and @iskafan to find answers in the comments too🙃

Very well then that makes three of us.

Hahaha .... We are all here to learn. 🥰

Absolutely🙃

Hmmmm, this topic wear gele for me to🤔🤔, I don't know anything about the witness and I would love to know.

Hahaha.... Almost all of us are here to learn today oo 😂

Yeah sure, indeed 💯.

Glad you agree.

Yesooo 🤩🤩🤩

Learning continues ..

Yes ooo.... It never ends 🥰

Lol, no be small gele

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When I saw this post I must laughed because I discovered the witness thing just two days ago. I saw a proposal and I voted. I did not completely understand it but I just voted sha.

Lol I can relate....if you read through the comment you should be able to get more understanding how it works

And she acted without understanding.... Lol 😂😂

Hahahahha so if it was against your account na so you for vote. I also do things here when am asked to sha, i against afford to lose my account...hahaha
But now we understand

Really? I did just know bout it really a few days ago too..

Sincerely i didnt know what this witness go was all about till i read the first comment on this post.
But even without knowing what it's all about i did vote for a lot of witness 2 months ago, this are the people that i think are popular and brings more fun, help also to the betterment of the entire blockchain.

  • I can remember i voted a few like @OCD, @hivebuzz i think i voted @aliento as well then and lots more. That's about 30 of them.

Oh you already voted for 30 people.... Nice... You've come a long way.

About 30 already? You have done a lot, really..😂

Oh wow,
There's so much to learn..

Well, witnesses are people who run a computer or node that keeps the blockchain going, they pretty much own "powerful" computers that act as a server to hive which makes it function properly.

I had to read this over and over again before I could grasp.

Still don't understand much sha
Hope to gain more clarity as I read more comments.

Just read through some comments, there was some explanation

They are like those handling the supercomputers using to run the Hive blockchain. If you know how bitcoin is being mined and run on the blockchain, that is like how witness works..

Not quite long I joined hive blockchain, so I'm dam clueless about this vote for witness stuff on hive, the more I try to read about it on my own, the more I get confused, so I let it go.

I wish I knew much about them and how to vote them.

Sha I think this engagement this week will go a long way for me in the enlightenment

Yes it will
@eddiespino can help you explain better

Okk
Thanks very for the recommendation

I hope you learn all that you can as you read through.

Yea, I've tried as much post
I can tell there is be an added advantage

Really good. Let's keep the community active.