Most areas around the world are supplied food through small holdings. Many places on earth cannot grow just vegetables and grain to feed their population. Especially the northern countries and arid countries. It is easy to be a vegetarian if grocery stores are easily acccessible and one has the funds to pay for suppliments needed, there is no way to get heme (digestable Iron) from plants or vitiman Bs...Strict vegans need supplements or they become sick. Vegetarians can eat eggs and other animal products depending on the diet they follow. not getting enough heme, (anemia) for children and women is dangerous, it stunts growth and causes painful menstrual cycles, pregnancy issues, and breast feeding. We cannot absorb plant based iron, it is a fact...
Also if the world stopped eating domestic animals we would lose our hardy heritage livestock put the world in danger of famine if our corporate food grids fail...they are fragile because of their dependency on our energy grids and subject to infectious diseases from the use monoculture, chemicals, and crowding.
anyway, as you said there are far worse things we can do....lying, stealing, greed, murder, consuming more than we need....
Okay so if there is places on earth that cant grow veggies for humans where are the animals getting their food from? like cows who need more food and water than humans, Especially the factory farmed animals which depend on factory farmed vegetables. Because of the monotony of modern diets people have forgotten the abundance of diversity of plant food that grows in all environments, northern and arid.
Cows fill a symbiotic relationship with plants and dirt microbime, as do all grazing animals. They do not eat or take water from other animals and plants. They actually help the enviornment retain moisture through fertlizing the soil , which promotes healthy microbiome that feeds plants, as they graze as all grazing animals do. Ruminits should not be eating grain, it will actually kill them if that's all they eat...Plants are an important part of the human diet. However many cultures that live in deserts and northern climes cannot eat just grass or scrub but animals can. That is why their diet is primarly meat like the Masai and Inuit people...We have a symbiotic relationship with the animals and plants we have domesticated...you have a simplistic view of a world that never existed and you are reacting to a toxic environment I do not want to be apart of just like you.
Thank you for your passionate heartfelt response @jaredcordon, however this post wasn't actually about eating meat. Is about blind reactions to what we do not like or do like ....
I don't agree that we can't absorb plant based iron. My entire family has been vegetarian since 1970's (although I eat meat now) and we never had a problem with iron absorption as Mum always made sure we ate the right foods. i will never forget being fed raw cabbage and capsicum as we were waiting for tea when we were hungry kids, never knowing the reason she did it was so that we were getting enough vitamin C to absorb the plant based iron we did get. However, I acknowledge that in other countries this might be trickier as of course we had access to supplements if we need them, not that we ever did.
Edit, I found my reseearch papers and I will write up an article. I just found out over 2 billion people are iron deficient, a study done by WHO....
Your Mom was right and I was was wrong about iron...nonheme iron is difficult to absorb and I will write a paper on this...
Men don't need that much iron so for you and me, a post menopausal woman getting enough iron is not a big deal!
Ill get the data for you, And also there has never been a pure vegan society...and vitamin c is needed in greater quantities if eating a high carb diet, your Mom was spot on with that...
But there are worse things than disagreeing about diet regarding the articles topic like hating meat eaters or vegans just because of ideology...like telling meat eaters or hunters they are going to Buddhist hell....lololol
I totally agree that ideology sucks. We never shoved our choices down peoples throats. My parents did it for health reasons as they were worried about preservatives and hormones in processed meat. After a while they just felt better and would never go back. My Mum was smart enough to research and do it properly. And that was the 70s, before online research was possible! Im glad you discovered some new information to adjust your thinking. Love these steemit conversations!!! And thanks again for this fabulous Steemit article. I wpuld resteem but i cant handle the picture of a bbq on my feed 🤗🤗❤❤
I posted meat pictures to see if I could catch any vegans or vegetarians ....it was bait....thank you for your lovely discussion with me and I love your Mum!
I enjoyed it too! Yeah Im proud of Mums intelligence and resourcefulness.. I learnt alot about nutrition from her.
I found 3 studies related to gut bacteria microbiome, iron deficiency with pregnant women , and autism...this is going to be a great paper because of you @riverflows and your awesome MOM <3
Nice article, and yeah some meat consumption might have worked 1000´s of years ago, since it did NOT directly kill humans and plants.
Today thou, I must say, it does and the Buddha would turn to veganism looooooog ago, according to the philosophy you describe.
I am a vegan since 5 years, an engineer in biochemistry and I´ve never eaten any supplements for vitamin B or iron, there are no reason what so ever.
Having non heme iron in vegan, antioxidant rich sources, enables 20% uptake , standard uptake from heme iron with no extra vitamins e.g stake, sauce potatos, peas, you will take up 10% of the heme iron... Guess which is more healthy?? doh..
The numbers vary greatly with the iron level in the body off course.
The combo of sugar + fat, makes it impossible for humans to get rid of the fat since ketosis is extremly important and eating sugar for breakfast
stops it, and meat / fat intake over during the day is never burnt off, is a death senescent!
The biggest problem might still be protein diseases which is growing more then anything, and is my arena of profession.
Meat wont work in 2018, we lose 90% of the energy to heat, while 50% of humanity is suffers malnutrition...do the maths!
The Buddha wished love to all sentient beings before all else, if you don´t see this conflicting with meat consumption, after the numbers i just gave you, I fear nothing will change or view on global state of nutrition :((
Why produce 90% heat instead of food? Ah rite the corporate agenda, big money, export meat to rich zones FROM the poor, leaving the poor with no soils or forests.
The beef produced in The Amazonas is not eaten by the starving population close by NONO, it is exported to fat / obese, ignorant Americans who gladly pays premium to DIE faster and take the planet with them :)
Peace
You can read my post regarding diet and poverty here
https://steemit.com/health/@reddust/i-didn-t-know-this
Humanity is suffering from malnutrition because of corruption in their governments....corruption causes famine, war, disease, and poverty.
Buddha was not a vegan or a vegetarian he ate what was given to him when he went on his alms rounds...you need to read my post and stop reacting to titles and pictures.
I love your passion but your blind reaction is kind of boring and has nothing to do with my article, which has nothing to do with meat...it has to do with reacting to what we like and don't like...
You are NOT what you eat @clausewitz <3
Peace
:) This is a planed and long time coming project!
It is easy to blame others and point fingers, but all non vegans are as guilty, not the government or anyone else, I pray for awakening, as the Buddha would say, I guess hehe
I find it very useful to point out such a thing, The Buddha based his view on eating animals on non suffering...He would be vegan in 2018, I know plenty of Buddhist agreeing, what do you think about it?
I find it a useful and strong argument pointing to that times have changed...
I have never mentioned you, your article or anything it states... I adress all articles promoting meat in this post, and yes, ONE article about ---> THE <---- Buddha, since i Love both topics and feel obligated to do so.
Kinda shocking that anyone would feel targeted, but I am glad you actually read this, thank you <3
Exactly we are NOT what we eat, all the meat consumption in the world will NEVER make us carnivores, only sick and dying, like the american population.
But i might confuse myself or you, since i am not sure if you´r referring to this comment or the post i made today xD
Peace & veganism to humanity
Buddha ate what was put in his begging bowl, that is how we need to live our life
This article has nothing to do with vegans or vegetarians, it has to do with blindly reacting to what we do or do not like.I am not blaming or pointing figures, I am speaking from experience and history. Famine and disease comes from war, corrupt governments, monarchy, corporations.
Buddha was not a vegan, he and his sangha dependend on the villiage people to support them. The people gave what they could and many times that was meat...
This is my blog so be kind and let people own their views, just like I am letting you own yours.No fingers?
This is your take on The Buddhas view on suffering animals as result of your eating? Red herring distraction at its best :) If you aviod to answering what you think about buddhas opinion on eating meat in 2018.
Thanks! Look forward to reading it!