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RE: HF21 (and 22) are done, how do you feel?

in #hardfork5 years ago (edited)

I am seeing a few people saying it is not worth posting or commenting now, but even small accounts can still earn something. We need to wait and see how things are when it's settled down a bit.

A few people who bought votes on low quality posts have been complaining, but we've seen rage quitting before. I'm happy to see the community downvoting over-valued posts, but maybe this should happen to some of the posts by witnesses and projects too. Why should their posts be worth $100+? Some of them are still feeding the bid bots.

I'm not sure we want trending to be all posts about Steem. That has little appeal for most new visitors.

I am using my downvotes on anything that seems excessive, but I may avoid those who could do me real damage by retaliation. Big accounts are still self-voting and that can look greedy. They can vote for others and still do well from curation.

I'm also rethinking my voting strategy. I like to reward commenters, but a meaningful vote takes more vp now. I may vote up their posts instead with maybe a token vote on the comment.

New Steem is different. Let's see if it can be better.

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I agree about the Steem projects and trending. Unfortunately, it is hard to avoid. People want to let people know when something new is available, and trending is best for that, but on the other hand, we don't want trending full of Steem meta.

I think communities will help a lot in that regard, you can subscribe to a Steem meta community to know what is going on without having trending flooded. We are a ways off from that and we still don't really know how communities will work so there is no guarantee there either.

I get it. And I completely agree.

We have a big problem, with bid bots.. Especially, the one like OCD with curators which are supposed to be watching on abuse.
Take for example this post:

https://steemit.com/steem/@svemirac/hf22-is-ready-to-go

Do you think this post worth $48.04 ?

In my opinion that post wasn't even supposed to be boosted with bid bots. But no one downvoted it a part @justineh and me.

On paper this HF has been very well thought out but will come up against the human greediness.

But no one downvoted it a part @justineh and me

I just did. I hadn't seen it before. You can't really expect everyone to see everything downvote everything. The system won't be perfect but it can still be a lot better the more people do their part. Even just you and @justineh downvoting it is better than nothing.

I haven’t done any downvoting yet, still understanding the process.

But who is the final arbiter of quality content?
Let us wait for the entire community to be accustomed to this new changes.

Some can make educational campaigns about “quality” content. Post it. (The irony will be, that post will then get downvoted I’m sure)

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But who is the final arbiter of quality content

You are.

Me, the community.

I wrote a post about it and I'm sure that some big fish have read it. Any results so far. Indeed I am being mocked.
And you know the one thing I took away from all that? The same rules don't apply for everyone!
In any case, Thanks for showing your concern.

It seems cynical to post about the hardfork whilst doing what it is supposed to deter! I don't think any post on Steem is really worth $50 given the size of the audience. It is almost impossible to make that much without bots unless a whale or two are your friends.

Actually, it is fun, to look through trending and look out for targets, that fit into your criterias, low retaliation chance, lot's of bibots, already downvoted by steem whales.

But of course, all this can backfire at some point.

I think it is the start of an improvement in Steem. Those who had been buying votes before will have to move away from that as they will just lose more money. Other schemes will spring up, but we have power to affect them. The big accounts can deal with those who retaliate.

I’m earning almost nothing with my 5,000 Steem power. Luckily I am making more on my Videos these days.

I have the @tenkminnows voting on a load of people with about 6k SP delegated and that makes around 3 Steem per day just from curation. It will be a minnow in a few months. We need to rethink our voting strategy if we are going for optimal rewards, but I do not do that with my main account.

Yeah... as far as earning any money here on Steemit, I guess I will experiment a bit with my upvotes .... trying to only Upvote the very best Original content and be happy making a few pennies each day. I am earning more over on Publish0X these days with my posts....https://www.publish0x.com/?a=BDbDqjxdl2

I don't have time to start playing with another site. I have built up something with Steem and am happy to keep going with that.

That’s a good idea. I am probably too diversified.

saying it is not worth posting or commenting now

They're saying that in posts and comments? /facepalm