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RE: A Discussion About Guns

in #guns7 years ago

No, this is where you're mistaken. The primary purpose of firearms never was or is to make citizens equal with government forces, you're deluding yourself by thinking so. Guns are made to destroy things, humans being included. I could care less If legislation passes about gun control in America. You yankees will keep going on killing each other. You are one of the most divided nations in the world, the current state of your politics just further proves this. This left vs right nonsense becomes more laughable by the day. You would rather nothing getting accomplished than see the other side have success. A sad state of affairs

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yet with all our terrible problems, people from all over the world still want to come here. now picture, if you will a pretty young lady, 5'5", 120 pounds or so walking along the street. now picture, hell, lets say a guy my size, 5'10", 180 pounds. and this brute intends to rape her. its late, deserted area. what are her chances of stopping him? depends, in some place like England? she's gonna die probably. here? depends on the laws where she is. in my state? dude is gonna catch a couple to the chest

The media plays a large part in that. Personally, I ave been to america over 50 times and I would NEVER live there. Why on earth do people have to come up with these outlandish situations? Is there a chance that a young woman walking down the street is going to be raped in America? Is this the reality you live in? This tells me everything I need to know. Most incarcerated nation for a reason. A powerhouse on the verge of imploding. More worried about being shot by your neighbour than Kim Jong eun launching a missile at you. America needs to get it s shit together and not addressing the gun problem is just another reason that its on the demise

now see, you claim to want a discussion about guns, and then instead start bashing your betters. since Im certain you dont actually live in middle earth,and you referred to Americans as yanks, I'm going to assume you're a limey.
therefore, you live in a country where you have been forced to abdicate your defense toyour Masters, but still live in the most violent country in europe. I guess if you've been raised licking boots, you just get used to the taste, and being totally unable to defend your life and family,you just hope the Master keeps them safe,and allows you to continue bei g a good little subject. in your last response, you attempted to mock our political situation. however, lets face reality. the only reason you know about it, is because you live in a second rate country. hell, I dont know who runs the show in your country, whether you have a pope,or a duke,or whatever,because it doesnt matter to me. but our politics? they affect the entire world. hell,our Navy's army has the 5th largest airforce on the planet, and we're supposed to care what begger nations think? dream on.

Boom! Dangle a little bait and the fish come in to eat it up. Couldn’t have been any more wrong on all your assessments.
Look at when this post was made and look at the amount of discussion that went on.
Second, I’m not from England, but it doesn’t surprise me that you know nothing about the country, typical American who doesn’t get out of his own town.
You think having a big navy and army’s makes you a great nation? That’s laughable. All you’re guns aren’t going to save you from implosion. It’s amazing that in the 21st century you are still under the impression that you need a gun to keep you safe and that those who don’t have guns are hoping that the ‘masters’ keep them safe. Hope you eventually come out into the world and stop living under that rock

LMAO, I swear, this is like playing chess with a pigeon. you have no idea what the pices are, how they are supposed to be moved, but you think you are clever. lets review 1 you cant answer simple questions. 2 you pretend rape and other violent crimes don't occur in "middle earth". 3 you assume I haven't travelled extensively (more than 50 countries on 6 continents,boy did you blow that one!) 4 you're still a hoplophobe, that doesn't understand guns well enough to discuss them at any level. now, your original post was in response to the Vegas shooting,which was certainly a tragedy. however, I'm quite frankly glad of a few key facts, that you never considered,because you never realized.
1 the guys tactics sucked. in discussions with other veterans, the consensus was, with what was available to the shooter, anyone that actually knew what he was doing could have doubled the casualties.
2 dude owned a plane, and that concert was right next to an airport. if you think 58 dead was bad,Google "Oklahoma Federal building bombing" and try to wrap your head around a Cesna loaded up with fuel oil and fertilizer plowing into 20,000 people.

now, onto your latest post. having a large military isnt what makrs us a great country, but, again, it insures that the rest of the world does watch us, amazingly closely. because face it, if we get annoyed with your little country,we can demolish it. and theres not a damn thing you can do to stop us. now, you (unwittingly to be sure) made the point for gun ownership, and contradicted yourself in 2 sentences. "all your guns aren't going to save you from implosion"
gasp oh my Gods, you mean you think we might suffer a societal collapse?? well, who would keep my wife and kids safe from the mindless zombies and liberals whos welfare checks didnt arrive?? damn, guess I would have to.
here in the states, we have a saying. "when seconds count, police are only minutes away". the average violent encounter is over in less than 30 seconds. average police response time varies wildly, but the BEST Ive found is in the 4.5 minute range. the response time in my home is 1200 feet per second,the velocity of 9mm +P hollowpoints

hopefully you can get a glass navel, and see the real world around you

Keep living in your fantasy world. There is 0% chance that you have been to 50 countries across the world. With an attitude like yours its more like 50 meters from your parents house.
How do I know this? Because I myself am a traveler, having been to numerous countries in Europe and Asia, and I have had thousands of conversations with people across the world.
One thing I've learned about people (especially Americans) who travel, is they realize that the world is a big beautiful place and the gun touting fanatics usually haven't ventured beyond their town border. While you keep living in fear of your neighbors and whether your weapon cabinet will keep you safe, I am going to go on and keep living and enjoying my life. You can keep your gun paranoia to yourself.

lets see, my first cruise was in 1988, a world cruise. 13 months, visiting ports, showing the flag. fun fact, we were the 1st U.S. warships to hit port in the soviet union since WWII. and yes, the world IS a big beautiful place. some shitholes mixed in, but there are some amazing places. and as usual, you have not addressed anything regarding guns. is there a reason you run away from the discussion you claim to want to have?