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RE: Going around the direct removal and listing of projects in the whitelist

in #gridcoin7 years ago

That is why six or so months ago I came up with the Greylist idea. You do understand that its a projects responsibility to keep work units flowing and their relationship with Gridcoin in the positive not the other way around. Gridcoin doesn't contact a project and " hay buddy you are in jeopardy of losing our teams crunching power get work units generated please. "Enigma@home ran out of work units for more than 3 months and was work-less on the whitelist and a matter of fact they announced they ended the project earlier than planned due to no point of working threw the last few dictionary pages when they had already been gone threw 3 times before and would be a waste of their users resources and electricity. We do not just remove projects from the whitelist because we don't like them so someone throws up a vote out of spite. Just like the current votes on new projects , notice 1 is not fairing to well although it would help by adding another GPU capable project to the current whitelist. I agree the list is small , I hate that projects get removed before 6 months vote or no vote. So a few months ago we started discussing a whitelist idea and I doubt its gotten put in front of Rob as its not been talked about officially nor in the current road map. What this would do is similar to what IRC networks do #1 a project would apply for a vote to be on the WL , if accepted this would put them #2 on a trial whitelist ( greylist ) and they have to #3 meet the requirements to stay on the WL as its a projects responsibility to keep work units flowing to crunchers not Gridcoin. This would be something like but not limited to a steady flow of min WU number count over a period of time , minimal allotment for downtime of any sort such as maintenance or bandwidth/power provider and hardware issues or upgrades ( seti@home for example is down every Tuesday planned ) . After 6 weeks of meeting the requirements then the project would be on the actual whitelist , initially the project would have to meet it 100% for the 6 weeks or so to get off the Greylist and get put on the Whitelist. Once on the whitelist if the project has no WU or was down for any reason for the 6 weeks or 3 months what ever is preset it would auto trigger the automated listing system and put the project back on the Greylist and if not fixed in the time frame alloted such as the preset 90 days and the project would automatically be removed no vote needed BUT if fixed in that 90 days it would be put back on the Whitelist automatically. Maybe this system would also help with the project/superblock issue and projects being left off or falling off the whitelist as far as the neural network is concerned as it could also check that the NN has the correct list of honored projects , this could be really important when the team requirement is removed.

This makes it so its not investor whales who don't crunch denying project votes choosing what projects we crunchers have to choose and support , especially since votes for new projects are still being based upon a past foundation vote that states projects are not required to have SSL in order to be on the whitelist ie: xansons4cod.com vote will fail and I would love to have David Anderson comment on the boinc-server and boinc-client and how/if the back-end actually encrypts data or if its just using port 443 to communicate between the client and the server raw data and the only part of the boinc-server that uses SSL is the webserver itself and the website. The greylist gives a standard for projects to meet in order to keep a working relationship with Gridcoin , if those standards are not meet they should not be on the whitelist. The idea is to keep the WL small and not have frivolous projects on it with no work just because they were there at 1 time because the way the coins are given out for the day. A 0 work project can also leave open room for an idle webserver to be compromised while admins are not watching their server look what happened with openSSL the past few years and there are still systems that have not patched , same with ntpd and ddos amplification.

Additionally Gridcoin is a community project , it does not matter who likes you or wants you around etc anybody can join and help in any area. That also means despite the idiotic irc hierarchy that is abused and ignored and incorrectly used that is untrue and ignored other than whom has been around longer and past channel @op's passing it to whom ever was voiced or around still you and me and everybody even Customminer no matter what anyone may think are equal. GRC8 get along clique included.

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Yes GPU work units typically are 5 times the data than a CPU WU btw that is a workflow issue not gridcoin aka end users crunching..