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RE: This video had me crying I was laughing so hard - Le Pen? Seriously? I Literally Can’t Even You Guys!

in #funny8 years ago (edited)

Thank you, and I am aware there are no rules against sharing content. I had previously expressed to the OP that I believe that content such as this doesn't deserve to be rewarded. The author of the work deserves to be rewarded. This is very similar in context to many creators on YouTube who have their work stolen in one way or another by individuals and companies who profit without recompensing the creators, although I do not mean to imply that the OP intended to do so (I have no idea, honestly). To post someone else's work and then accept rewards for doing so is, in effect, a form of theft, unless that money is then sent on to the creator of the work. It is a matter of ethics, and I am sure you can appreciate it if you put yourself in the shoes of the creators who've had their work stolen for profit.

When I share such content, I do not want to be rewarded, either. I do so for the benefit of the community. I shall have to remember, in the future, to put a comment on such shares not to upvote it. It's a pity that there is no "like" button that will get a post attention without earning money.

If I'm not clear, please do feel free to ask - and thank you for taking the time to comment!

Out of curiosity, because I'm a bit unsure myself, do you happen to know what the copyright laws say about someone earning money by sharing someone else's work without permission? I'm pretty sure it is illegal, but I could be wrong.

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doing so is, in effect, a form of theft,

In a matter of fact that isn't true. If someone is rewarded for sharing ideas it is not akin to theft, it is just a reward for sharing those ideas. Now if we could take the idea (in this case the video) away from computingforever's channel on Youtube in a way he wouldn't have it anymore. That would be theft.

I strongly disagree with the claim that when someone's potential revenues MAY get reduced (which more likely isn't the case) for copying or sharing his work, that consitutes a theft. It would mean that whenever someone simply downvotes your comments on steem and your potential revenue gets smaller that's a theft too. And that just isn't the case.

Thank you for sharing, gamer00. My comments are based upon the comments YouTube creators, and also on patents. The two primary complaints I've seen are actual theft of the creation (eg: a high-speed video was edited to show just the part a company wanted to use, with no attribution or royalties to the creator), and loss of revenues because of being displayed on other platforms that don't return revenues to the creator - in that case, Facebook. The creators were LOSING revenues, which were being taken via direct theft of the creation or via non-compensated viewing on other sites, and their complaints were (at the time of making the complaint videos) ignored. When a creator loses revenues, and those revenues go to another party, that is theft.

Put it another way: You make an original painting. Someone duplicates it and sells it as an original, which is clearly illegal according to existing laws on artwork. They do not recompense you, although they do sell it as your product. You have lost the revenues from YOUR work, while that person pockets the money, minus expenses. That is the same basic thing as posting other people's videos and getting money "for sharing them", but it is worse because, whereas selling that forged painting is a one-time sale, this is repeat business (on steemit, until the payout period is finished).

I do not agree with your final sentence and it is a different issue.

Thanks for taking the time to give your input. Only by communicating our thoughts can we improve steemit.

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That's a valid viewpoint. There is a way as a poster to create a post with rewards declined. It is up to each author to decide if they want to post that way, but based on what you are saying it sounds like something that you would want to do if sharing that type of content.

Your question is a really good one, and I don't know the answer.

I could be wrong on this, but I would expect that when a website like Steemit (or Facebook) shows a YouTube video - that it still counts towards the original YouTube poster's views and advertising revenue (assuming they have it setup to monetize). Sharing the link on somewhere like Steemit or Facebook is still helpful to the original poster in that sense.

Whether it is ethical for someone who shared a link to the content to get paid for sharing it is a very interesting question for the community to decide.

You should think of writing a post about it. I think it would make for a good discussion.

Thanks for telling me about the option to decline payout.

In the past, I have seen videos from creators on YouTube complaining that Facebook steals their rewards. I don't understand how that happens, or if it was ever corrected on Facebook. As far as I understand, who gets paid depends entirely on how a referring platform is designed. I have no idea if steemit is programmed correctly or not.

My wife is in the process of dying, so it will probably be a few days before I feel up to tackling an article about this. Thanks for the comments!

Sorry to hear about your wife :(