There's a lot of victims in the world. People who have gone through, are going through, or will go through some seriously awful shit. But if someone is a victim by choice, should we really feel any sympathy for them? I think not, as it only reinforces their behaviour and solidifies that victim mind-set.
When it comes to this subject, the only victims who are created as a direct consequence of anyone else's use of bad language, are people who make the conscious choice to be a victim.
If I call you a cunt, even if I intend to cause you offence, the choice is still yours whether to decide to be offended. This very simple understanding is something that has become difficult to comprehend within today's society, because it has become the norm for people to determine their self-worth based on the opinion of others.
Now, I would postulate that this was no accident. Insecurity is the greatest motivator for one to be a very good consumer, and so as long as we do value ourselves on the opinions of others, we will always want to buy more things and change who we are in order to increase our value through the eyes of our peers. But, if one holds their self to no standards other than their own, then the words of others who would seek to offend become a complete irrelevance.
We hear that one of the main reasons not to swear, is because kids might hear you. But, why does that matter if a child hears a word? What victim is created here? I see none. All you have done is broadened a child's vocabulary, which is arguably a good thing.
Swear words are only "bad" because we have for some reason decided that they are. So, a child using a ton of words that we think are bad, is only a bad thing because we have attributed negativity to something that we did not have to.
The irony in this is hard to ignore too. We can listen to a song on the radio that teaches little girls to twerk, little boys to see girls as toys, teaches that money is the most important thing in the world and you cannot be happy without etc.. A lot of mainstream songs nowadays contain all of these fucked up ideologies and a ton more. Now these are seriously corrupting things that can and do lead to real victims and widespread misery, yet we censor the word "arse" and think that we are saving our children from being corrupted?
This to me is fucking silly. Would you rather have someone say to your daughter, "You are fucking amazing. You can achieve anything you put your mind to," or, "you are ugly so you should put on make up otherwise you're worth nothing to society?"
The first one has what we refer to as a "bad word" in it. Yet, which one would truly do harm to the child and their psyche?
The simple fact of the matter is that words are words. It is completely unproductive and illogical to brand some of them as villains for no reason other than we get to complain about them being used. There is no intrinsic malice contained within the word fuck. No more than there is contained within the word damn, at least. But, one could cut another human deeply using a sentence composed of entirely "good" words. So perhaps we should call all of them bad words, or none of them at all.
This is one of those things were it is all by degrees.
Fuck has made its way into the british language such that if you don't use it, it just doesn't sound right.
Swear words, are used by most people with a decent vocabulary like you would use seasoning in a dish. It adds flavor. But, then you get someone who uses seasoning as the dish, and its horrible, obnoxious and unpalatable.
Also, we use these words to define how agitated we are by whatever has/is happening. So, a person swearing is considered more upset then a person who is not. But this is thrown out the window when you encounter a gutter mouth. And so, it is uncomfortable, because you brain is telling you that this person is about to pull out a knife and start cutting people up.
I tend to never use swear words, as there are better descriptive words that can be used instead.
This is an amazing analogy. And I agree, even though I fear I may use a tad too much seasoning at times.
It's all nonsense, just cuntish indoctrination to give the illusion that those who don't use "bad" words are somehow virtuous and a cut above. It's also a way of controlling/punishing children for nothing more than saying something.
Well, I think the context is more important than the word itself. 'Fucking' is being used in all sorts of contexts by now, so it is not really a 'bad word' anymore. If someone calls me 'fucking awesome', I wouldn't feel offended. If someone calls me a 'fucking cunt', I will still take offense though. Not because I lose self-worth, but because I feel it's rude. Depending on, again, context ofcourse.
Today's music and associated clips are absolutely horrible and they breed a very fucked up society. I'm horrified that today's youth enjoys all of that crap you mentioned. That, to me, is way worse than a few swear words.
I gotta admit though, I don't like the use of too many swear words without any need. It sounds rude to me and it lowers the tone of a conversation for me. I guess that's just personal preference.
So then you agree that it is the context and not the word itself. So, you could also be just offended by words that are not regarded as curse words. This why I believe none should be considered bad, because they can all be used in a good or bad context.
Fuck you are a wise cunt
S is very close to D on the keyboard, so if you ever say those words to a woman, be sure not to make a typing error or it could end up really bad. lol.
I had to think about that...such a wide perspective
I'm going through some of this now with my son.... or I guess with my wife. I couldn't care less what words my son uses as he learns to express himself. My wife, on the other hand, keeps getting after me if I swear around him. Right now it's just a battle between the two of us. Eventually, it will be a battle between teachers as I tell him he can say whatever he wants because that's his right (except things like threats and verbal abuse, of course) and the teachers will try and control his speech to use only the approved vocabulary for no other reason than, "It's not a nice word." I don't really give a fuck and I'll certainly be on my son's side for that one.
If a child gets proper tutoring from his or her parent, then they will know the right time to use it. Thats my perspective sir
When is the right time though? Or more importantly, when is it not the right time?
I guess its more of when they can deal with it, the age may differ the development of the child matters
They only use good words in the good book......
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this is a good read. its very "stoic" of you, and what I mean is that the stoic philosophy says that you have control over your own life and you should make it the best y0u can. so if someones calls you a "cunt" and you get offended you should ask yourself why, a stoic would get called a cunt and he/she wouldnt care. they would say "thats nice" and keep on going with there day.
people who get offended by swear words i think are just wound up so tite they dont know how to relax.
good read
No need for the warning: I couldn't give a fuck if people find a few characters on a screen offensive.
I love swear words and I never curbed my tongue too much when my kids were young. Okay, so what if we call it potty mouth. Sometimes FUCK is the only appropriate response. Granted, I don't like hearing my favorite word overused because some punk likes to use it in every other word of their sentence but swearing doesn't usually offend me.
Someone once exclaimed "You are a cunt," to me.
Instead of getting offended I said, "I have my moments. But why do you think so?"
I mean... come ON! I'm usually a very nice person. Pretty laid back. Strangers don't know me well enough and they certainly haven't spent enough asshole time with me to call me a cunt so I chalk it up to their ignorance rather than being offended.
My parents never said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." In fact, my father often said, "If you can't say something nice, come sit next to me." Perhaps that's the Irish humor. :D