What Gives Our Government the Right to Take Our Children?

in #freedom7 years ago (edited)

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Believe it or Not, We Give Them That Right When We Register
The Birth Of Our Children.

You may think this is just another conspiracy theory but I assure you something is up, just think about it, what other logical explanation can there be?

When you register something like a car, a boat or a child you are creating a vessel to operate within commerce, registration is to hand over legal or title ownership of a vessel to the crown, in return, you will receive a piece of paper stating that you are now the registered keeper of such vessels.

So basically by registering the birth of our children we turn them into a commercial asset or corporation which is owned by the state, we then get a piece of paper called the birth certificate, this piece of paper turns the HUMAN into a PERSON.

Please look up the legal definition of a person, and then a Human Being.

Person.

In general usage, a human being; by statute, however, the term can include firms, labour organizations, partnerships, associations, corporations, legal representatives, trustees, trustees in Bankruptcy, or receivers.

A corporation is a "person" for purposes of the constitutional guarantees of equal protection of laws and Due Process of Law.

Human Being.

a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

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When I first heard this my mind was blown, I was not ready for such information so I discarded it as nonsense, but since I have not yet discovered a reasonable explanation why they can come and take our children with such ease, I have to accept this to be true.

Please if anyone out there has any evidence that blows this theory out the water then I welcome you to share this with us.

You don't have to accept what I am telling you, but you can't deny the fact, that so many government agencies all over the world are legally kidnapping children at an alarming rate, all in the name of child protection. If you are not aware of this happening it's because the news does not cover such stories, it only takes a few minutes on the web to uncover such horrors.

Please follow this link for such stories,
https://steemit.com/freedom/@markwhittam/state-sponsored-kidnapping-of-homeschooled-children-is-happening-all-over-the-world

Here is just one example of their so-called 'child protection' in action, I know this to be true because it happened to us, A month ago in Sweden, we were threatened by the state that if we did not send our child to school she would be put on the child protection services list and taken into foster care, the reason they gave was that they believed this to be a worrying situation that we would continue traveling and world schooling our children.


World Schooling LINK


It's obvious we have a problem but how do we solve it?

  • How do we take the power back?

  • How do we stop the legal kidnapping?

  • How do we protect our selves against such injustices?

One way is to know your rights, another is to not register the birth of your child, another is to never let these people into your house without a warrant, another is to know how to play their game, if you know how to deal with these people then you won't fall for their dirty tricks.

All the above are great ways to protect yourself but sometimes even these are not enough, These agencies pick on the weak, the poor, the single mothers but will often back off if they are confronted by a group of determined parents. I believe that strength in numbers or even better strength in unity is the best hope we have, being part of a support group or community is the best protection possible, having a group of people that are willing to fight for your rights at a moments notice is without a doubt the best method.

We now have such a group on steemit, @familyprotection is an account set up to protect families from the state, at the moment this is a small support group but as steemit grows so will @familyprotection, this account in the future may have the funds, Lawyers
and connections to really help families in need. Please follow @familyprotection
and support in any way you can, by upvoting, by resteeming, by writing any
stories about the 'child protection services' and tagging it with
#familyprotection we can help spread awareness on this subject.

Together we will overcome.

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Thank you so much for sharing this information that I was totally blown away. This is so great because it really reminds me to always read the final script especially dealing with the government.
It really ticks me off when we as parents have no real truth and rights for our own children. This system is so messed up and sickening.

It is truly staggering to me the number of people who think it is ok for the government, any government, to forcibly remove children from a home. Supposedly for the sake of the child. Once you go down that road, that road is filled with peril. There is almost nothing worse than a petty bureaucrat with the power of government behind them. Almost any solution is better than the government kidnapping and selling system they have now.

You are what the world needs more of @markwhittam. People of character and integrity who will look out for the needs of their children, at all costs.

Wow, thank you @celsius100
This comment is so on point, I can not believe the amount of comments I have had that support governments taking children,some people have even admitted to trying to have children removed from family members and strangers.
Luckily 98% of people on here are not so Ignorant.

Thank you for your support and admiration.

Bless.

Hi every one i am new here .thanks for your guide if I have your attention

I wholeheartedly agree... thank you for your input, hearing from others, it´s just NOT OK. helped... like verry little actually, since its going on... but it helps maybe deal with the shame, of having lost your children to the government.... helps the shame, nothing can ease the pain :/

The world we live in now is horrible. You don't own you. They own you. I became aware of this when I heard about the case of the Naugler family (American homesteaders) who had their children taken away because they were unschooled and lived off-grid. I remember this story shocked me because until then, I had lived with the strange idea that I own me...
But as you say, if enough people awake to the truth, maybe we can take ourselves back.
Great post. I really enjoyed it.

Thank you @honeydue for reaching out to us.
We need to make people aware of this epidemic, it's our duty to warn people of these atrocities. Please speak out, make noise, write a post about this family and your thoughts and it will get support.

Thank you. Despite the fact that I agree more people need to know about this, I would not feel comfortable writing their story. It is theirs, not my own and it would feel wrong. Here is a link to their own blog, if anyone is interested to check them out, though : http://blessedlittlehomestead.com/

Yeah sorry @honeydue I do get a bit carried away sometimes, I keep forgetting not everyone has been through this.
We just resently had to flee our country under threats, and I grew up in This care system so I kind of have a reason to shout about it.
I will check out there link, thanks for bringing this to my attention :)

Bless.

Great work mate.
We're all slaves in the eyes of the state, it's awful.
I have a few friends who have not registered their children as they don't want them to be 'owned' by the state. But they live in fear of being caught and having their children removed from their loving homes. It really is an awful fascistic system and most people are completely unaware.
Great job highlighting here dude.

Thank you @tremendospercy
You are so right, most people are completely unaware, which is why I am doing my bit to make it known.
This is great that you know people who have decided to not register the birth of their children, If we all did this then they would be powerless.
If you was ever to write a post about your friends or how you feel about this situation I would support it in every way I can.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

Bless.

Thanks buddy that's really kind of you. There are one or two who are here at Steemit but it's not something they advertise for fear of being targeted by the authorities. I don't blame them, the creeping fascism of our government entities and their spying capabilities preclued some from even telling their nearest and dearest. It's a truly dreadful state of affairs. Thanks again for your work highlighting this important subject.

Yes I understand, but this is why we have started this group, so that one day when we are so big and so many, the day they come knocking on one of our doors we will rain thunder on them with knowledge and unity so hard they will realize there wrong doing, quit there job and join our cause. :)

I applaud and support the initiative, it is my hope that this platform will be one of the catalysts for positive change. With the right people driving it I'm confidant it will be.
Kudos my friend.

Hi dear @markwhittam, please vote and follow me @mrashid. Have a great time Thanks.

You betcha!

This really blown my mind man! This is so true, we do this without even knowing why we register our kids.
Thanks for opening our eyes mate.
You rightly said, alone we will not be able to do anything big, but together we can achieve great things.
Let's all unite and follow the @familyprotection .
Thank you!

Thank you @progressivechef
Your support and enthusiasm is just what we need to push this forward.

Bless.

Good job markwhittan hopefully this government's wrong action can we stop and hopefully more families and children who are helped by your hard work, and support your action

Thank you @riezky, it's great to see you are also doing your bit to spread awareness.
Time to put a stop to the madness.

it's really markwhittan, but lucky in my country there is no such treatment to children and I am very happy with it, hopefully our hard work can all get good results, happy to get to know you

Hi dear @riezky, please vote and follow me @mrashid. Have a great time Thanks.

It is sad when government doesn't do what it should be doing. Instead it imposes it's values on a family who they feel is not following the law to a tee. I feel when a child is truly abused, he/she should be protected but the way they interpret the law is very skewed. Instead of helping the child who is beaten or sexually imposed upon, they take a happy child from the family and then make him/her miserable. It should be to protect a child whose life is being threatened. It is very sad because there should be a sensible midpoint.

Thank you for your input @cabbagepatch.
The system is not working, the system is failing so many children.
It has to stop, it needs to change, we are all responsible for letting it get this way so we all need to come together to put things right again.

Bless.

Am sure this will end up a great wau lf helping many families and children. Our eyes are on it. Well done.

Thank you @gloglo, it feels great to have so much support on this issue.

Bless.

Bless you too. I believe we can help change a lot through this project.

The problem of the western civilization is multidimentional, but can be put under one term which is called "the creamation of care". How has it been possible to make so many people believe in government in the western world, comparred to the eastern world? I think it has a lot to do with the infiltration of "family unit" or in other words if you want to "demolish care" in a society, you only have to focus your conditioning on one part in the family unit, the woman. This is why the neo feminism is such a big deal and have been established in most of the western countries by Tavistok Institute among other thinktanks. This is the way they have been able to demolish the authentic women, which has the right moral and human values. If you think about it, it is only a conditioned woman, whom in her right mind put her children in public inductrination camps, but she dont know better, because this agenda have been going on for a long time and I'm not judging anybody with that level of awareness. But when one understand, one have the responsebility to act, which mean doing what you have been doing "Mark and family", taking the power back and home schooling your children. Home shcooling is actually to "CARE". Home schooling is actually saying NO to the neo feminist agenda. To "Home school" your children is being authentical parents in the family unit. Home schooling is actually saying NO to communism /satanism, because the neo feminist agenda is there to split up families, so that it's not more womens that nurture their children, but the state. That way they can more easely conditioning small new slaves. The state runned inductrination camps are not learning kids about real moral values, but more moral relativism and egoism, which is the "building blocks" behind the satanic agenda.
Child protection agencies is not worth anything for the children, as a matter of fact, from a danish perspective they should be called "child torturing agencies", because they remove children from caring parent and family members, and put back children to pedophile parent or care takers, its a disgrace and an absolute joke.
This problem of government thinking they own our kids has to be stopped, it will not go away if ignored, so your doing the right thing Mark. We just have to learn to say NO. That's the must powerful thing we have, next to unity. If we just stod together there was no problem to solve this problem, we are so many and them so few, THIS NONSENSE HAS TO BE STOPPED NOW
Great post Mark and family

Thank you @mackjez-santos for this comment, you are so on point, I agree with everything you said and I'm not just saying it.
I only wish I could resteem this comment because it was a great reflection of how the system is.

Bless.

I'm well aware of everything you shared in your post today. Thanks for sharing this important information. In the beginning I found it difficult to understand as well but everything that you have to register you don't actually own. But you still have to pay taxes over it. I followed @familyprotection. Great initiative.

Thank you @gardenbsquared, it's really good to know that a lot of people on steemit are awake and aware of the tyranny that is taking place on this planet.
Thanks for your support

death to government officials

No, they just need a big hug and less power, we can't fight them we just need to support each other and let our love overpower their evil ways.

Nice post!! The government owns us all. i wish we didn't have a debt based form of captalism. Maybe if we had the Austrian type of captalism our government would treat us more like People than property. but no we have a form of capitalism that thrives on consumerism where people aren't doing their part if they aren't creating debt to buy shit they don't need.

Yes I agree 100%
Can you believe it's actually profitable to have children in Foster care.
I must admit I am not that knowledgeable about the Austrian way but I will look it up.
Thanks for the feedback @cookiekush

That is a right....
Keep your children....
Success is always for you @markwhittam...

Unfortunately we do not have complete freedom here in America. It is up to the government if they choose to offer it. If you are a foe of the government and in the right it does not matter. Your life will be hell. There are countless cases of this over that past half a century. Yes with our SS card we are a corporation which means a tax base of $$ for the government. That is why your name is spelled in capital letters on any application form or tax document. Great article. Thanks for sharing.

Hey Mark, thanks for the info and update. You really should bring the @familyprotection project to the Whaletank next Saturday. You will find a lot of support from the people there and from other projects supported like Voiceshares. The new RSVP for #227 should be posted tomorrow.

Yes I really want to do this, sorry it's been a hectic weekend and I need time to sit down and understand the whole process and what it's all about.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention buddy.

Yep - I understand the time issues ;-) I will catch you on discord again once the next RSVP post is up.

Enlightening!... Just got more informed by reading this. Thanks a lot @markwhittam for this wonderful post

Child protection, it must be taken care of, in my country maybe all countries have child protection law, so if any injured child will have trouble with the police, very good, but, for me and this is in accordance with the results My attention has nothing to do with anything else. Child protection laws also have a negative effect on their bad behavior, this is special in the school world, now children are more courageous against school rules or teachers, and risk their failure to learn more, because they already realize that nothing can prevent them , because they have been protected, I think a little not good. The solution, the government must change some rules against this issue. for example, can hit a stubborn child on the palm with a small rattan, and not exposed to bruising or bleeding, and perhaps for the teacher pinching a stubborn child's ears with not too hard. As was the case a few months ago, a teacher was imprisoned, for pinching a stubborn student at school, do you think this does not open up opportunities for schoolchildren to no longer respect teachers and they dare to oppose the rule. . I strongly agree with the law of child protection, but if in the world of education better if light beating in palm with rattan is allowed, so also at home, parents can be a bit hit their child so as not to dare to fight them, with the provisions as above, no more.

this is just my thinking, if you do not agree it's okay, I just want to see your response on this issue, no more than that.

Thank you.

To be honest there are some scenarios where I believe it's necessary for the government to take a chid away from his parents due to abuse or other similarities.

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Thank you for your comment @mattmarinov but I agree with @canadian-coconut, I myself grew up in Foster care and I can tell you that it's no place for any child, I believe in rehabilitation and any parents who have questionable parenting skills can with the right help and support change their ways.

Only In some very extreme cases should the children be placed with close family or friends, but never in the 'care system'

It is profitable for government agencies to have children in Foster care which is why they look for any reason to snatch children nowadays.

The current system is not working and it has to stop.

True. But it seems that all to often Social Services leave the severely abused children in the abusive homes, and instead take away children from good homes.

And the foster homes or group homes that they get placed into are often way more abusive than their own parents were.

It is horrific that children who need a safe place to live are placed into further danger by the government agencies themselves. There are TONS of stories of sexual abuse and other types of abuse happening within the foster care system.

The Social Workers try very, very hard to find anything wrong that they can possibly pin on the parents to snatch their children away from them,
and then they turn those precious children over (in many cases) to homes that are MUCH worse and that have not been properly vetted.

The whole system is utterly broken.

Very well said.

Two reasons that things work this way are:

  1. Social Services receives funding based on the number of children they take
  2. Parents are the first line of defense against the state when it is time for them to learn to obey and conform. Many parents tell their children just the opposite. I tell mine to use their brains, make their own decisions, and decide whether or not to comply. By taking children from those who really care for them and giving them to those that do not they have an easier time training them to be good submitizens.

I'm sure there are other reasons, but I believe those two reasons are the largest.

If more people were exposed to what is really going on I think things would change. Unfortunately most people can simply dismiss any horror story as something that rarely happens without considering how they would feel if it was their own horror story.

I totally agree with everything you said here. I truly believe that the government agencies and social workers are doing more damage to these kids than helping. It makes me sick to my stomach of how this whole system works.

Mark, I follow your story and your daughter is truly a bright girl. I watched the video and I was amazed of how smart she is. In place where I am currently living, birth certificate works to obtain any government paper issues but nothing related to tax paying. There are still many of citizens in my country who doesn't pay personal tax. Regardless, I believe that government has a right to take away children under hostile circumstances.

Best wishes to the family and the smart girl :) !

Nothing. Except if they are miss treated or abused by their parents.

Yeah much better that they are mistreated and abused in care by strangers in a system that profits from kidnapping children.

Great post...........@markwhittam Keep your children....

Wow! I never thought of it that way. To me, registering a child was simply a way to ensure an official record of birth so that one can benefit from social security programs such as Old Age Security Pensions and other such benefits. So by NOT registering, one will encounter difficulties at the other end. You are stuck between a rock and a hard place! What to do?

You say that placing a child in foster care saves the Government money??? How is that possible? As far as I know, foster parents get paid quite well for taking on children and it is a lucrative business. How can that save them money?

Not all foster homes are bad homes. I have a nephew that took on a foster child and that child was treated the same as their own children. That child is now married and has a child of their own and the 2 families still keep in touch today.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and there were several foster homes in the area, so I got to see how some of these children grew up. From what I saw, the foster homes were not the greatest at caring for the children, but no worse than some of the drunks that left their children to pretty much care for each other.

Hello @happyme, not registering your child has implications, but so does registering them.
The government make us believe that we need them and their 'benefits' but we are perfectly capable of taking care of ourselves.

I never said it saves them Money, it makes them money, it's very profitable to have children in the care system,in the same way its profitable to have people in prison.

The CPS and prison service are companies trading for profit and competing for the tax dollar.

There are some Foster families that care, but I grew up in Foster care and it's no place for any child. It's much better to keep families together and work on the problems rather that tear families apart and create more problems, abuse in foster care and care homes is rife TRUST ME.

Thanks for your input.

Sorry, I should have wrote "makes money" rather than "saves money", but I still don't see how that happens.

The CPS and prison service are companies trading for profit and competing for the tax dollar.

Can you explain this? How does it make money for the Gov't.?


I have no doubt that foster homes can be abusive. Anywhere that money is involved, there will be abuse. All I said was that you can't paint them all with the same brush; as with most things in life; there are always some exceptions.

I'm sorry that your experience was not a good one.

I'm also in agreement that some families are destroyed when they really should not have been. That too is unfortunate and in my mind is criminal negligence at best and outright criminal in some cases. At the same time, there are situations where a child really is better off leaving a toxic environment until such time that the environment is cleaned up. I personally know someone who told me they were held down by their own mother while the mother's boyfriend abused them. Do you really think this home is better than a foster home? I can imagine the torture one must feel being abused by a stranger, but what a mind-wrecker when your own mother is doing it!

Child Protective Services is competing for government funding,
and the more children that they take into foster care,
the more funding that they receive,
and the more workers they can hire, etc.

So of course it costs money,
but they treat government money like it is free and do not care that everybody else has to either pay more taxes or get less of other government services, or that the government debt keeps rising and rising.

Of course some children need to be protected from abusive parents,
but in many cases, the foster homes are abusive.
They will try their best to find any minor fault with the child's parents so that they can take that child away,
and then they place the child in a foster home that has not been properly vetted and where abuse occurs, which they completely ignore when shown evidence.

The system is broken,
and the Social Workers in charge right now should not be working in this field at all.
They all need to be fired, and ethical people need to replace them.

Oh, I think I get it now. Its not that they actually MAKE money by it, but simply take more out of what people pay in taxes to grow their empire as each department does. Many little fiefdoms. I guess that's what happens when there is little to no oversight. All public services should have some sort of watchdog to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Agree with you !

Yes the system is broken and the social workers should be fired and the children put into no schooling homes. Where parents put the children first in their lives.

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I believe this is a complicated issue, and sometimes a child is better off being removed from the care of his/ her parents. In some cases, like with Marks daughter, this is certainly not the case. Because of a law that I don't agree with the threat of removal is very real for them and their options are very limited.
As Mark writes there are only a few ways to avoid having to send the child to a government approved school. Leaving the country is one of them.
We have done that successfully for two years now. We know our right and have dealt with three different school principals, and after helping them understand the law they came to the same conclusion as us: As long as we are not in Sweden during all or at least most of the school year the child is exempt from the mandatory school (and the schools responsebillity for the child is is also void).
We have learned to play by their rules and avoided threats of SPC, but cannot spend time in Sweden during the school year.
I hope this project will bear fruit and one day be able to help families that have had a child removed from them.

Someone has been researching ;)

Extricate yourself from the system, you are also a person, and you can extricate your children once you're out because they're minors. Not saying that's easy, but it is the solution.

The system is designed so that it can only deal with the person. Courts cannot hear you if you are not the person. If you go to court and try to say you're not the person you're the man, but you're talking to the court, they get jurisdiction and you lose. It's a very insidious setup, and you really have to get your ducks in a row to stand against it, but it can be done.

It's not something I am well versed in myself, but have been looking in to.

Best to you

Wow! Friend,you are going to the right direction. Great job unity is the greatest power of the world, unitedly you can stop the brutality of the so called government. Great job I think in near future hundreds of thousands markwhittam come out to support you in your great effort. Thanks for the bravery, proud of you my dear friend, may god grant you the best results. Stay blessed friend happy steeming.

Yep there it is. Once again, Good Luck.

Wonderful post. Only through self education can we hope to get our sovereignty back

There is a difference between children and sons/daughters. In our english speaking system, most are not taught the difference between legal term and lawful terms.

Claim your offspring's bodies as your property, until they are old enough to claim it themselves, and prosecute anyone who steals said property.

If you don't change your words/written words, then the common law will bring you through it.

I was going to reply with a comment regarding newborn DNA screening in Australia.
Every child (unless the parents object) has a heel prick test, to test for rare diseases.
What parent wouldn't consent to checking if their precious bundle has a rare but serious problem?
What I don't recall being told is that they store our DNA forever, in a secure lab.
My DNA, my husbands and our children's has been stored. I learned this in a documentary. Perhaps I sighed or consented when they asked me if I wanted my baby checked for rare diseases.
Most data I can find relates to comforting parents regarding the temporary discomfort their baby may have when a needle is stuck in their heel. Interestingly can't find much about concerns about DNA storage and usage.

I was looking for an Australian link for you. There is a lot of information about the tests, but I couldn't find my state storage policy easily. What I did find was each state has different rules about storage.
I also found that other countries do the same. This is a medical journal from American paediatric assoc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3065077/

up vote :) Best wishes. - @splendorhub

I'm not entirely convinced that the birth registration is even needed for them to take your child. Let's be honest, most people wouldn't be able to fight it anyway. If the government has decided it's all powerful and has the right to do what it likes to it's people and the people pretty much believe that this is true, then they can get away with kidnapping and will be supported by a majority.

You bring up some very interesting ideas that I've never thought of before. All the best to you and your family.

Yes we need peace all over the world and to the entire environment. thanks for this great lovely message to all. have a bless time guy's.

Loved this.
I unfortunately already registered my CHILDREN so I can't go back and fix that but I can resteem this and hope that perhaps one watchful learned eye sees it.

The whole idea of CORPORATE AMERICA scares The shit out of me and I don't like the path of harm it puts us all in.

This post has me setting up my schedule tomorrow for some more investigation into the sovereign citizen movement. I am not comfortable with the direction our country is heading and have not been since I became politically aware some 30 years ago.

Thanks for stoking the fire.

Just my two STEEMS Worth.

DANGIT. Can't resteem a post 8 days old.
This needs to be addressed. I have found many post that deserve more eyeballs on them. Not being able to resteem this SUX OUT LOUD.
Any suggestions?