Hey, thanks for reading and thinking about my comment. It wasn't really my mind I was trying to change, though. If I were to get upset every time I saw or hear about somebody hurting animals, I'd never get through a day. It happens all the time, and just about everywhere (not that frequency makes it any better). Really, I was commenting for others - humans who are currently abusing and killing other animals, and their victims. Not for myself. But thanks for thinking about my feelings, I appreciate that!

You mentioned humane eggs. I myself ate humane eggs for many years when I went vegetarian. My thinking was "I need protein, and if I don't eat flesh, I better eat eggs and breastmilk!" Then I learned that neither eggs nor breastmilk (and its products) are healthy for humans (especially adults) and lead to major health problems. I learned that humans are the only animal that collects and uses the breastmilk of other species, and that 3/4 of humans can't properly digest it after the age of 5 (only 25% of us are lactose tolerant). I also learned there is nothing (absolutely nothing at all) in them that we need for nutrients. We can get everything else from plants, without exception. Every single vitamin, mineral, fatty acid, amino acid, and trace element can be found in non-animal sources. You will hear rumours that vegans need small amounts of animal products or they eventually get sick and die, but that's been a lie going around for hundreds of years, never backed up by science. Have a look. There's nothing (not a single molecule) needed from animals, ever. We've been doing it for tradition, convenience, and taste buds.

And lastly, which got me to finally stop using ALL animal products a few years ago, was I found out that "humane eggs" don't exist. I'd been stepping up my egg game for years, and harming even more sentient animals, which was the opposite of my intention! I was horrified, but quickly made the necessary change, and now I can live with myself and my actions, but I do have regret about the years of pain and suffering I caused, ignoring my gut feeling, ignoring the please of principled intelligent humans (and suffering animals), and continued to feed into that system of animal slavery and exploitation.

If you're not sure about humane eggs, run a little search and investigate from a place of trying to find the answer (being careful not to seek to validate our current thinking/behaviour). If you'd like help, please let me know. A good place to start is asking what happens to half the birth population as babies. When a bird egg hatches, the sex of the baby bird is finally visible. Females are valued for their egg production, but what about males that grow into roosters? Notice that factory farms don't have roosters? Notice that even those trendy backyard coop operations don't have roosters? The males have to be killed shortly after hatching, and that's 50% of their entire race. Bird eggs (even from "humane" sources) come from birds we have selectively bred (not allowing Nature to have a say in hundreds of years) until they've become massive unhealthy versions of their ancestors, popping out ovulations daily instead of twice a week, leading them to an early death. Egg laying chickens have been genetically altered, as have "meat" chickens, so that they are now almost different species. Egg chickens aren't economically viable as meat, just as egg producers. When their production begins to slow (even before they reach adulthood) they're ground up and fed to the others. And yes, this is all the humane egg production. Humane to the factory farms just means giving them X amount of space in cages, instead of a slightly smaller number. It doesn't mean they live normal lives. They're slaves, bred when told, eating garbage (including their own family members), fed hormones, kept in the dark, and killed when they aren't convenient for us. Humane has little meaning to the birds.

I want to thank you for trying to do less harm, though. That shows your heart's in the right place, for sure! Maybe you just haven't heard all the truth (many haven't... either it is kept from them or they refuse to look). Also, "free range" or "humane" eggs aren't entirely as bad as the worst of the worst battery-cage factory farmed eggs. By paying a little more, you've been doing a tiny bit less harm. That's something! We just have to realize that we can do away with that other 95% of harm we're doing.

And I must admit, eggs were a hard one for me. Giving up meat was easy compared to eggs (and perhaps cheese). Scrambled on toast, or baked into cookies and other foods. Nothing replaces (yet) scrambled eggs very well for me, but I will give JUST another try (it's probably improved since I tried a few years ago). But as you mentioned, there are easy delicious ways to bake without eggs! I can have cookies and cakes again, hahah. Knowing what eggs are and how they're produced helped me a lot, though.

Again, sorry to you or anyone else who feels offended or attacked, because that's certainly not my intention. I have a way of offering to help that some people find abrupt, and I'm working on that. I hope you take the info with an open mind, and investigate when you have time. If I'm wrong about anything I'd very much like to know. I'm on a quest for the truth, and to live a life of Liberty for myself and others, no other agenda. Thanks so much for the conversation and have a great weekend.