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RE: Why I am a vegetarian

in #food7 years ago

I would totally agree that there are plenty of strong reasons to go vegan. But there are some assumptions you are jumping to that were outside of the scope of my article.

I listed very little data on dairy for a reason, there's no outstanding data that says they are nutritionally, economically, and ecologically unsound in moderation. Without the data to match the fervor, it's hard to stand so firmly on an ideology.

Ethically with dairy, you have somewhat of a point. But these ethical issues scale with the size of the farm.

I had my own flock of chickens for a few years. I got my initial flock from a local guy who bred all of his chickens and kept the roosters. They ate only our kitchen scraps and what they could forage for most of the year. They also provided extra fertilizer for the garden. I did end up buying more from an online breeder, and yes, they culled the males. But maybe 15 baby chicks in total. For 5 + years of egg production, that's 1 bird death for every 1216 eggs. I would think a cat would kill more birds in that time it takes to consume those eggs.

Small scale organic grass fed dairy farmers usually take great care of their animals, and if they do cull one, every part of the animal is used for some purpose. Milk farming doesn't have to be unethical, it just is to maximize prophets in most cases.

  1. I may be wrong with moderation, meat in any quantity may cause ill effects. But there isn't any hard data to make the claim it does. So I chose not to claim otherwise.
  2. I acknowledged the fish issues, that's why I don't eat fish.
  3. Interesting video on phytates. I recommended soaking your legumes, seeds and nuts to rid them, but they will still exist in some quantity. If they are great for you, great, no need to soak :D

Maybe one day I'll be a vegan. I have nothing against the diet. But the sensationalism needs to calm down a bit with the community. I left religion for a reason. Anyone eating less meat is doing better for their bodies and the environment. Everyone can choose what that looks like for them.

Thanks for the follow and hopefully we can continue the conversation in the future :D

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Heey, milk causes cancer and that's not enough?

About the chickens, 15 killed chickens is still 15 sentient life taken away for absolutely no reason. As I have said, being a vegetarian is like eating less meat. In this case, a lot less meat.

Yea, it looks like you're into the "personal choice" now... And you know, the animal has no choice, right?

Connecting veganism to religion is like connecting people that were against black slavery to religion. It's not a religion, mkay?

It's a rights movement.

We need to give all sentient beings a right to live, to be free, and NOT to be abused.

One way to do that obviously - becoming an ethical vegan.

I would appreciate for you to post studies as the sources instead of videos. A simple link will do. I am comparing proselytizing veganism to religion because they both are based on dogma and extremism. We’re on the same side, yet you seem to be trying to force your brand of thinking on everyone else. I don’t think that’s an affective method of bringing about change.

The video is full of studies you can bring out of it. I'm not going to do that for you. Lemme rephrase it - it's not dogma, it's not extremism, extreme is the one killing the pig and raping the cow. Bye bye