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RE: Flagging is not censorship

in #flags6 years ago (edited)

These are not movie reviews, these are trailers. It's just scraping trailers off YouTube and posting them 5+ times a day profiting off other people's work. If movie companies saw this there would be DMCA notices.

Sharing is one thing, profiting off is a very different thing.

Regardless, this is freaking ridiculous.

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I agree the amount of money is ridiculous. I made a comment to a woman who was running a stock market guess what the rate will be tomorrow contest and she was ranking in hundreds. All she had to do was keep posting the same contest and writing down people's answers. We talked, I haven't checked but I think she better understands what the problem was, huge profits for little effort. Like I just said in another comment on here if the movie industry is putting stuff on Utube they know that stuff is going to get shared....maybe even edited and used as meme's. They know the risk involved putting their stuff out there and as long as he's not claiming he did the trailer it's not against the rules. If he gets sued that's on him, if you want to stop abuse of the rewards pool that's on you.

There is no DMCA issue. He has no clue what he's talking about. I shared URLs that link to a YouTube video. He's a computer guy so I'm guessing he's just pretending to be ignorant of the fact that these videos are all hosted on YouTube with the blessing of the rights holders. The blockchain and Steemit Inc are not hosting any copyrighted work. Any transgressions would fall on the YouTube account. That is why I try to select YouTube accounts that appear to genuinely have rights to the content as to ensure longevity of the post. It's not a huge detail but it's just one of tiny bits of effort I put into each post. I will never claim the posts are arduous but there is some effort and stamina involved.

I do have to agree with him though that the rewards you are getting are ridiculous, a lot of people been on here for quite a while writing highly intelligent stuff, putting a lot of effort into it and their post get ten, maybe fifteen bucks. We all need to be conscious of the rewards pool in order for Steemit to survive in the long run.

I can understand your opinion. There are a couple points I would like to bring up though.

First is I'm paying a high amount to get high reward votes to be listed high and gain exposure I'm buying up SBD on the market to spend which helps the economy and price. I'm not going to lie this usually results in a positive ROI because I like to time my bids during beneficial windows but it has also resulted in a negative ROI I've promoted these posts during bear markets as well at a loss. After you account for a 25% cut to curation and 50% coming in the form of SP not SBD the margins shrink rapidly.

Second point is that the rewarded amount will only ever go to someone else that is paying for it as long as one person is bidding in a window which is pretty much guaranteed to be the case every time. Those bots vote on a timer which uses their vote power as a countdown and then doles out the votes only to those that paid them. Those funds are carved out of the reward pool already by the bot owner's stake and essentially reserved for vote buyers. Any thoughts that I am taking away from hardworking minnows pouring their lives into content just isn't so. I'm competing with other bidders over that stake and anyone else can do it easily too.

If you have a problem with vote selling in general you should really take it up with @themarkymark he does appear to be the largest vote seller on steemit running bots I didn't even know he owned until recently looking into it. The really high paid screen grabs he likes to show were voted on by his bots.

He's the vote pusher, I'm just an addict.

Blah blah blah.

Not a single thing in this comment justifies your bullshit. You just trying to deflect.

The really high paid screen grabs he likes to show were voted on by his bots.

Yes, when I saw that bullshit I blacklisted it. $200+ to link a movie trailer? WTF. You should have been flagged ages ago but who wants to throw their money out the window for it and why should they?

You know, I'll give you an upvote for this comment, this is the most unique content you created since you been on the platform. You deserve something for it.

I have a hard time believing that but will ask @themarkymark to elaborate on it.

You didn't know he's a vote pimp?

lol, he said it's the thought that counts when I once said my vote don't amount to much so I figured he just feels needy in that way...lol.