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RE: Fascists Behind @Adsactly Account

in #flags7 years ago

Oh, that's unexpected, I mean the behavior of @velimir, it's pretty petty. I can't say that I fully agree with the statement about the quality of his posts, but in this case it is not the problem. I express my opinion about his posts voting for them, you likewise express your opinion by downvoting for them.

Voting is only a tool that allows you to say "Yes" or "No", it is a technical function in the context of Steemit platform. But unfortunately, the majority of users perceive and use the downvote from the point of view of emotions, like @velimir in this case.

As a result, we get what we get, what happened to you. last week I wrote a reply close to this topic:

Here we all saw wars of downvotes, many users perceive the flag as a personal biased insult, and want revenge instead of dialogue. It is quite logical that weak users do not risk to put the flags on strong accounts.

But you did it, your principles are superior to mercantilist and it's great! But principles need not only to exercise but also to defend, and you are doing it right now. Take my double respect!

@velimir made a mistake because he used his superior force without dialogue with you, only as a warning and revenge, shot in the leg.

To you I have only one question: Did you shared with him your opinions about his posts personally, before you take this situation to the public?

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Nothing against his voters, if they think he is good that's on them. I'm also not saying that he is completely shit, he is persistent. But persistent only because he knows the money is coming his way.
I wrote a couple of sarcastic comments on his blogs, probably not the best way to go about it, but I do think if more eyes see the problem the higher are the chances for that problem to be resolved.

I wanted to comment but I generally agree with all that @natord said in his comments, so I'll just upvote those

@natord Of course, he didn't. Never spoke to me. Just started flagging out of the blue. I spoke to few people who know him but without any results. We didn't do anything before he continued his silly flagging behaviour for three days. When you pick on others for no reason, you have to expect others will mind.

@velimir, thank you for your comment here, I always happy the presence of dialogue.

Well, we have a situation in which interpretation of the two sides is absolutely fair.

@moon32walker, I can't agree that @velimir should reduce his award because of anyone's requirements. If he gets a number of votes and profits, this does not mean that he does it unjustly. He took the time and effort to create his own "brand" here, as do many other users. This is the result of the features of the system, the result of how the platform works by itself. If you have no desire to make a profit, it does not mean that others will agree to reduce their appetite, especially if they invested in this business.

However, in this story there is one point which is wrong.

@moon32walker you have an absolute right to bring this issue for discussion, what you did.
@velimir you also have the same rights and can flagged any user here.

But somebody tell me: what the hell in this exchange of views is doing a third party that had no relationship to the process at the initial stage of its occurrence? I mean @adsactly.

I wouldn't pay attention to this situation, if you have exchanged flags only among yourselves. But the intervention of a third party, which initially supports one of the participants is wrong. It really destroys the system of flags.

@adsactly gets its influence thanks to the users who publish through this project their work. At least it looks so for the majority. And in this situation uses the power received from the user against a user in some personal purposes, without objective explanation.

Let's not fool ourselves here. He didn't get there organically like the rest of us did, he works for a whale and upvotes himself. With a help like that everyone can become a steemit star. And now after all that, after he became a "steemit star" he is bothered by my -5$ flags and decides to use the whale vote to flag me to 0. This is your friendly guy @velimir in short and his benevolent whale @adsactly.

Hahaha... the more I read all your sorry rant, the more I understand what you think you'll achieve. Your sorry perspective of envy and hate that you're trying to cover in unselfish motives is just pathetic. As you very well know the old Croatian saying: "A dog never barks because of the village." Hope you got some traffic to your blog by creating this show. :D

If I see the word envy one more time I will fucking explode. I hope everyone sees now what a cunt this guy is. I always knew it, now he is actually showing it.

Yeah, the Chinese say: "The truth hurts the most. That's how one recognizes it." Nice marketing skills, by the way! Well done! Oh, thank you for your insult, calling me a cunt. Interesting how you make your opinions of people you've never met in your life. We all here really appreciate that. :D

Rukomet ljudi pauza malo :)

Haven't you heard that most of the shit comes from China? I rarely call people cunts, but you definitely deserved that. I will not call you like that again, but know that in my heart you're a fucking cunt.
Why should I ever want to meet a person like you when everything about you screams that you're a fucking lizard. So will you decline some of your rewards or power them up?

ADSactly society is very protective of each and every member. We believe in togetherness and cooperation on all levels. We are forthcoming and welcome everyone to join us and cooperate on projects. We do not like to see any of our members put in harm's way or picked upon without any reason. We flagged this post exclusively for calling us "fascists". We have extremely low tolerance for anything nazi or fascist related.

Yes, but 6 days ago you flagged his other post: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@moon32walker/oops-bitcoin-did-it-again

without obvious reasons. that's why he called you fascist.

We flagged that post TODAY, after he flagged velimir 5 times and also attacked ADSactly main account what hurts all of our members directly.

Please do not edit your comments, you have written 18 hours ago. You ruin all cause-consequence connection in the dialogue, and makes comments of other users are irrelevant and not substantiated. It's a bad tone.

We edited for accuracy of what happened and to answer your question correctly. No other reason.

But he didn't flagged your posts, only @velimir. Why did you intervene? Did @velimir asked you?

ADSactly Society will always intervene on behalf of our members if they did no harm to anyone. As it is a case here. We believe in good spirit of togetherness.

Like me speaking to you would do anything. Would you reduce the payments for day or two, would you decline rewards? Would you power up your rewards? I would approach you with these questions. Would you comply?

But that's the thing - you never gave him a chance, the way I see it. Especially since your downvotes don't really dent the payout, they are mostly just unpleasant.

In my time on steemit I've learned that it's much easier to reach an understanding through chatting rather than mutual flagging. Hell, even hygiene and the bern reached some kind of agreement. So yeah. I think you should have approached him first.

I'm sure it was a very unpleasant feeling getting flagged by me after he raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from this platform in a very short amount of time.
And then he decides with all those hurty feelings to use a whale downvote to reduce my rewards to 0.
I don't live in the past, so what ifs don't concern me, I didn't feel a need for that then and I don't have it now. This is happening right now and he will need to adjust, or keep on going like nothing happened. I'm quite curious what would his answers be for those questions, as you can see he is strangely quiet.

Getting flagged for even a cent when you have a 200 SBD payout is unpleasant. Personally, if I was him? I'd just ignore it and not even bother flagging you back. I do not support revenge flagging.

You didn't feel the need to communicate your disagreement on his rewards in any other way aside from flagging. While this is a legitimate choice, in my opinion trying to TALK before shooting (or flagging) can be beneficial to all sides and prevent this sort of... unpleasantness.

As for why he is quiet in the thread: well, I would be too if someone called me a greedy fascist without ever exchanging a word with me. Hell, I'd call them something worse and go mind my own business. Especially if their downvotes can't really touch me.

Check my yesterday's blog. Check the flagged comments there and see for yourself what happened. There are some bad whales involved who play the part quite well.

This whole situation is majorly fucked up. The lack of communication did not make it better. And no, that toxic comment exchange is not a conversation. Not the conversation you two SHOULD have had before this became a payout pissing contest.

I hate steemit drama so hard.

Support your local dissenter!

Um, i think the truce is over,..

:sigh:

It was good while it lasted, I guess.

Boys will be boys, it's been bred/indocrinated into them by those that rule by force.

When a hammer is your only tool, everything starts to look like a nail,...

Boys will be boys, it's been bred/indocrinated into them by those that rule by force.

Sometimes I am grateful that I am a girl.