I think all the whales should start flagging, flagging, flagging!
Enough with the (circle-jerk) upvoting! Just flag until you feel better! We can tell you guys are all angry and upset up there in whaleville, so flag away!
Steemit is too easy now anyway and new minnows succeed too readily. It would actually be much better if everyone with over about 50K in sp would just flag, flag flag all day long.
Don't like the message - Flag!
Don't like the canva poster? Flag!
Don't like the profile pic? Flag!
Think the person made too much money? Flag!
The world will soon beat down the door to join in the fun. Just like they already are - only more of them - oh wait...
Stop voting and start flagging. This will make steemit the type of place everyone will flock to now. Actively search for what you hate and downvote that sucker!
The steemit world will be an even more welcoming place than it already is by the time you big fish are done with your nonsense.
This is the thrill of censorship and the reason most of us came here - to see it in action.
Never did I think fb would start to look in comparison but y'all are really pressing my buttons today...
Didn't you even try to make friends at your Fest?
Lul. U mad bruh?
lol - you rich people are on my last nerve today :)
Hahaha "you rich people". I am neither rich nor a whale. I just think its funny how entitled people are to their
hard earnedfree moneyI'm not looking at the money side - but the useless effort side. After 5 months here now - I still cannot invite my content creating friends. The 3 who did try all left and hate me now.
Then the people at the top of this house of cards, who could make things better, spend their days on haterade and circle-jerking. It makes me question my own motives, but I am still hanging onto the Alexa ranking for all its worth. Luckily my analytics show good traffic to my other sites - coming from my posts here, so I'm staying for now.
If I wake up one day and steemit is gone completely - I will not be surprised.
Lol why would your friends hate you? Ive had friends quit cuz they didnt like it, but none of them hate me. Id take a look in the mirror or at your "friends" if they supposedly hate you.
The entire point of flagging is to STOP the circle jerk. I honestly think you may not fully understand the steem rewardpool and our economy. Thats okay not to know, but keep that in mind before you make a fool of yourself and go off ranting next time
My "friends" are author and video content creating connections who feel they wasted time and effort and I can't say I blame them. I'm in Thailand as far as I can be from "people" so no mirror is necessary.
I am sure that I - like 99% of all steemers - do not understand the reward pool or its economy. This info is in "papers" of various colors that only a few can comprehend. The money of steemit is a mystery for the ages.
"Making a fool of myself" is the way I do business. You have not even begun to hear me rant because I keep it on the down low for the internet.
Nothing I say or do negates the fact that the whole time I have been here the predominant features of whales is that they:
I'm not saying this is wrong or right - just how it looks from down here and it ain't pretty or getting better.
Don't worry about us minnows. We are still very grateful for the leavings.
I really like Steemit for a lot of reasons, but it's clear that this platform has a lot of the same (very simple to comprehend) issues that the non virtual world has. The inner part of people is where the answers will lay. Clearly, as a whole, this has not been brought to fruition.
I too have content creating friends that would love it here on Steemit, short of the long wait they will likely face getting in, and the massive amount of time it takes to begin to figure out how it all works! They create content already! Podcasts, community organizing events, raising kids at the same time, busy people. I won't even try to get them to try this until I see if I think it's not going to waste their time.
I see so much fighting on here in various forms and it can be a problem, apparently, for some. It looks like if you just post something that someone doesn't like, it will cause you to get downvoted into oblivion. It's one thing to want people to work hard on their content. It's quite another to expect everyone to want to be in the arena, battling it out over the cornucopia and be grateful for the chance to walk away with only battle scars.
If you look at the TV Programming you can clearly see there are people who feel that because they have a lot that it's ok to dehumanize those who don't by offering huge financial rewards. Rewards which increase with the amount you are willing to subject yourself to very degrading behavior. Why? to get money to live on. Because this is the only species that has figured out how to penalize people for just being born by insisting they pay to live. You can tell by the tone of the comments if you are dealing with an elitist mentality, or someone who really cares about adding value to anything. I've seen a lot of very helpful people on here and I appreciate them a lot...
But I wound up on this thread because on of them is apparently getting a fair amount of powerful downvotes and I am trying to figure out why a helpful person is getting powerful downvotes like the person is. I'd be busy creating content but frankly, I am likely to get more rewards for curation than I get on most of my content... and that is clearly meant to be a means of control starting out here. I can partially see why. However, it does seem like it's pretty difficult to get any traffic on posts because some people are distracted with flagging and voting wars.I'll keep working on the community building and supporting what I do like and see where it goes. But I won't be able to justify spending as much time on my posts for a while so that is less quality content I can make available while I slowly build up community. But these battles going on on here are discouraging for serious people to watch.
I've seen some posts get a ton of payout just because they posted a big 'to do' click bait argument... knowing that people seem to love controversy and it would reel in the votes. To me, those posts are not the kind of content that will improve the platform, and yet I would not even begin to start flagging and downvoting them because you know where that would get a minnow on here... It's ridiculous.
If something isn't shit content, quality wise then it should not be downvoted just because someone does not like the topic, or whatever. Apparently that is starting to happen and it's sounding a lot like FB.
That said I feel that if this platform is what it claims to be, and good content creators are willing to stick with it there is a chance that the platform could succeed. But I really don't know by any personal experience how the platform really came to be so I don't know if it's intended to be crashed intentionally at some point or not. I can afford time wise to look at it as an 'adventure', at least to some degree, so I'll see what I can do... but I won't bring on others until I won't be feeling like I've walked them into a steeming pile of dung and wasted their time. I am glad I held off on inviting them. (I sympathize with you! I have seen a lot of others walk the day they got in. I'm not a quitter but I'm not going to be on some hunger games show kissing ass to people who feel their lives are worth more than mine either. Lol. My time does have value. And the self righteous nonsesne some people seem to be caught up in well they will be gone one day just like everyone else, and it is they who have wasted their time on a fiction. They can't take it with em when they go. Glad to see you have some similar ideas. I've seen some others who do as well. They just are not posting very much if at all because they see this as no different than the bankers problem from what I can tell.
@fitinfun I totally get what you are saying.
You're 4 months late.... bruh
Also did you assume their gender?!?!
Turbotriggerred.
Bruh is my prefferred non gender conforming pronoun. You are microaggressing against my feelings.
/ joke
I like turtles.
I SMELL LIKE BEEEEEF
what in the fuck
Lolololol. That phrase is my favorite random thing to say now. My wife gets very irritated hahaha
That was an entertaining read.
lol - I think I need a nap now!
This would in fact help distribution to minnows a lot more, same way during the "flagging experiment" minnows were making a lot more when the big upvotes were being countered by automatic flags.
I'm guessing you meant this to the majority, but since you seemed to make it personal at the end of your comment I just wanted to drop in this statistic that shows where most of my votes go. These are my outgoing votes for the last 4 months.
Yes, as the #1 reason to flag is disagreement of rewards, that's naturally what they should be doing, and more of it so it becomes a norm and people don't get as easily offended by only a few doing it and direct their anger at them.
If most whales started flagging, minnows would probably be making 1000% more curation rewards.
Flags are not censorship, the posts don't get deleted from the blockchain ever.
:(
I'm glad you vote for the little guys - thank you! I do see you on the posts of little guys more than most and I know that takes effort. We appreciate you from down here more than you can imagine.
All I know is that it is very dismal down in minnowland where few make rep 45 and fewer go beyond that. We rarely hear from whales at all - but when we do - they are fighting again.
Censorship make not make an individual post go away, but if the person leaves the platform, the censorship worked.
I don't get your math (or understand much about the money here) but if flagging each other would make the rewards trickle down farther - you have my full permission to keep battling it out.
Steemit equals Fight Club. And you are all the same person maybe???
Them fighting means that they care about the future of the platform, even more so than those just placing autovotes and rewarding the same authors constantly without caring what is going on. Especially if they flag they are sacrificing curation rewards so that the daily distribution of rewards goes to everyone else instead, such as minnows.
That's not censorship, if they leave because of a few flags that have removed some of their pending payouts, that's their problem. Flags are there for a reason even though those reasons can consist of many different things.
I haven't seen many minnows who write quality content and low rewards get flagged for disagreement of rewards, have you?
All flags I've seen so far from the usual suspects casting them have been on users already in the top earning lists, and the way they have reacted to a few dollars being removed from their posts has been nothing less than disgusting.
Think of the reward pool as a pie, if your mother tells you you can't have 2 pieces and instead shares that piece among all 8 of you without getting a piece for herself.
Are you accusing me of being someone else on the platform doing the flags?
No, no. lol. I am not accusing any of you of anything - especially not you. I'm an accountant anyway and do not make accusations at all.
I'm just saying a good half of the bigs are anons so isn't that the theme of fight club? Not knowing who you are?
No I am not seeing flagging of little guys - although if more flagging occurred on the bot comments and "nices" that might help.
The people I ran into being flagged in the last couple of days did not seem to be the "usual suspect" types, but I will yield to your better knowledge on that.
Like jerrybanfield told me and like I did not listen to today - "ignore the whales and the administration and just post your content." I'm going back to it and let you all fight it out until someone falls.
I'm in the weight loss and social media marketing niches and steemit has pulled me into all other kinds of distractions. Today being a great example.
I still love michelle's writing and her awesome example and tutorials for authors like me. I'm really disappointed in this turn of events. If she's scheming the rewards - which I have no idea - it's not like she's the only one.
Like I said - knock yourselves out - collectively! We'll get Brad Pitt and make a movie.
With the "usual suspects" I meant the usual bigger accounts that do the flagging.
Exactly, he didn't cry or whine about a few flags or quit the platform cause of it.
Being on autovotes doesn't mean she's undeserving of the votes she gets and I'm sure it took a lot of work to get there, same with my account. But her reaction to 1 flag which later lead to more flags was what was the most disappointing to me, especially from a user that has been here as long as most of us oldtimers.
I might have to recommend people to re-read the whitepaper every now and then.
I've been following jerry for a long time on a few platforms and he definitely rolls with the punches. He is a roll model for me just like michelle is.
Note to self - If I ever succeed enough to get a flag here - do not react in a way to cause more flags. Lord, give me strength.
And as to white papers or blue ones or smt ones. Ergh...
I totally understand resistance to reading the blue paper (highly technical) and the SMT papers (highly technical)^2 but the white paper...
You said you were an accountant. The white paper should not be a difficult read for you.
Oh please do not tell Jerry is a role model - would make me really sad - he is good in self promoting bull shit and has a thick skin, that is true. But that is all I would consider positive about him
My first fiction post ever, back when I was a tiny minnow, got whale slapped by blocktrades. So there are minnows who get attention from whales. I know of several others who also had variously sized whale slaps on quality posts.
Then I had some posts get OCDed and I got acidyo love.
So don't say whales only fight or don't interact with minnows.
You are right - I'm too much in the all or nothing in these comments. Of course there is good in all groups and I get that good attention too at times fropm big fish. That's why I'm here - for the interaction at all levels. How sad for that to happen when you were new here! Good for you to keep going when that happened. What was your crime or is that too personal?
Golden reply. This alone earned you a follow from me. You are not alone.