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RE: Flagging is not censorship

in #flags6 years ago

You are mistaken. It is not automated with zero effort. It is manually curated to avoid duplicates and while not being a huge burden does take some effort to maintain a centralized list of recent movie trailers. Day in and day out for almost two years now. I was doing it when they made a penny or less. It's curated link shaing with a specific theme as every social network has.

The fact is there are some people that enjoy the content and the account does add something unique to the community.

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It is manually curated to avoid duplicates

So it is copypasta.

Why not spend a few more seconds to write something unique? Where is your voice in this effort?

If the only effort is remembering if you pasted the link before then it is not really what I would call adding value.

I have other accounts for adding original thoughts, sharing news, doing memes, novelty bots, publishing data. This account shares movie trailers which is something that happens on social media. You are plain wrong about the zero value assertion. Some people enjoy it I'm sorry if that some how doesn't fit with your vision of reality but it's true.

This account shares movie trailers

And how are you adding anything to Steemit by doing that? What is your unique contribution?

something that happens on social media

Steemit is not twitter or Reddit. Those communities do not pay you out of a reward pool for your contributions and added value. Check that FAQ that I shared.

some how doesn't fit with your vision

It doesn't fit STINC vision.

Regardless, you are not being "censored", you are being downvoted. To use your words,
"something that happens on social media"

Seriously dude scroll up I've answered that question twice now. The existence of central repository for movie trailers is unique.

Steemit is inspired by those other social networks and so using it as such only naturally follows. I'm not sure what bringing up Steem's value proposition over competitors has to do with your point though.

The fact is some people watch the videos and upvote the posts. That falsifies your zero value added to the platform. All it takes is a single upvote to objectively say value was added for someone that deemed it such.

The existence of central repository for movie trailers is unique

Google movie trailers. How are you unique? Name one thing you do extra/better than any of the other central repositories of movie trailers?

You have put way more effort into these comments defending yourself, why not channel that energy into contributing?

All it takes is a single upvote

I would agree if it was not for the fact there are so many automated and sock puppet upvotes and comments.

I'm talking about legit people leaving comments and/or upvoting. Not just socks and bots. I'm glad we can agree there is some value added then.

Sigh you do you. Just don't complain when people point out how laughably bad your content is and flag it down when you clearly have the capability to actually make it worthwhile, you just choose not to.

I think what's happening here is that everyone more or less thinks it's fine you share trailers and articles, but the reward for doing so was simply too much considering the level of effort. Curating trailers or copying most of an article and "quoting it" isn't at all difficult or represent something original.

He flagged and censored posts that weren't even promoted. He runs a bot that's accusing me of a scam on every post. I think it's reasonable to say he's become abusive.

You could just stop reposting other people's content, which in of itself is abusive of the original creator - since they're not being compensated - and of the network. You're not going to find a sympathetic ear here and it's not censorship. Your posts are still visible.

The original creator's published their videos on a platform that encourages and facilitates sharing. They have setup their account to enable this type of activity.

Why do you say the posts are still visible? They are all currently hidden. His screenshot is a lie he didn't scroll down to show all the posts he had already flagged and then flagged all the posts he used in teh screen shot right after. He flagged them down to nothing just like he did in the past. Go look for yourself @movietrailers

I may not have your sympathy but let's at least get the facts straight. He's been censoring the account.

Because I can unhide them. They're still on the network. Maybe to you that's a distinction without a difference, but to social media it's all the difference in the world when it comes to the concept of censorship. Unlike Facebook, your posts can never actually be deleted. I know the trailers have been put up to share, but if that's where you're coming from you should decline the payouts for at least some of your content. Sharing for the sake of sharing and profiting are different animals.

I can understand your distinction on censorship but I believe you also understand my view that it does amount to a form of censorship. I would also like to point to his auto spamming all the posts making false accusations.

I don't mean to be going in circles with you, because I can sense your frustration and I totally get it. Being flagged into oblivion is more like a form of public shaming. They're not kicking you out or shutting you up, but they are taking the monetary award away and publicly saying they disapprove of your behavior, which I also understand.

If what you want is respect and rewards here on the network, it's going to require reworking some of your material. That's not that bad of a punishment.

If what you're saying is true - regarding his bot spamming - then that too should be brought to light and stopped.