So recently we had a new member show up. She is getting flagged. Im sure everyone knows about it at this point so im not going to talk much about her but focus on the flaggots that are flagging her posts out of opinions.
Now I have no problem with the ignorant comments they leave as I feel everyone should have the right to free speech no matte how retarded I think they are but when they start flagging because they don't "like" a post or disagree with it I start getting pissed.
So it is time for me once again to do what I do best on steemit, make some flaggot posts to point out the flaggots to all of steemit and making fun of them. This was not a simple task considering how many upvotes this girl gets. had to croll back prity far in her steemd to find the flaggots but I did it.
if someone is flagging people and it is not for copypasta or child porn is it not considered abuse and harassment?
So here they are in no order.
@hajevoy60
and yet he posts stuff like this.
https://steemit.com/steemitphotochallenge/@hajevoy60/steemitphotochallenge-19-entry-lovers-on-a-wild-beach
its a post with a pict and that's it. look at the pict. its worse then anything in the introduce post he flagged.
next
@stephen-somers
the wallet history for this person is really weird. they must win every game that anyone makes every day. looks fishy to me but I don't know enough about the odds of winning every game I enter for days on end from the same peoples games over and over daily.
but yeah pure flaggot
next we have
This fucker hasent even made a single post.
If you look at the 5 comments made on this account it is easy to see it is someones sock puppet account they made to flag people with. They are saying they will flag any post she makes. this is not a friend to free speech.
LOL the level of retard is almost funny with this one. sorryi know its wrong to laugh at the handicapped but you got to admit its funny that this person thinks they are getting "psychologically molest me by showing me their private parts, which is not that different of a thing when it's on the Internet" cause you know, not like they clicked the post and looked at it all before scrolling to the bottom and commenting and flagging. LMFAO!
next we have
@cameron-here
this dude is writing about how to keep a good rep but is actin a fool. He should try to come of as less of a censorship Nazi if he doesn't want a bad reputation. let alone if you look at his history on steemd he is a crazy flaggot in some flaggin wars it looks like.
may be he should re read his old post.
next we have
@geny
this one might b another sock puppet account. only one comment and one post ever.
Yeah this person made a post 4 months ago, came back to flag a post then disappears again. I call bullshit.
next we got
@lawofattraction
this one looks like someones bot account. It has never done anything but upvote people, well besides the one downvote.
never posted or commented or anything.
Maybe you can figure out whos bot it is. LOL
next we have
@cathynsons
another person with no posts trying to force people to post what she likes by way of flags.
what is up with al the crap accounts that don't post shit flagging people?
lets see who is next
@justiceforall
this person has declaired a flag war on porn. I hope all the porn addicts give him the war he wants.
this is a person that brags aout how they road rage and honk at everycar they see driving. also someone that wants to ignore all the information out on pizzagate but they sure have a problem wih legal chicks getting nekkid. maybe they are trying to cover up or pizza gate and flagging alexa because they are really pedosnd they are pissed alexa is over 18. also stop referring to yourself as Barbie. fucking swear.
next we have
@sokoloffa and @artem-sokoloff
This might look like a normal couple but they aren't. they like to go around and bully people off of steemit if they don't like what the person is posting. but they have no problem making posts about guns and fake monopoly money. This one I really don't get. just go back to your travel posts and leave everyone else alone if you don't want to look at theirposts. -smfh-
another
@sigmajin
now this mother fuckr has a good amount of steem power. weird that he is also from las vega and downvoting alexa, maybe jelous or maybe she called him a flaggot irl at a casino, idk but I do know here is titties and ass all over the lpace in vegas as I lived there a bunch (also moving back soon) so I don't understand how ass and titties deserve flagging from him.
that's a lot of steem power o be flagging people with for no reason.
next is
@gliten
this person i don't even get, they make posts about pin up girls, comment on posts with nude chicks in the picts about how they love the post but then go and flag someone because they say they do porn and of porn?
they say they want
next
@neil-rothbard
ok now look at what this person says on the post in the comment and remember when reading it he is one of the flaggers. LOL
pretends he cant understand why she is getting flagged but at the same time flags her.
and last but not least
@stellabelle
now we all know stella has lost it after the trump election. with that whole fuck white people ost and so on she has just been going own hill and fast. its sad tbh. but now to flagg someone with the amount of steem power she has.
That is so much steem power she can kill alexas pay outs. She just came back after a bit gone because of her last frekout. I don't like the idea of someone a warped and unstable with that much power . she can seriously destroy steemit with her flagging if she wanted.
Well good night steemit. hope you all put the word out about the flaggots out flagging new members.
3am
crap lost track of time.
I rarely flag posts. IN fact, even though you call me a fucker and a flaggot in this post, I am not going to flag it.
I flagged alexa's post not because I dont think she ought to be allowed to post pornography, but because of her stated intnetion to deliberately circumvent the NSFW filter.
Her stated position is clear. She doesnt like the NSFW filter, so shes going to circumvent it.
I think people ought to be able to post porn if they wish to do so, but i don't think it ought to be inflicted on people who aren't looking to see it. As long as it is, intend to flag it if i see it.
Yeah your right that was a bit trollish the way he said that. The thing is the NSFW filter is flawed because it literally takes it off the steemit.com website; Which makes it only view able by using TOR. If she put it under the NSFW filter it will cause it to were she wont even be able to look at it.
Really developers are working this out right now. In time they will make a check box for turning adult content on or off. Until then just don't open post that say NSFW.
IIUC, posts tagged NSFW are visible to people looking at the NSFW tag... which is the way it ought to be. for example there are many first-tagged nsfw posts in here https://steemit.com/created/nsfw
What we have is opt-in system, where you have to go looking in the "back room of the video store" if you want to see the porn.
What alexa seems to want is an opt-out system, where people have to ask not to have porn show up on their feed and she can spam everyone else.
Yeah but if were really honest here that is a form of censorship. Since the newsfeed is actually being divided, that is segregation; Segregation is a form of censor ship of a certain thing. Racism is a form of censorship of a certain color of skin or a nations personalities. Again the internet does not have this.
The "back of the room of the video store" is the old days when porn was segregated (AKA Censorship) from the rest of mainstream society. It's 2016, half the internet is filled with porn, the internet does not have segregation/censorship, I would like to keep it that way.
If everyone had the power to censor or put one part of the internet in the "back of the room" then the internet would be censored as fuck! That is what a fantasy is, a distorted reality. Filters are fine, because they are consciously choosing the reality you want to see; That is mastery! Mastery is the mute button or the filter to not see any NSFW material (Still needs to be created by devs)!
Repressing people is what really creates the most danger! Think of what the drug war and prohibition effects were on society! The "wealthiest" people with power of this world already distort reality too much as is.
This is not about just this post that @alexanova made or even about her joining in the first place; This just happened to be the crossroad that brought up this issue. Even having the ability to flag in the first place is already to close to censorship.
But I do believe in respecting each persons creation by giving the credit to it (Copyright). There is such that as a troll that recklessly attack for no reason, so I do believe that people should be able to stop abuse.
Yet even with liking that, I still feel mixed about the ability to flag someone; How easily it could become for individuals to become corrupt with power and abuse the flag system. That is why we need to have a better consensus of the proper way to use the flag system.
It is completely understandable why everyone is using the flag just based on there perspective of right and wrong.
oh so you feel porn is ok to post as long as the posters post never comes up on feeds?
well i want any post that has the letter "R" in it hidden, because of r"reasons" and fweelings". you have a mute button, what people want to tag their posts with is their choice. if i want to post pornpicts and use the tag news or politices i should be able to as maybe my art has the tags as part of it.
none the less, you are saying
So you are saying you are ok with porn if no one can see it. well that's fucking retarded flaggot bullshit. don't click the link and don't scroll through the post. mute the people you don't want to see.
The fact of it all is i don't care about the porn, i care that the point of this site is freedom of speech and no censorship. The flags proves that not to be true and the moment it is a fact that steemit is pro censorship we will watch it die with in a week or 2.
When i first showed up it was flagging for using curse words, then it was "this or that" and so on. next wee it will be people that say bad stuff about religion or people that don agree on safe schools and brain washing kids.
You cant pick and choose who gets censored and when, its either freespeech or censorship. cant have both.
flagged for personal insults and profanity
that said
theres a big difference. If you don't get it, i dont know what to tell you.n I really can't explain it any more simply than i already have.
No, porn shouldnt be visible to users not looking specifically for it.
Oh I see your friends with beanz. tell her I said hi and that I find it funny that it is the same group of feminist flaggets at it again flagging me.
Good job. this might be more fun then I though.
Gives me a reason to bring up links to all my old posts about beanz and her crew of flaggots.
cheers!
Thanks for pointinout that you are flagging my posts and removing the pay out as you have the most steem power out of anyone that has upvoted my post.
You must be proud of your flaggot self.
LOL
I dont have anything personally against Beanz, though i don't know her very well. I have actually called her out (and others on the steemit abuse channel) on multiple occassions for what i felt was an inappropriate flag.. including that steem stats poster. Ultimately, i have the same problem with beanz and steemit abuse that i have with you -- i don't think either one of you should be able to tell people how to vote.
Just like everyone else, i get to vote on payout. I voted against your post.
I actually have less SP than 5 people who upvoted your post. Normally, my flag would have cost you about a penny out of the 12 cents you made. But since it happened after payout, it didnt even do that.
Yes, i think it is ultimately a positive contribution to the platform to flag material thats harmful. Like profane, personal insults. You shouldnt get to call people faggots or fuckers or things like that. So i guess I am proud of myself. Also, lets face it, im generally awesome.
I have another 60K steem power or so i can bring to bear, that I havent. Because its dickish and because I dont actually have a copy of the CLI running and its not worth the effort to get one up.
I think your sarcasm detector might be broken. It might help if you read the whole debate that led up to the post where i compared myself Jesus.
Obviously, I don't want people to downvote me at all, regardless of the reason. If someone does downvote me (as people have in the past), i might even think they had made a bad decision.
But i certainly think it was their decision to make. If you want to downvote my posts, go right ahead. If you want to encourage others to do so, thats certainly your perogative. If you can do so without using any patently offensive slurs, or saying i should fuck myself, I won't even downvote you when you do it.
That said, i don't think you'll find very much support for purely retributive flagging.
Of course, sooner or later, ill get sick of the high road and start flagging you back just for being you. You can't very well start a dick punching contest and not expect to get punched in the dick.
gold!
Keep going and bragging about all this. I love it.
You start posts out saying people say your like jesus and you say stuff like
LMFAO!!!
So keep it up proving my point more and more. or maybe run back and edit it all. lol
fuck your steem power, it means nothing to me. I find it pathetic you even bragg about it like I should tremble in fear from it.
So it is a vote, not a flag used for copypasta or child porn or tag abuse only and we can use it in subjective ways? Are you saying it is ok for everyone to flagg you for subjective reasons?
Please say yes as I have never had some one give me permission on the block chain to have open session on there posts with flags let alone telling all of steemit to go crazy with flags on your posts over subjective "reasons". I would be in awe if that is what you are advocating for.
I doubt it though as im sure you know as well as I do that you dontwant people flagging you over subjective reasons.
or maybe you do, fucked if I know anymore with the shit I have seen on steemit. im not talking about porn either.
nope no difference, you are flagging out of opinion. something subjective.
No posts with the letter "R" sould be visible unless they are looking for it.
Stupid logic.
-smfh-
no posts with the letter "R" is an entirely arbitrary distinction. Porn is not. Its been recognized as a special case by the supreme court, and by most websites and publishers.
Basically what youre saying is that because anyones' opinion is subjective, then no one should be allowed to vote their opinion. I disagree.
If you wanted to downvote any posts with the letter R in the title, incidentally, i would support your right to do so. But id also do my best to vote in opposition to make sure no ones posts were hidden because of it.
To you, like and dislike of porn is subjective just as like an dislike of the letter "R" is subjective. They hold the same weight as something to censor if it is subjective. Some people find curse words bad, some don't. Some think talking bad about religion is wrong, also subjective.
You keep calling it a vote. and now you just saidyou think I should be able to flag every post with an r in it.
Thank you for giving me my favorite quote from you yet.
You are trying to start flag wars with the rhetoric you preach. its funny as hell.
Also refer to my reply about calling and acting like it is a down vote and not a flag.
also, she learned her lesson about the tags and isn't doing that any more. to continue flaging when it is not misuse of tags, not copy pasta and not illegal content like murder or child porn then it is censorship for something subjective like offence from the letter "R". Just as retarded as flagging for curse words.
Fuck off with that noise.
As far as im concerned, any NSFW post that appears on the trending page (which is the landing page for potential new users) falls under the classification of "intentionally miscategorized"
what if the first pict isn't nsfw and it says it in the title? one would have to click the post to see it. Also it wouldn't be on the landing page unless people wanted it there with the upvotes.
Why is "intentionally miscategorized" a problem?
I think people should be able to tag what ever they want but I do agree it would be for the best if people tagged correctly. At the same time if you make your first tag nsfw is basically invisible to anyone that is not already following. no way to get new followers if that is the case. again falls under censorship imo.
a post that lands on the trending page should be there as proof that its about actual trending posts. so now you are telling me all the tag feeds are censored of anything that has nsfw in the first tag. damn censorship up thass for a site that claims to be censorship free.
i never thought i'd want to burn the flag.
LOL!
Boo!!!!! If you don't like something leave it be...Just keep scrolling! We DO NOT need censorship...especially from self-righteous hacks! Here's another meme for this...
LMFAO!
Thanks for calling me a cunt, fuckface!
You are Todd?
Must be, I was just talking about internet censorship in general! I guess if the shoe fits...
Little touchy there snowflake???
Sarcasm sorry.
I wasn't talking about you specifically...and I apologize for calling you snowflake! Friends?
Thanks for the mention @skeptic , to be fair I have flagged very few posts in my 5 months on Steemit. A couple by accident because of the page layout on my phone and I believe I rectified all those I became aware of , others that are blatant attacks on others and some blatant plagiarism or extream xxx pornography which I doubt is their own work and not attributed. I would like to know any user that has left Steemit because of my actions as I have done my best to encourage many people to join and look forward to them sharing their knowledge and stories. I see you have an issue of seeing flagging a post as censorship., maybe it is but Steemit is a community that uses upvoted to support content it sees as valuable and flags to push down on content which the reader find unacceptable, both of which are personal choice and your calling me out is as much censorship is as me flagging something I find disagreeable.
As for my luck, I assure you that is what it is. I try to enter as many times as possible and it is a 50/50 chance in most cases.
Thank you for making Steemit a more diverse place.
How was it plagiarism or extreme porn whatsoever??
It's my content, that I own, and what I posted was far from 'extreme'.
@alexanova. I'm sorry if that is true. Since the content has been removed I can't see what it was, but for me to flag it I must have been shocked.
why don't you just mute me @Stephan-somers ?
if the content I post is too 'extreme' for you.
I see the content has been reposted with a more suitable first image. I have no issue with the new post and have not flagged it. Just Be aware that not everyone wants to see that first image over their breakfast but properly formatted many people will click through. Ultimately it will be the community that supports or ignores content. I wish you success.
Well I am new here, so I wasn't aware I shouldn't do that, until I did.
So my mistake, and I fixed it as soon as someone mentioned that I shouldn't do that. >_> but go ahead and think I did that on purpose. Thanks I guess. But wishes of success from you are rather useless to me, seeing as you won't remove your flag even though, I corrected what you had an issue with.
Okay, bye. Have a nice life.
You must shock pretty easily!
It was the same content that I reposted in my NSFW Alexa Nova- Owen Gray POV post. I just deleted content from two of my posts because I didn't use the tags I meant to the first couple times. It is definitely nothing extreme, unless you consider 'a big dick in a vagina' extreme... xD there wasn't even anal or any kind of bdsm involved. So I'm really amazed you found that 'extreme'.
Unfortunately the system will not allow me to remove the flag on the post now as the payout time has passed. I did go and try remove it.
Oh, alright then. Thanks anyways.
I think it is awesome you fixed the flags you did by accident and the plagiarism i could care less about. flagging posts becayse they are "blatant attacks" or porn is wrong and it i flagging out of opinion. if there was a down vote that would be one thing or leaving your thought in the comments but flagging is fucked up. She has made a video proving who she is, also look at the freckle on the left side of he nose if you don't think its her. Its noby making statements and claims like that you hold the burden of proof. if you ca not provide evidence to prove what you are saying i can dismiss it with no evidence. so please provide the citation and if it is not her work then maybe i might change my mind.
Because you are flagging a new user because you don't like the content of their posts word gets spread, i have watched many people leave after the big influx from twexit and 80%+ left because the flagging. the more word spreads that flagging is a problem the more people stop wanting to join. you are making people think this site is not really uncensored by your actions. hence you are making steemit lose users in the way that they might leave because they witness what is going on and want nothing to do with steemit. did u notice the huge jump in value when she showed up and how it started dropping when people started shitting on her? not saying they are connected but it is a bit of a warning of whats going on right now.
yes flagging someone because you find them disagreeable is wrong and censorship. does that mean i and everyone else should be able to flag your work because we find you disagreeable? no. just mute the person if you don't want to see their stuff.
i believe you on the luck of the games, i have no clue about them tbh. i see a lot of scams come and go so im always weary.
I feel the same, thank you 2. just please stop with the flagging. it does no good for anyone, not even you or me.
:/
There is a downvote. ALthough its represented graphically as a flag on this UI, on the blockchain its a downvote.
Are you retarded?
the flag is for stoping iligal content,not as a way to show you don't like something. the name of the icon you click to use it does not change what it does and what it was made for. the only reason the flggots get away with it is because the rest of steemit doesn't want to flag. gaurentee if everyone turned around and flagged back th flaggots wouldn't last long but that's not what is needed. what is needed is a downvote button for flaggot bitchez so they can click something to show their dis like without hurting someones rep/ pay out ect.
the flag is for copy pasta, child porn, picts and posts of rape or illigal actions. not because you don't like something.
by supporting flagging you are supporting the death of steemit.
good job ass hole!
No thats not what its for. Its for downvoting content that has a negative or undesirable effect on the platform. Just because you arbitrarly decided that you don't want it to be used that way, doesnt mean that people arent allowed to.
I, for example, am flagging the above for personal insults and profanity.
I get to decide what my vote says in negative or undesirable. Like i said, im going to vote my conscious. And, no im not going to remove my flag based on threats, homophobia, profanity and name calling. If you want to keep callling me names and telling me to fuck off, thats certainly your right. But my response is going to be a flag every time.
And that is abuse of the flag system. it is for illegal content and copy pasta.
You can remove the flags or I will just put you on blast in my next flaggot post for acting like a flaggot.
You are not the person that gets to decied on what is "negative or undesirable" so fuck off with your bullshit.
I find your stance on censorship "negative or undesirable" so by your standards do I have the right to flag you?
With the mentality you have I'm thinking you might be happier in a place where people hold the same values as you on censorship. I think its called twitter or facebook or something.
So cheers flaggot and I look forward to you removing the flags or the later encounter we have after I make a post about you and your flaggotness of magnitude.
This is amazing! xD Thank you for writing this for me!!
<3
was more for me but im glad you enjoyed it.
truth is your posts have become my new favorite thing on steemit. not cause theporn either (even though its hot) but the comment section is so amazing with the stupid people.
Don't think there is a better comment section on steemit.
xD
Thank you for pointing out the small mindedness and hypocrisy. Some people think freedom only applies to people they agree with. They need to get a dictionary. As long as it is marked NSFW and it is legal they should not be flagging. It is a form of discrimination really. Many of the flagged posts didn't actually even have any porn in them.
Some people think freedom only applies to people they agree with. -----
-good point, well said, I said similar in my comments. Your input on them would be nice actually -- I appreciate your work and thoughts.
Thanks - I'm pretty sure I've talked about this kind of thing before but if it keeps happening I might do it again.
I crack up when i think of all the feminists trying to slut shame a chick.
Its sad and pathetic what they are doing.
All i can think of is the Betamax vs. vhs idea.
beta was better but vhs had porn so beta dies out just like blue ray disks and hddvd. porn came on blue ray so hddvd died out.
You seriously think sony could control what got recorded on betamax tapes? Or that toshiba could control what got distributed on HD-DVD. I mean seriously did you even take a half a second to think critically about what you were writing. because its pretty absurd (and also patently untrue).
Betamax died because, although it provided slightly better playback, machines were way more expensive and for most of the time betamax was in production, tapes could only record an hour of programming (vhs started at 2 hours).
By the time sony pulled their head out of their asses and managed to increase playback length, it was already too late.
Blu-ray is just superior to HDDVD. More storage, all the consoles adopted it. Literally nothing to do with porn. Beyond absurd to suggest it was.
I have not said Sony controled what was put on the disks or tapes, only that because porn came out on the other formats they then won the format wars.
You must live in a world of denial. do a little research, porn had a lot to do with it. Can you give me one format that died out because they were the main carrier of porn? or are we just negating that whole side of the facts because it does not fit your narrative? I would think if your argument was true you could show an example that fits in the same catagory that shows that porn is not a influence on it.
Calling it absurd and untrue, I would like citation please showing it is untrue after that I would love to hear how it is "absurd" as again this is another one of your negative vague subjective terms that means nothing except "fweelings".
you even say it twice, next you gona say its "fake news". LOL
If anything it is "Beyond absurd to suggest" it had nothing to do with any of it.
You're the one making an affirmative claim (with zero evidence), i should think its on you to prove that porn had a significant impact on the emergence of blu-ray and vhs as a dominant format. SO you say something idiotic, and if i can't prove the negative, its true. Nice try.
Youre making a spurious correlation. Yes, HD-DVD and betamax died. And yes, both had less porn on them than Blu-ray and VHS.They also probably had less sci-fi. And fewer romantic comedies. There were probably also fewer documentaries. BEcause fewer movie studios used it. Because of the length issues (see size does matter) and because more people owned the (cheaper) VHS format players.
That is to say, the serious problems with the format caused them to have less porn (and everything else) and also caused them to fail. You are making an argument to causation --- that betamax was less friendly to porn and that made it less appealing which ultimately led to them losing the video cassette market. However, the only reason there was less porn on beta was because there was less everything, because it was already losing the format war.
Same with HDDVD and Blu-ray. Yeah, there was less porn. There were also less video games, less non-porn movies less everything.
Your argument is as ridiculous as saying "Well there was less porn in the soviet union, thats why it failed" Yes, america did have more porn. And also more of everything else. The soviet union had less because of its many fundamental problems. The paucity of porn was an effect, not a cause.
replying here due to nesting:
Im not really sure what you want me to say that i haven't said already. My response now is the same as it was 23 hours ago, when you asked and I responded:
https://steemit.com/flaggot/@skeptic/mass-flaggot-post#@sigmajin/re-sigmajin-re-skeptic-re-sigmajin-re-skeptic-re-sigmajin-re-skeptic-mass-flaggot-post-20161210t080907155z
im not really sure how much clearer I can make it.
Yes it is silly.
There are some post with full nudity on steemit which are not flagged. Nudity and sexuality is OK, porn isn't. This people live by it's own rules of mainstream society, and they discriminate the people who does not accept it. Porn is not the thing they hate. Really, they don't want pornstars and other "bad people" were part of the steem society.
bullshit, they are both ok on steemit.
fuck your idea of society if it is full of censorship.
you do not control steemit and the people that want it here ordont care if it is here outnumber you 12-15 people that are crying like little 3yr olds.
use the fucking mute like a big kid and grow the fuck up.
the society you are talking about is already out there, think its called facebook or twitter where censorship runs rampet. maybe you would be happier in a place like that where people hold the same values as you because this site it about freedom of speech and anti-censorship, don't like it, then GTFO.
Also its funny that your a new account trying to change the whole of steemit.
so whos sock puppet account are you?
O.o
Why so serios? Are you stop reading post on the first sentence which initiate your butthurt?
You are namefag? I am newhere, because this soc. network does not look decentralized. It more like another cryptocurrency with soc. network as a feature. Investors want to see a pretty-looking site with no bad things like porn, drugs, other darknet stuff or anything which is prohibited in any country around the world. Because if steemit were kicked from clearnet, STEEM price will go down. How steemit can be uncensored.
Steem could be kicked off the net now since UN controls it. But it's vanishingly unlikely. They tried to ban file sharing too.
How would i be kicked off the net? Can the UN censor the blockchain? I don't think it can; Wouldn't someone else just make another mirror of steemit?
that's why I say vanishingly unlikely. I am a veteran of thehive... nearly nothing was lost when it was shut down. The conversation moved to new venues.
the moment censorship starts happening on steemit watch it crumble to shit.
That's what 80% of the people that showed up from twexit left. because of flaggots trying to act like they are the controller of steemit.
Use the fucking mute button or don't click on the post if you don't like it.
Yeah, people would just make mirrors of the website, since it is connected to the blockchain. So unless the internet is able to be fully completely under a dictor like korea, there is no way to block it.
You may enjoy Who Wants To Be A Down Voter...
that is fucking awesome!
im following now.
xD
Good investigation, I think it's good for people to be known and held accountable for their flags. I don't like how steemit doesn't make it obvious who the person was who flagged, should not be neccasary to have to go through steemd.
I respect people more when they flag and then comment (even if i disagree with their flagging policy) vs. the anon flaggers who try to hide what they did.
The last time i flagged a post (for what i felt was exceptionally low quality content), one of the whales who supported the poster flagged my explanation. Im not really looking to leave myself open to that sort of retribution.
Mmmm Yeah I never thought of that, but yes your right that is a serious backlash (probably more than deserved) . But This is the problem with flagging for personal opinions because someone will always have the opposite opinion. I personally feel flags are misused so much that I believe very little actually really deserves a flag.
Im glad you enjoyed it, it had been a bit sence i had made a post about the flaggots. i enjoyed it.
The flagging system is the main downfall of steemit andit is the reason i feel steemit will fail.
look whats happening to youube after they gave the power to (flag) censor videos to the people that use it. it has been complete madness and youtube is dying and fast. same thing with twitter, they tried to implement a censorship program and ever sence they did its been dying like crazy.
I tried to talk about it, post about, yell about ect when everyone wa leaving after the huge influx of users from twexit. i have also been flagged by dan when making posts about the problems with flagging. he didn't respond with text, or an arugment, just a flagg
The level of ignorance coming from the pro flaggers is insane, wait till they start getting flagged, then they gona be crying about how the flagging system sux.
Its not a good look for steemit, as word spreads about the flagging less and less people are going to want to join, as we have watched in the past happen.
imo atleast
I must disagree with you there. The flagging system has a purpose and a place for when it should be used. Recently someone was caught for plagiarism and because of the flag system the group of people were able to only flag the posts that had been plagiarized. After this moment he has since apologized and is trying to make right for his wrongs.
I do agree that flags can drive off users and that their needs to be a better consensus on how to use the flag ability! Yeah, If people with high steempower that have the ability to flag something to oblivion I do believe that they should have the decency to leave a comment on why they are doing that.
Well the thing is the topic needs to be approached in a diplomatic type of way. If it is approached from a perspective of Us vs then that will and has been the war that you are describing/experiencing.
It not a good look when it seems like a lot of users are fighting each other, but at the same time If we are to be able to work together despite our difference and come up with a solution that works for all of us that would be incredible! That would give steemit the best image of all!
That is the correct use of the flag, it is not there to flag stuff you don't like.
Agreeded.
Divide and conquer, its not a good thing. My main point is this site cant be "no censorship" if it is censoring stuff one group dislikes. People that disagree with it should be talking about it not trying to censor the people. that is not going to do any good, it is only trying to shut down the conversation imo.
Again I totally agree, the people that are flagging need to leave comments or make posts about it. they should form an argument and put it in the free market place of ideas. The best cure for bad ideas is sunlight and by censoring stuff, it is only pushing it back into the dark.
Hopefuly people can stop with the flagging and actually try to have some open discourse. It is the only way things will move forward imo.
Indeed, so it is hard to say that the flag is bad all together!
Yeah, I agree. It needs to be less opinionated! I think there should really be a flag tutorial upon sign up!
Yeah, an explanation is needed! Otherwise it creates confusion; Like smacking a kid and not telling him why (I Believe it is wrong to hit kids, just the analogy I thought of). Yeah censorship creates control!
I think it will eventually come to an end when and if devs implement a "how to use the flag" introduction!
I know its wrong but im cracking up over the thought of smacking a kid and not telling him why.
xD
Mmmm interesting I did not know youtube implemented a flagging system.
Yeah sometimes it is hard to get the word out about certain thing. I am still just wanting a separate resteem tag. when I get that I will be soooo happy ^_^
yeah it is esspecially weird when I high rep and SP power user does that without an explanation. It really doesn't set a good example if he is supposed to be teaching other the dos and dont's on steemit.
All of it is indeed a fine line. I really think the introduction screen when you are creating a new peofile should give better explanation to the flag system and a tutorial.
youtube calls it the "youtube heros" and you get points for taking dowm videos and the more you flag the more points so u level and new levels give new and more powerful flagging options. they even give a "mass flagging" power once you reach a certin level so you can wpe out full channels. Everyone for about 6 months or so have bn looking for a new platform but nothing that could compete has shown up yet.
I am waiting for the day when someone gets all of their followers to attack someone and then continue to sick them all on e next person that says anything about it.
LOL flag wars will be starting soon if I get conformation that it is a vote not a flag like some say.
In fact, shit should start making guilds now. start preppin for the war. I all of a sudden see this as a war game if the flag is a vote not a flag.
:O could be fun killing some epic level dragons (flaggots).
hmm
this could get very interesting quick.
xD
Its happened before. A few times. I was one of the people that said something about it at the time. FOrtunately, i think the main people responsible have grown out of it.
Basically, youre assuming that users are going to be willing to flag someone just because you tell them to. I think youll find thats not the case. I think you would also find that there would be more than a few big whales that came out in defense of users that were targeted in this way.
Ah are you claiming part of the doxing that happened to those people too, cause that group of people doxed and released information and were calling u his parents and leaving death threats and calling his job and fucked u shit.
Or are you only talking about all the other times the supper flaggots got taken out? maybe the guy trying to point out the problems with the flagging system that people wouldn't talk to and only silenced his account so people wouldn't be able to hear him talking about the flagging problems?
As for people flagging because I said so, interesting idea. I have been thinking of treating this site like a strat war game. could be fun.
I am still waiting for a reply on the comment I made after you told me I should go flag ever post with an "R" in it and that its a downvote not a flag.
Please respond to that or you have made your whole argument void as you want to be able to do stuff to others that you don't want done to your self.
I am going to start copying and pasting that response to you for anything you send me till you answer it. and if you stop replying to the argument I will be making tht very clear in the post im gona to make about this all.
Cant wait for you to stop trying to dodge and actually backing up your claims. even looking forward to you clairfiying this situation with the flags as I m going to use your response as how I use the flaging system. yeah, ts the one you haven't replied to yet, im waiting for an answer.
Ok that youtube thing is pretty weird. It is like leveling up your dark powers until you can wipe out mini universes. .
but I still believe that steemit is better than that and in time devolop will create modifications that promote using the flag properly rather than promoting abuse like you tube has done.
There no need to prepare for guild wars if devs can develop a system that promote more maturity!
I think it would become fun to treat this site like a strat war game.
we could all upvote (train) with each other to raise our levels (rep) and all go after targets as a group taking down the strongest dragons (Flaggots) on the server.
IDK, could end up as a game and not just posting.
also its only a matter of time till someone makes a 100bot army to flag people.
LOL
I literally almost threw up from laughing so hard at your one meme above with NINE! NINE! in it and the german stuff that followed. Dying.
I honestly had to take off my glasses, and wipe away tears for almost 5 mins and actually couldn't see straight, I am trying to not have to stop typing again and take the laptop off my lap, honestly. I cannot remember the last time I LOL'd that hard and nearly choked man, seriously.
So, there's that.
Next, I may not agree with what people believe or post etc but I will not flag them for free speech and expressing themselves. That is coming from an activist standing up for civil rights in #Canadastan for many years now.
I am waiting for my stalkers to show up on here and continue to harass me, like they have done trespassing on my land, threatening me online and lying about me, simply because I distanced myselves from them in my town for their erratic and creepy behaviour -- after I warned them to please stop, it was childish and scaring residents.
IDK how I am gonna deal with them, but when free speech just means lying or harming someone, something needs to be done. Up to that point, the govt's and police states already target us enough as it is.
My 2¢
Thanks again for the LOL, some of your memes you do and posts you make are really really something else lol.
Im glag you enjoyed it.
That's fucked up about the stalkers.
If we cant have open discourse then the next step is physical violence.
:/
You are basically saying what we are seeing today with that with gov't to the T. --
Yeah its shitty and getting worse fast.
:(
Hah! It's like 4chan has arrived at Steemit.com
Thank you for posting @skeptic.
The issue is the material is not suitable for those under the age of eighteen....what can Steemit do to catagorize the NSFV material and keep Steemit clean enough for parents to be comfortable with their charges/children on Steemit.
Ideally...it could be an app for 18+
or set aside as separate category entered into by code.
It is controversial....therefore it does need to be addressed either by the community or by the leaders.