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RE: THE EOS.IO BLOG HAS MOVED

in #eos7 years ago

It isn't right for anyone to upvote content that is spam/low effort and make lots of money. If the content is a well thought out comment with depth to it that adds to the conversation and you upvote it so that it rises to the top and people see it, something like that is perfectly fine in most people's eyes. Sometimes when you comment on something your response goes to the bottom because other people's comments are upvoted and yours isn't. Upvoting yourself in that regard to get attention because you want people to see what you add to the conversation and you think it is important they see it.

Now if you are just making comments all the time and upvoting them(regardless of if the content is good or not) then you are draining the rewards pool on spam comments. There isn't an unlimited number of Steem payouts. The rewards pool is what pays us all, if lots of people upvote themselves for spam comments eventually so many people will be doing that and taking the rewards away from the entire community. There are times when the rewards pool of Steem goes down by a lot due to bad actors, those bad actors are then found out by the whales and the whales will downvote bad actors so they don't get any rewards ever again.

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Now if you are just making comments all the time and upvoting them(regardless of if the content is good or not) then you are draining the rewards pool on spam comments.

And who exactly is judge and jury on what is, or isn't a good comment... a slippery slope you walk indeed my friend.

This is kind of right but mostly wrong, IMO.

Minnow spam isn't "reward pool rape". Frankly that is just a buzzword people use now to mean they feel they deserve that money.

Spam causes a problem on the resources required to run the blockchain. It has very little to do with depleting the rewards. As a witness when I see users spamming bloat into the blockchain, I often make it harder for them to continue.

Minnows self voting, or whales, doesn't bother me, and probably many others, very much. But like I said before anyone has to right to do as they please with their power. Which includes downvote, upvote, or spam. Just because you have the right to do it doesn't mean I don't have the right to attack it.

But like I said before anyone has to right to do as they please with their power. Which includes downvote, upvote, or spam.

That's another thing I believe the original anti-self-commentor failed to mention is that we only have so many votes per-day, which is part of the genius of Steemit, if there was no limit, then the whales would all be trillionaires!

Right, I fully understand we have a limited amount of votes per day, same as there is a limited amount of Steem that goes into the reward pool each day. When I look at your comment history I can see you upvote every comment you do, and believe me some dolphin or whale is going to notice you doing it one day and they would go after you. Since it is your right to upvote yourself(you are operating under the rules in this system) and it is their right to downvote you(which is also them operating under the rules in this system).

The only reason I am trying to alert you to this is because I did the same thing and rented steempower. I upvoted myself a ton 8 months ago. Then one day I woke up to someone 80,000 steempower making all my comments/posts go down to 0. There are a lot of tools out there that show who self votes and stuff like that.

I am not telling you what to do or what not to do. I am saying that those rewards you are giving yourself are not infinite, that it takes it out of the reward pool when you do that. Whales doing it is a much bigger problem because other whales need to get involved to nuke the rewards and stop that behavior.

Like I said, the day that happens, is the day I power-down and leave, because there are much bigger fish here on Steemit up-voting themselves thousands of dollars per day, in plain sight mind you, so they should be going after them, or just get rid of self-voting altogether.

I think it's more of a community cultural issue. If we allow spamming to be profitable, the sort of user we'll attract are parasitic spammers. If we attract enough of those they'll bury quality content, waste network resources, and eventually drain rewards and drive investors away.

And why is it necessary to upvote them to 160+ when there's no comment with more than $0.2 upvote...it's very right because he is whale with many accounts? Everybody is hypocrite and they see reward pool rape from minnows because..?
Now I may get downvotes for sharing this SS I don't know. I have already lost fait with this platform anyway.

Did you even click the link in the screenshot you posted. The user is transisto and the explanation for the high upvote is in that link.

That particular user is fighting reward pool "rape" by taking rewards from the pool and giving them DIRECTLY to valuable authors and developers.

One of the best users on this platform, yet you use his actions in a screenshot like they are bad.

Man, I saw it and I just wanted to know why he would upvote it to that much when a or two dollar upvote would take him to the top.
Whatever he does to fight with rewardpool rape, may be its for good but any person like me who doesn't know about much politics on this platform surely get that feeling he is the one raping the reward pool whenever she/she sees his activity.I am not trying to show he's bad,what would i get by doing that? I talk what I see and feel nothing much.You are a witness man, you are a witness, at least try to explain more politely if someone is saying something wrong

may be you guys could make a list of all of your good users with all of his works in a visible page so every new user can see it.