Fortune favors the bold, and I suspect the tides of fate will favor those willing to diversify into EOS early.
After the announcement that Kraken was delisting the EOS/USD (but not /Eth) pair, a violent trading session saw the price move up to a dime in the space of moments, finally bottoming out at 1.2000.
This is near an all-time low for EOS.
EOS is the project Dan Larimer, who I'm sure you know also created Bitshares and Steem, always truly wanted to create. Without getting too technical, it is slated to be very similar to the Ethereum platform, but both faster and with lower fees, due to a much higher transaction rate. Give that scaling is probably the main challenge Ethereum faces going forward, with network congestion and gas prices on the rise in the age of ICOs, EOS could be a massive sleeper. (Ethereum even planning a change to PoS related to this issue, a huge fork.)
Of course, EOS isn't exactly an unknown, sitting near the top of the assets list in market cap:
Aside from the technical reasons, there are a number of good sentiment reasons to pick up EOS now rather than later.
Here's a good one: EOS marketing is everywhere. EOS recently bought out most of the advertising at a blockchain conference, although I failed to take note of which. If one surfs the internet regularly for crypto-news, you will definitely see EOS, possibly as a full-front page splash:
An even better reason is the first EOS test-net is due to go up right around September 20. If you want to take advantage of "buying the rumor, selling the news", then the time to get in would be more than a week or two before when crypto-news sites begin carrying the story.
When asked about EOS at a recent convention, Vitalik Buterin seemed to acknowledge it's legitimacy. @dan made an excellent rebuttal here on Steemit as well, which you can read at this link.
Furthermore, given the structure of the EOS ICO is well known, further dilution via distribution should be accounted for in the market already.
Finally, one great feature that EOS is supposed to have after launch is the ability to lease your tokens/stake to the network for a regular return. I really like coins that utilize this feature, such as Waves (which I've written about here) and in a way, Steem.
There are two ways to get EOS. You can purchase them secondhand at an exchange such as Kraken, or you can contribute to the ongoing ICO which disperses new EOS every day until it has run for 1 year (non-US residents only):
Long-term risk level: Medium-Low. Assuming Dan is not hit by a bus, (not an impossibility) I am confident this project will not become vaporware.
Short-term risk level: Medium-Low. If you are not trying to day-trade, you can rarely go too wrong buying near all-time lows with promising fundamentals.
Suggestion: Pick up a few EOS now and store them safely in with MyEtherWallet. Set a few limit buy orders below market at prices you are comfortable with to add to your position. Hold at least 1 month.
Disclosure: I bought a bunch of EOS on Kraken last night. Feel free to short me if you disagree.
Please let us know in the comments if you have any questions, concerns, or ideas about properly pricing this coin!
Note: The above does not constitute investment advice, and I am not an investment adviser. Do your own due diligence. My returns may not be worth mimicking, so choose to follow my entry points at your own risk. I do not advise trading, but holding coins you believe in off-exchange, preferably on a Ledger Nano S (or better).
Source: Google, Coinmarketcap, Eos.io, Steemit, Cointelegraph, Coindesk, http://www.vincenteverts.nl, Amazon
Yes, this should be a good time to pick up some EOS cheap.
I certainly did so. Hope it pans out.
Buy, hodl, prosper.
Have already bought, am hodling and have great expectations of prospering.
Good article. I am a big supporter of Graphene, EOS and to date everything that Dan has worked on has been brilliant. But I baulked at the high EOS market cap considering it is still basically vapour ware. Been waiting for the hype to die down a bit before investing. To me this is what they intended with such a long ICO window they wanted to allow for proper "Price Discovery" and I think it's happening now as the early hype dies down.
I think you're exactly right. There was a great article talking at length about the game-theory of the long ICO - in short, it was the best way to try to be maximally fair to everyone and reduce volatility.
Thank you for your comment.
Dam, so what the hell, we can't get EOS here in the U.S. buying from the ICO page? Hmm...thats wack. Either way, I've kept an eye on NEOS...I think coin circulation is something to be looked at when determining a coins value. I always say since the market is so new, look at the trend that are already created in the industry. Coins that usually circulate aroun 200,000,000 usually are valued around $1 - $10 us....Just just a trend, not saying theres anything attributed to that...just whats there on coinmarketcap.com as a trend. See for yourself.
Hah, there's so many cryptos now I actually have to ask this question:
"Either way, I've kept an eye on NEOS."
Do you mean NEOS (as in NeosCoin), NEO (as in the chinese Ethererum, formerly Antshares) or EOS?
EOS, sorry bro...yes I meant EOS
This comment string is setting off my "shoeshine boy" alarm.
LOL.
Hi @geechidan yes you can get EOS here in the U.S.
You can buy EOS at Changelly.com -
EOS token is on FIRE - in route to $2500.00 USD after ICO ~! How to buy (outside of ICO) and store EOS with no questions asked!
https://nandibear.com/eos-token-is-on-fire-in-route-to-2500-usd-after-ico-how-to-buy-outside-of-ico-and-store-eos-with-no-questions-asked
Hmm...Do you know anywhere that I can buy Bitcoin with a Visa/Debit that actually makes the process easy to buy in the U.S.
Hey @geechidan yes you can buy Bitcoin with a Visa/Debit card at Coinbase.com.
When it comes to instant buy (bank card/debit card/visa/mastercard) they often verify you automatically with you name and date of birth right when you open your account and you are free to use your card to do instant buys.
In other cases they request that you upload a pic of the back and front of ID and then take a picture of your face. It's verified in 5 minutes or less and then you can do instant buys with you card.
https://www.coinbase.com
Take note, however, that their support is practically non-existent (email only, can take months) and their ID verification can often fail (if you google you'll see it is atrocious.)
I literally had to buy another laptop to get the damn thing to read an ID image.
Take note, however, that Coinbase support is practically non-existent (email only, can take months) and their ID verification can often fail (if you google you'll see it is atrocious.)
I literally had to buy another laptop to get the damn thing to read an ID image.
surpring move to kick EOS, but could be natural according to the lenghty ICO and it's exact in line with Dan's intentition and exchanges concentrate more on exciting high cashflows. Thank you for the tidbit.
They've only kicked the fiat/illiquid pairs. You can still buy it with Bitcoin (at Kraken).
Buy EOS tokens while they still very cheap and just keep holding it till it have pass and beat the Ethereum price!
I'm not sure about the last part (I may get nervous and sell before then), but that's essentially the idea!
Thanks I'm following you how to I buy EOs from the uk what is the easiest way and advice will be appreciate thank you love n light to you with an upvote thanks for the upvote @lexiconical
I think since you are in the UK, you can use the smart contract for the ICO if you like.
Alternatively, you can get it at Kraken, which is where I did.
This is one of the subjects that I can humbly admit I know nothing about. I will have to look into it more. Thank you!
Happy to help! Keep up your reporting!
Thank you, I most certainly will :-)
#197 Dan Larimer: EOS - The Decentralized Operating System: https://epicenter.tv/episode/197/
Kraken's delisting notwithstanding EOS can hit $5 before Q2 of 2018. Let @dan go get it on all of Asia's big three: BTCC, OkCoin and Huobi
As long they continue to focus on creating value, the token price will speak for itself.
Hi @lexiconical you state that - "...Assuming Dan is not hit by a bus, (not an impossibility) I am confident this project will not become vaporware..."
I couldn't agree with you more!
Btw, EOS is now in $1.40s
Ah, thank you for the price update. I'm taking a "buy and forget" approach here. I stashed it on a hardware wallet and I don't want to sell any time soon, even though it's a big chunk of my trading bankroll.
@lexiconical you're welcome!
Damn you Kraken, now where the hell am I supposed to get EOS?
Nevermind, they still have the XBT/EOS pair :)
you can exchange it on the exodus wallet
yes
@drakos
You can buy EOS at Changelly.com -
EOS token is on FIRE - in route to $2500.00 USD after ICO ~! How to buy (outside of ICO) and store EOS with no questions asked!
https://nandibear.com/eos-token-is-on-fire-in-route-to-2500-usd-after-ico-how-to-buy-outside-of-ico-and-store-eos-with-no-questions-asked
I've noticed that most every single recommendation you make calls for a minimum of 100x gain.
You realize you're going to be wrong on almost every one, right? I'm sorry to say it makes you look naively optimistic or a pumper/dumper. I don't think you're the latter, just enthusiastic.
I think you should just delete one zero from any prediction you want to make, for public consumption at least.
You could very well end up being right, but that will probably mean the dollar has lost significant value, ie the denominator is not the same, so it's not a fair comparison. To most people that don't understand (hyper)inflation and seigniorage, it just sounds crazy.
Hi @lexiconical and thanks for your feedback (I appreciate it).
First I just want to say that I am not a "pumper/dumper". I fully advocate BitShares, Steemit and well, we will see about EOS.
Bitshares is THE most technologically advanced decentralized exchange and blockchain which exists today.
The only problem is that Bitshares suffers because its not 'popular' like Ethereum.
People need to get excited about Bitshares and talk more about, and not in boring terms. (And maybe help develop and more user friendly look to it.)
There's nothing wrong with me, or anyone else, writing good things about BitShares, Steemit and EOS (I haven't even written about other altcoins).
Lastly, I've read some of your posts and your technical-analysis.
My first question - What makes technical-analysis (not yours specifically) so significantly great when it more often than not proves to be worthless?
My second question - Have you every heard of the Efficient market hypothesis and do you consider it to be a naive viewpoint or do you have other thoughts on it?
Hi nandibear,
I'm going to reply to you more thoroughly as soon as time permits.
But I do think TA is mostly nonsense. It only kind of works because other traders think it does. A bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Other than trying to locate broad buying and selling regions, I consider it a source, but a dubious one.
My only real point to you is that I think your number estimates are wildly optimistic enough to the point where it may undercut your credibility. Otherwise, you seem quite reasoned. I enjoy your comments.
Hey @lexiconical I appreciate your helpful feedback regarding my writings and being wildly optimistic. Also thanks for your other kind remarks.
It's all true, I appreciate your replies. Tried to respond to your EMH question - in short, it's kind of a joke, isn't it?
Hi nandibear,
This may not be as thorough a response as you'd like, but yes, I'm quite familiar with the EMH. It's total bullshit. In fact, most modern economics is total bullshit (I have a graduate degree in econ).
Basically every single thing they teach you in economics is "ceteris parabis" or "all else equal", which is basically like EMH.
The market is demonstrably not efficient in practice, and even in perfect theory with perfectly rational actors and no collusion or cheating, I doubt it would be "perfectly efficient".
The idea that all market participants would have all information all the time and act perfectly rationally on it is straight up asinine.
The very fact Bitconnect still has a value is proof of this.
Correct, they did not de-list every EOS Pair, just a couple.
If you are investing then diversification is good :-)
But if you are trading then diversification is a killer of profits. My simple (not easy) trading is listed here :
https://steemit.com/trading/@aarcee/bitcoin-btc-usd-trade-profit-booked-today-22-aug-2017
I believe they recommend metamask not MEW
That's correct. MEW is also an option though, particularly for those not using Chrome.
can you explain how you use it with myetherwallet?
You can simply send the tokens to the address of your wallet and they will be held there, like any other token.
I use it with the Ledger Nano S.
Great, thanks!
Upvoted and RESTEEMED :]
Thanks!
Done with EOS, why would an ethereum killer release an ethereum toke. Bad idea from the jump
So they were supposed to have the ICO on the pos blockchain without anyone staking? The only way to do that would have been mining until there are enough people to stake but that would lead to instamining, somewhat like bitshares. This was the best way to do it without controversy.
Look Dan should have launched the ICO on bitshares, the only reason he used an ERC was because it had more exposure. I dont think EOS is going to be unnsucessful but the terms of agreement for investors are a fuckin mess
Agreed on the final part. I think it's to avoid maximum liability, but it would also work if you were trying to scam. I think this is reflected in the price, but maybe the market cap is too high. Nobody can say for sure.
One thing we can say for sure was, if launched on Bitshares, it would be making probably 10% less in raised funds.
It would be making a lot less. There is also conflict of interests, some would say that this is only to gain exposure for bitshares.
One also has to remember that Dan is not the sole decision maker for EOS
Fair points all around. EOS, like any ICO, is risky. Ultimately this is still just a bet on whether the team will deliver. It's total vaporware, at least until test-net launch in September.
Well, the EOS chain doesn't exist yet, so this is a speculative investment on the success of the team.
As others have noted, legally the token entitles you to "nothing". That's why it's a $1.
Ethereum was $1 once too, as was Bitcoin. Similar levels of risk at the time, perhaps.
Not for US Citizens... drama!!!
Only the ICO - still legal to buy on exchanges or elsewhere.
Right!
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The same guy who created Steemit is same guy working on EOS!
Yep, you got it. As you might imagine, he's pretty popular around these parts.
I'm doing research on Bitshares and of course I'm in on Steem. I've also been reading older posts by Dan Larimer here on Steemit. So far, from what I've read, I like his philosophy.
I plan to continue to invest in Steemit, get in on Bitshares and will probably also EOS.
You may like his philosophy, but does the guy ever actually deliver anything? Other than a 66% loss to everyone he tried to push into Bitshares several months ago?
Abandon all faith, ye who enter here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22957.0.html
I'm not sure. I don't know enough about it yet. You are doing really well on Steemit and Dan helped to create that... so maybe that counts. I'm still exploring, as I'm fairly new to the crypto scene.
Very good post!
I bought my EOS at Exodus.
Great post you earned a new follower from @thefollower -_- Like money? Read my blogs for more!
Thank you.