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RE: The Curation and Engagement Leagues ๐Ÿ† - STEEM prizes & steem-bounty available! ๐ŸŽ

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Hey, @abh12345.

For what it's worth, I think the main difference between the top Top 3, Top 10 and top 25 is the amount of time each one has on Steemit, and what they do with that time while they're here. Or maybe better said, what they do either on Steemit or on Discord, or wherever else they may be talking to and collaborating with Steemians.

The reason why I was stepping back was a concern that maybe by having as much time as I did, it would act as a deterrent. However, I don't know if that's even true after stepping away, though my being out did help some people get a little more. In reality, though, it was more or less the same people in the Top 5 taking turns.

We do have a different group of people manifesting in the Top 10 now than were there when I started 14-15 weeks ago, and those folks didn't just get there because of their own time and effort, but also because that of others changed, too. Things tend to wax and wane here as you can well attest to.

Encouraging folks to do a little more will only work if they're able to do it. At the same time, encouraging folks to do little more than what they are doing would seem to be a step backward. It's a balance I guess. In the end, though, if there's a desire to do more on Steemit, it's not going to happen through a lack of engagement. In reality, all of us need to be doing more if we want to reach more people and potentially gain a greater audience and reward on our posts.

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Hi Glen, thanks for the detailed response.

As you know, I did have in mind that something needed tweaking, but as mentioned, I wasn't sure about what to do and where.

I certainly don't want to discourage, but also not give away STEEM for minimum effort.

I think I will add a column this weekend for starters, and see how that works. The scores will again not become comparable to the previous week, but that's the way it goes.

We have a good thing here, and so small changes along the way seems like the best approach.

Cheers!

I don't suppose you'd like to share what that column is going to include? :)

And, there goes my record keeping, too. Oh, well. :)

I'd like to try and measure more 'genuine engagement', and I wonder if this happens (like this conversation), further down the comment thread...

You mean below the 2 x you're already counting? Hmmmm. I guess that could be. I just wonder how many of us are actually getting that far down, and then, if we're doing that, can we be engaging with as many other people as we are now with the 2 x depth in place? Just the thought that pops into my head. Feel free to ignore it.

Another thought that pops into my head. When I first started you had a column for comments on other people's posts, or something like that, which got traded for the 2 x level. I wouldn't mind seeing that come back, personally, whatever it was, and still keep the 2 x level since you're talking about adding a column (which I guess I might be mistakenly thinking to mean keeping the rest of the columns and adding one moreโ€”if not, don't listen to what I just said about the additional column. :)

For what it's worth, I think the main difference between the top Top 3, Top 10 and top 25 is the amount of time each one has on Steemit, and what they do with that time while they're here.

@glenalbrethsen, I think that's an important piece of perspective for everyone in the leagues. Some of us are sporadic part timers... aside from creating a top level post (which can take a couple of hours, or more) I'm only on here "10 minutes here and 20 minutes there" in the course of a day. Sure, it adds up... on the other hand, I'd say a couple of days a week I may not check in more than just ONCE in the morning.

My point being, it's not reasonable and fair to compare that to someone who can basically sit at the keyboard 16 hours a day. Similarly, if I ever get into the top-25, it's not going to be a product of my "caring" more than I currently do, it's going to be because I had a couple of days off.

Thanks for bringing that up!

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Yep. Not fair to compare. It's barely even fair to compare what some people can do in those 16 hours with what others manage to do with it. So, time is equal and it's not fair to compare, it holds that people with less time at some point aren't going to be able to accomplish as much. I know there are at least a few people who are able to do a lot in a very short period of time, but even they must be up around five to six hours a day, at minimum.

Popping on and off at ten to twenty minute intervals during the day would be very hard for me, so I can only imagine what's going on in the course of your day.

That said, I think the main idea behind the engagement league is engagement. The prizes are great, so is seeing how you measure up to yourself and others each week, but it's the engagement and I'd say the camaraderie that comes from engaging that are the main focus. The rest of it is nice, and helpful, too.

Then, too, we all have our own lives, and different situations. Not always, but most of the time we have control over our situations, even if we have to go back years and years to find the decision that put us where we are today. In my case, I've decided not to go back to work yet in order to make a go of this. If I can't make a go, then it looks like my final alternative is to go back to work because I've pretty much exhausted every other option I've had. And, my wife is done being the only one bringing home a living wage. :)

If that happens, my time here will be much more limited.