Thanks for the reminder! I just threw out my grape juice kefir because it started smelling awkward. And started using lab created probiotics again, because I didn't want to bring bad bacteria in my gut with my kitchen witchin. :-) But this making veggies in brine has worked for me before, it's a short fermentation period and not much can go wrong and on top of that it is delicious! I love all my fermenting vegetables with pepper corns, garlic and ginger.