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in #dtube7 years ago

Nothing is more divisive than the truth. Flat or globe, two things that should first be debated are the following:

  1. "Are we living in a geocentric or heliocentric world?"

  2. "Is the earth stationary?"

I have found common ground on the flat earth subject with other truthers by first focusing on those two things.

I do not know the shape of the earth. But, to me, it seems more flat than round. But, if it is round, it must be some sort of torus shape imo. It would make sense with how vortex mathematics works.

A torus-like earth may look something similar to the following 1893 map of the square and stationary earth:

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If the earth is totally flat I don't think the AE (Azimuthal equidistant) map is correct because of how the night/day times workout. Flat Earth Asshole made an excellent video about it:

Here is an interestiong link I just found in the comment thread of his video:

THE TRUE FLAT EARTH MODEL?

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A student team in Norway did a really cool project last year where they sent a high altitude balloon to right above 100 000 feet with a LIVE camera link for people to follow on Twitch.

You can see their video here on the group's Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/kogstarburst/videos/1496581273718019/

I remember seeing some people sharing still-images of the Earth from this type of altitude where they see a straight line and do not see a curve. I just thought you would find it interesting to see that actually, depending on where the camera focuses, you can see a curve to either direction (what would it be like to live on a planet that curved the other way? ;p). However, when you look down at the earth, it does appear spherical.

I agree with you @einarkusk, one should speak one's mind no matter what, and not change your mind due to pressure from others, but only based on evidence.

Here's 200 of the evidence you're looking for ;)

And dear fellow, the video you sent me is shot with a fish-eye lense (GoPro), you can see the Earth being spherical at one time, then concave and then flat. So which one is it? The answer is: when the camera is pointing straight ahead and the lense is level with the horizon - that is the correct shape of the Earth. In the video you sent me, the camera is clearly pointing down. It needs to point straight forward and be level because otherwise the fisheye lense will distort it. And even if you would set the camera straight and level, there would be a slight distortion because of the lense. You need to film the horizon with a non fisheye lense that is wide enough but not so wide to turn into a fisheye. A neutral lense that is closest to the human eye.

It needs to point straight forward and be level

Well, but if you do that, you will see a "flat" horizon whether or not the Earth is a sphere or flat. This will be the case for any round object no matter how high you go until, eventually, it all disappears from view.

Why? Because the horizon line you see against the blackness represents the points furthest away from you. If the Earth is indeed round, all of these points will be equally far away from you and also equally far beneath you. In order to see curvature to either side, the centre of your view would have to be higher or further away. WHich is not the case when you stare directly at the horizon. So no, the fact that the horizon is a straight line is not evidence against a round Earth nor evidence for a flat one.

What is, however, quite good evidence for a round Earth is the fact that no matter where you send the balloon on Earth, it always provides you with the same circular view. Meaning you always see as far in all directions 360 degrees around you as you turn the camera, and the increase in viewing distance always scales with the assumed rate of curvature no matter where you are in the world. This would require a very good explanation for a flat earth model to be supported.

Anyways, I don't expect this will convince you of anything, but I hope that you now understand that the level view of the horizon is not evidence against a round Earth. It is actually exactly what you would expect to see if the Earth was round.