Hi Freedompoint: I see you believe as fact what you read about the creation of the universe as seen through the eyes of man 6,000 years ago or something like that. Basically it is a parable about the creation of the earth, and it has a value just as the parables quoted by Jesus have. Very important meanings, but not scientific truth. Rev. George Lamaitre came up with what actually happened by looking at how things are today and asking why. When you consider how mathematical the universe is you realise how very logical God is, not just logical but loving also. The point about the logic of the universe is how if any one of his laws of nature were even one millionth out of true then we would not exist. That is how our lives should be, correct down to the last millionth. OK, we are human, but we should always go back to the origin, Jesus. So what did Jesus say and do. The orthodox/catholic argument was to say the least obtuse, in fact, unbelievably so. In the beginning was the Word, and so in the beginning was the Holy Spirit and the Father. However they came to us in a particular order, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. But does that actually matter? What matters is that Christ died for us so that we could be redeemed. Free will means that we actually have to choose that, and choosing isn't simply an act of will, it is following to the best of our ability what was set out for us by Jesus.
Time for church now so I have to get ready.
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Man, that is great @frinders! I wish i could upvote more. I appreciate your input, and i am glad you have put serious thought into what you believe. That is my goal! To help bring about thought! In hopes thay we all think more about everything we think we know.