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in #dtube5 years ago

Cool video. Looks like a fun trip.

Shame you're getting downvoted. Seems like people here only appreciate announcements from projects or hearing the same old "why I curate" comments from large-stakeholders.

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All posts on the trending who use bidbots are being downvoted. Look here: https://steemwhales.com/clean-trending/

I understand that. I just don't fully agree with it as a blanket rule.

I'd rather see this video up here, than another slew of project announcements (which strikes me as projects getting paid to advertise updates to their project, rather than the opposite -- paying to advertise).


Guess I was just getting tired of only seeing posts from Steem-engine (getting rewarded for throwing an advertisement at our eyeballs about their project that is now starting to get revenue from advertisements -- because realistically, you should pay to advertise rather than get paid) or Exyle (getting rewarded for talking about how he graciously distributes rewards, all wrapped up in an entire wall of single sentence paragraphs).

Feels like people are losing the idea that this is supposed to be social media, rather than corporate or large-stakeholder media.

How would you not use it as a blanket rule? I haven't downvoted this post because I could see he had enough of them, and hopefully he will see that after the hardfork 50% of the money is returned to the bibods which makes using them an even worse deal. He pays loads of steem to the bidbots who wreck this platform and his reward after they have their share is minimal - at the same time he prevents organic curating by playing their game, and what does he get? - he earns 10 steem (minus downvotes) they earn 200 which are used to make all the projects you don't like on the trending page! I hate going after the junkies and not the pushers, but that is the only way to turn things around here. Paying for votes completely destroys the principle of a social media, not downvoting.

I hear you. I wasn't trying to suggest that I'm in favor of people using bid-bots, but I understand why they use them. I do understand that they undermine honest voting and natural content discovery -- but I would also argue that stake-based voting does the same thing, yet it's being applauded and praised.

(Also -- I never said that I don't like the projects. I think many of them are interesting and exciting. I'm just not super keen on the big advertisement posts they pump out that they then get rewarded for.)

I hate going after the junkies and not the pushers, but that is the only way to turn things around here.

This is a great analogy, and summarizes my feelings pretty nicely, I think. However, I'd suggest that no, it's not the only way to turn things around. In fact, I doubt there will ever be any effective form of proof of brain (or honest curation / voting / content-discovery or whatever term you prefer), until people make as much of a fuss about stake-based voting as they did / do about bid-bot usage. To me, they seem to be two problems that are very much linked together.


Maybe it'll end up that trying to tie token-distribution to content-value is a non-started. I have a hard time thinking that people will ever agree on what they think is bringing 'value' to any table. People have different tastes and different interests.

Maybe it WILL morph into a 1-account:1-vote system, and people wont have to consider using bid-bot services. Their content would get rewards proportional to the number of people that like it, rather than trying to get the attention of a whale.

Maybe it'll morph into a system more like what's being developed on D.Tube where your VotingPower accumulates over time, and anyone is able to give out a whale-sized vote after enough time -- giving them the power to help something get trending more quickly.

Maybe it'll morph into a system where all inflation is paid out evenly to everyone, and you can tip/spend as you please -- and people can stop fussing about what other people are creating and/or earning.

I agree completely. Proof of stake is dodgy to say the least. The most wealthy is not necessarily the one who should decide what is quality... but here we are in a system that sort of works. I was about to give up and cash out, when this new fork gave some positive vibes back and now I am fighting the old fight against the people who tries to game the system.

I have no idea how a good social media will work? Right now Facebook is more abusive than any other alternative :) So I stick around and I honestly don't mean any real content curators any harm.

While I partly agree with both of you, let say something from the perspective of the average user, because in my opinion this what this platform needs. It needs users that create content and in order to attract that kind of users, there needs to be a compensation for their work.
Wright now I'm seeing projects and contests, but not many content creators. So there's little reason for the average user to come back and scroll the news feed, like one would do on YouTube or Facebook.

Still the average user decides to share his original content with the community. He does that a couple of times with little to none compensation. So after a few failed attempts, he considered promoting (through the manual curation services of a steem witness I believe) in order to get noticed.
But shortly after doing so he's being bullied from people with no interest whatsoever about the content (or the hard work behind it) simply because the "newsteem" frowns upon promoting.
3 months ago the "oldsteem" actually had a promotion uption.

Now what do you think the average user would do?
Would he continue investing time in reading the new rules (which may change again anytime) or simply feel pushed away and move to another platform?

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Thank you @exhaust!
I'm trying focus on the positive upvotes I get.
And I totally agree about that last part.