depends on what you believe, some people are thinking about sex and sexual assault.
Most of the time people get away with very bad sexual harassment and sometimes people are getting busted without doing the sexual harassment the problem is sometimes a fals flag for political of financial gains.
Every case it should be jurdged separatelly
It doesn't even have to go as far as a subordinate being paid off. They might be benefitting by just keeping the job because the boss knows they wouldn't make a fuss if they see something. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy for both parties to be benefitting. Can it be the case that they're victims of the same abuse of power of course, but sexual assault is rampant in the workplace not because of a few evil eggs that manipulated everyone but because a CULTURE of acceptance.
The standard you walk past without complaint is the standard you endorse. MLK's words on the white moderate are also applicable 'more devoted to order than justice'. Justice being hard and and threatening to your financial security does not make you a victim of the same abuse of power.
You could make the case capitalism is the real problem here imo. @davidpakman
I really think the world would be better if nobody supported evil in any way. I mean, you overlooking an angry man without comforting him in any way is you being supportive of the actions he might take due to that anger, for instance. Covering up anything wrong is way worse than doing it because cause and effect would be irrelevant if you can actually stop the cause.
Good point that the people that cover something up then they may be under some kind of duress themselves.
On a tangent, a Trumpist I know was a victim of a sexual assault years ago. Yet when trump was accused of basically the same things they had awful things to say about the women who came out against trump. I pointed out the contradiction of wanting me to believe their story but immediately reject anyone elses and they told me to 'fuck off,' the feeling is mutual. I don't understand the psychology behind that cognitive dissonance.
I agree with your answer 99%. My answer would have been the same, the power dynamics that prevent someone to talk is the same whether you're the victim or you're what we can call an innocent bystander.
There is a difference, though. If it were me, I honestly don't know what I'd do. I'm convinced that living a trauma, like a sexual assault, and seeing it from the outside and doing nothing are different things. Knowing that you could prevent someone else from suffering and that, by not talking, you're actually being complicit in a crime like that is not an easy decision. Of course it's too easy for us to talk, we're not involved, it's easy to spread blame. Still, I can't help to feel a little troubled when I think of the amount of people that know and do nothing. I'd rather know that at some point, someone would lose the fight against their conscience and talk.
Is covering up sexual assault as bad as sexually assaulting someone?
It goes back to our childhood and enculturation. Sexual abuse and viewing Internet porn is rampant in many neighborhoods. As we have seen in the news, both male and female teachers prey on youth. It seems to be inherent in power dynamics despite gender. Finally, covering up sexual abuse is just as bad because it means you agree with the occurrence. If I saw my boss murder someone in the parking lot should that be a time to worry about keeping my job?
I think the title and the way the caller put it are rather poor...
What you're talking about isn't just covering up, it's bonefide participation in the crime. They're every bit as guilty as the sexual assaulter if they're an accomplice.
I'd say yes or worse really. Since you enable others to get away with it and for more harm to come to victim(s).
"When the truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie." -- Russian poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko,
"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." -- Elie Wiesel, Nobel Laureate and holocaust survivor.
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends than that good men should look on and do nothing." -- John Stuart Mill
Not everyone is built to be the hero or the type of person that is going to fight and not flight. I think absolutely a person who doesn't report a murder is not equal to the person who commits the murder. We get further and further into this area where context does not matter. And unfortunately as human beings context does matter. So you can't say a person covering up a crime the same as committing the crime. Just like I don't feel like someone who sexually harasses or talks inappropriately is the same level of wrongdoing as an actual rapist. But for whatever reason it seems that we are on this severe swing of things where context doesn't matter and everything is blanketed together.
depends on what you trust, a few human beings are considering sex and sexual assault.
most of the time human beings escape with very terrible sexual harassment and every so often people have become busted with out doing the sexual harassment the hassle is from time to time a fals flag for political of monetary gains.
every case it need to be jurdged separatelly
depends on what you believe, some people are thinking about sex and sexual assault.
Most of the time people get away with very bad sexual harassment and sometimes people are getting busted without doing the sexual harassment the problem is sometimes a fals flag for political of financial gains.
Every case it should be jurdged separatelly
I love the way you responded to it. That question could have tarnish your image to some extent depending on how you responded.
Could it? I didn't think the stakes were quite that high!
It doesn't even have to go as far as a subordinate being paid off. They might be benefitting by just keeping the job because the boss knows they wouldn't make a fuss if they see something. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy for both parties to be benefitting. Can it be the case that they're victims of the same abuse of power of course, but sexual assault is rampant in the workplace not because of a few evil eggs that manipulated everyone but because a CULTURE of acceptance.
The standard you walk past without complaint is the standard you endorse. MLK's words on the white moderate are also applicable 'more devoted to order than justice'. Justice being hard and and threatening to your financial security does not make you a victim of the same abuse of power.
You could make the case capitalism is the real problem here imo.
@davidpakman
very interesting information
I really think the world would be better if nobody supported evil in any way. I mean, you overlooking an angry man without comforting him in any way is you being supportive of the actions he might take due to that anger, for instance. Covering up anything wrong is way worse than doing it because cause and effect would be irrelevant if you can actually stop the cause.
I agree with you. If victom doesn't tell anybody, then who will? They just have to be strong... Covering up is the worst thing to do.
Good point that the people that cover something up then they may be under some kind of duress themselves.
On a tangent, a Trumpist I know was a victim of a sexual assault years ago. Yet when trump was accused of basically the same things they had awful things to say about the women who came out against trump. I pointed out the contradiction of wanting me to believe their story but immediately reject anyone elses and they told me to 'fuck off,' the feeling is mutual. I don't understand the psychology behind that cognitive dissonance.
I agree with your answer 99%. My answer would have been the same, the power dynamics that prevent someone to talk is the same whether you're the victim or you're what we can call an innocent bystander.
There is a difference, though. If it were me, I honestly don't know what I'd do. I'm convinced that living a trauma, like a sexual assault, and seeing it from the outside and doing nothing are different things. Knowing that you could prevent someone else from suffering and that, by not talking, you're actually being complicit in a crime like that is not an easy decision. Of course it's too easy for us to talk, we're not involved, it's easy to spread blame. Still, I can't help to feel a little troubled when I think of the amount of people that know and do nothing. I'd rather know that at some point, someone would lose the fight against their conscience and talk.
Is covering up sexual assault as bad as sexually assaulting someone?
It goes back to our childhood and enculturation. Sexual abuse and viewing Internet porn is rampant in many neighborhoods. As we have seen in the news, both male and female teachers prey on youth. It seems to be inherent in power dynamics despite gender. Finally, covering up sexual abuse is just as bad because it means you agree with the occurrence. If I saw my boss murder someone in the parking lot should that be a time to worry about keeping my job?
I think so... for the sake of the victim ...one should speak out ...it realy hurts when youre taken advantage of and no one to speak up for you
I think the title and the way the caller put it are rather poor...
What you're talking about isn't just covering up, it's bonefide participation in the crime. They're every bit as guilty as the sexual assaulter if they're an accomplice.
I'd say yes or worse really. Since you enable others to get away with it and for more harm to come to victim(s).
"When the truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie." -- Russian poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko,
"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." -- Elie Wiesel, Nobel Laureate and holocaust survivor.
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends than that good men should look on and do nothing." -- John Stuart Mill
Not everyone is built to be the hero or the type of person that is going to fight and not flight. I think absolutely a person who doesn't report a murder is not equal to the person who commits the murder. We get further and further into this area where context does not matter. And unfortunately as human beings context does matter. So you can't say a person covering up a crime the same as committing the crime. Just like I don't feel like someone who sexually harasses or talks inappropriately is the same level of wrongdoing as an actual rapist. But for whatever reason it seems that we are on this severe swing of things where context doesn't matter and everything is blanketed together.
depends on what you trust, a few human beings are considering sex and sexual assault.
most of the time human beings escape with very terrible sexual harassment and every so often people have become busted with out doing the sexual harassment the hassle is from time to time a fals flag for political of monetary gains.
every case it need to be jurdged separatelly
@Upvote and @Resteem