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RE: Another post about downvotes

in #downvotes5 years ago (edited)

Your post was written in a professional and correct way, the essence is explained very nicely, I will try to give my opinion in a creative way.

I wrote about solutions but downvote is not a solution, nor is it a society based only on those who have a lot of Steem Power. The idea of ​​burning Steem is just a preventative measure in times of crisis, now the whole system looks like a war zone and not a social network. We get downvotes for introducing a wife, a kid, a brother and then you vote for them, so it's crazy. On social networks you have the freedom to give like to who you want, On Steemit you get downvotes for that. The trend pages do not resemble blogging quality, only the strong ones are there, those who are part of the lobby groups. If everyone were casting votes only to new users, then no post on a trending page would have more than $ 5 or $ 10. The same people get votes from the same people, those smaller fish get downvotes and at the same time offer to give their Steem Power as a delegation. The value of Steem can be raised if we have companies that accept it as a payment method if they give discounts on products and thus increase our turnover. We need to limit production to Steem, this should be a royal network, and other systems with other Steem tokens should be support for all people on this planet. Quality does not reach the top, if you donate $ 85 a product through a post, you again have no support, so it's really weird. I see this as just one attempt to get out of the crisis, but the whole concept is unsustainable in practice, an idea incubator should be created and all together put forward proposals that can bring us to the surface.

We have a situation that is utopia, you cannot support millions of people with 100 kg of gold, Steem has a limited source of value. Only the Steem platform and new tokens can increase the number of users and give the right support.

Instead of a downvote, I would introduce a ban from the list. I am sure there are many better business solutions, this is not a picture in which we all grow, in which we all have profit and positive energy. Steem is not a social network, Steem is a business social network and therefore it is necessary to create a model that gives positive energy and which has the power to attract new investors, companies, bloggers, etc.

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The trend pages do not resemble blogging quality, only the strong ones are there, those who are part of the lobby groups.

Please refrain from painting everyone with a broad brush. Thanks for basically calling my work garbage, and no I'm not part of some frikkin' "lobby group." Instead of making it about me though, I could also point out plenty of others who've earned high trending page slots honestly today and in recent memory. How do you think they'll feel if they stumble across your message here today? Achieving that status honestly and organically was nearly impossible for two years and now you're attempting to take everything some people worked towards and flush it all down the toilet because you're having a bad day.

It's fine if you're one of these disgruntled members of the community and no you don't have to agree with everything and everyone but there's no need to throw everyone under the bus and attempt to make everyone look bad just to make a point. Speak on the facts and drop the sensationalism, please.

I see you're also actively downvoting people. One account received several downvotes from you today in a very short period of time. There's no possible way you could have consumed that content in that amount of time and made a fair decision when curating up or down, so it's obviously something else. If you're sitting here having a "war" with people, that is your business, your life — and your life and experience is not a direct reflection of the lives and experiences of everyone else here. You speak for yourself, not everyone else, so keep that in mind.

Instead of a downvote, I would introduce a ban from the list.

There were 44000 accounts already placed on a blacklist for paid vote abuse. You can't even show me 44000 accounts who's blog, as a business, benefited from using paid votes, but I can show you an entire list that size of people who abused it.

Those 44000 accounts blacklisted for abuse and ALL of the other members here purchasing votes hurt my blog, as a business. Burying my work and the work of everyone else who wanted to blog and earn honestly. The very action of someone purchasing an upvote would indirectly place a downvote on my work, since their behavior pushed my work down the rankings. Did ANY of these people care about all those they were indirectly downvoting when they purchase an upvote? NOPE! And they lied as well! Said it was about "promotion" and "visibility" yet suddenly, when there's no PROFIT involved, like magic, they no longer want to "promote" for "visibility" (the visibility they were taking away from EVERYONE ELSE). Go figure. They've shown their true colors these days, after two years of lies.

I'm under the impression the changes around here are about balance and fairness and needed to happen because things were not balanced and fair.

Watching people pout about taking away a dysfunctional system that worked in their favor, after they had spent two years gleefully taking opportunities away from everyone else around them, is like working at a daycare and being surrounded by toddlers.

Look at the posts from the trending list and see who votes for them, you will always see the same or a similar picture to most people.

This is yours - for me that's ok

Your text is not constructive because it is more like you are defending the views of these people who have the most Steem Power, and the facts show that. The point is to make Steem stronger, to get the quality right. The downvote is certainly not a good way, people are afraid, to tell the truth, and if someone is silent it does not mean it is good. Do not write to me, write a post for the benefit of all users. Give us constructive suggestions on how to raise Steem value without downvote?
I honestly want you to start making the most money with your good posts, but I'm not the subject of this conversation, all the investors, businessmen, bloggers, scientists, the poor, etc.

Be positive and come up with positive solutions, and look at the new posts there are those who are of extra good quality but are not on the trending page, this is because the natural selection of friendships and good relationships is crucial and not the post itself. I believe we will all emerge victorious when the whole truth unfolds in the right way when we find better and more positive solutions for our Steem family.

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Instead of a downvote, I would introduce a ban from the list.

Something to that effect will be possible in Hive Communities I believe, where members can be excluded from a community for not following its rules.

This is already possible, but not enforced a lot to my knowledge in tribes, where individual accounts can be muted, and will no longer receive rewards if they are.