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RE: An Objective look at Dlive's exit

in #dlive6 years ago

It seems they played a careful game to get the most out of Steem, but I wonder if they can carry over much community. I think a lot of the Steem users will not go with them. I just put a few vlogs on there, so it's nothing of much value. I'll look into the other options.

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A lot of the DLive members... To put it bluntly, dont care about steem except the rewards.

I am not saying that to dog on steem but as a member that has been on DLive from the beginning I am confident in my beliefs about the demographics of the users.

Most were there because of DLive... Not JUST because of steemit.

I feel @jonny-clearwater can back up the fact that most users didnt even know what a witness was.

I know that some people that came over only for DLive will stick with the blockchain and others will follow it. I dont know of any (not saying they dont exist) that was on steemit before DLive that is abandoning it now.

For what it is worth.

That may well be. I don't like that so many of the 'dapps' don't even make it clear that they run on Steem. We want users to be aware of the greater ecosystem. I only had peripheral usage of DLive, so missed out on seeing what the dedicated community was like. Still, those who mainly used Steemit will probably not follow them to Lino, so they lost a lot of potential users.

A lot of Steemit users don't really know/care about witnesses, but that's another issue.

@steevc, sorry I missed this yesterday! I feel you are spot on with everything you said.

I'm not a streamer, nor a vlogger, so I never posted on dlive. I only ever went there because folks I followed used it, and now they don't, so I never will again.

It's just a streaming service.

Steem is technological advance, and that matters. Were dlive actually decentralized as it's name implied, it'd be censorship resistant, and that would be a technological advance, and I'd care more.

Since it's not, I don't care.

I think that is what a lot of people will do honestly.

From what I have seen:
If you were vested in steem before dlive, most will stay.

If you were not and heavily vested in dlive, most will go.

If you like steem and like dlive, most will dual stream.

A lot of them will probably just leave. If they don't care about anything but rewards they're not likely to move to Lino, which is untraded.

Probably just leave... What? Just trying to clarify what you say.

If I had to guess I would say most people that were on steemit before dlive will stay with steemit and try dtube or vimm and may dual stream to dlive.

Of the people that only have a steem account because of dlive they will likely move with them or try to dual stream.

Of the people that rely on steem rewards to eat they will probably stick with platforms on steem until they realize they wont make the money they did with dlive.

This isnt entire speculation, I was heavily involved with dlive for 8 months and created @dlive24hour and have been talking to many people about their plans.

One more thing I would like to say is the rabid flagging to people stating their opinion on the matter only pushes people AWAY from steem, especially the ones that were not that vested in steem in the first place.

Rather than an attitude of resentment towards the USERS of the platform I hope they can find something positive and attempt to be welcoming to the displaced streamers.

Probably just leave... What? Just trying to clarify what you say.

Many dLive users will probably stop using both dLive and Steem. They'll probably move back to Twitch, which works reliably and rewards them at least as much as Lino will.

the rabid flagging to people stating their opinion on the matter only pushes people AWAY from steem

Well, I haven't flagged anybody and am not planning to.

@tcpolymath: How many people on dlive came from twitch? The answer is not many.

Of the ones that did only did so because they couldnt get traction there so they went to a smaller pond.

This is sort of a frustrating point right now for me as many people are assuming things and they were not even a member of the community.

Only a small handful of streamers came to dlive from other platforms. Most are first time streamers and most were not monetized on other platforms anyways.

All I am saying is that I have been talking to members of the community involved in the process and I stick with my thoughts on what people are going to do.

And as far as the flagging, that was more of a general statement, not directed at you I apologize for not being more clear.

I agree. They will need to pretty much start over.

Well not really. They basically used the Steem community to test their product for free, didnt disclose anything what they intended to do, and are basically jumping ship leaving everyone hanging.
"Your Steem wallets... who cares. Youre a part of the community here? Who cares."

free, you mean they got paid to test it, built their project off Steemit... real scum bags

Sure they did all that but will need to build their user base from almost the ground up at this point.

Well yeah. But on the technical side they arent really starting from nothing. They made 70k STEEM (after SMTs launch who knows how much that will be worth)
and used the community as guinea pigs to test everything there is to test on a video streaming service like that. Not really starting from scratch.

There are so many video streaming services, but do you know what most of them are missing?

People.

And with this stunt I just can't see Dlive getting many people on their new platform.

Sincerely,
@Mysteor