NOTA BENE:
- first I upvoted @oups' comment to pull it upward from invisibility for being flagged (it deserves to be seen IMO)
- then unvoted that upvote because it was seen anyway
- but now apparently @wa7 &team are trying to use @oups' comment as their "promo stage", and that I don't agree to! So I now flagged the comment myself (as light as I could to still keep visible).
^^^ Sorry @oups , no personal pun / harm intended, hope you understand.
@oups: "just business" is a nonsense argument. @meno has clearly and carefully worded, that - apparently - @dlive was simply piggy-backing on STEEM from day 1, only to try and take away its user-base now.
And on top of that, on their lino-website, they are now referring to dlive.io, implicitly stating "look, you can make money via dlive on lino!"
That is as bad as it gets, business-wise....
Thanks, I might miss a few points in meno's comment. I even check dictionary a few times as you may know english is not my mother language.
I get it, really it's a bad move business-wise. It might be planned since day one, however it still is a business. Instead of accusing them, I know there is at least 10 great developers in this comment section that can build a streaming platform in one to four weeks. If dlive were relied on steemit inc's delegation so it wouldn't be a problem. A streaming system on steem blockchain would be here within a month with the same power of delegation with same votes. Everything would continue where it left and it basically means a totally new start for dlive in their new blockchain. Just say goodbye and wish them a good luck and work on making steem better. That's all I'm saying. Act professional, build a better one on steem blockchain and make them sorry in the end. Even this thing goes viral on some blockchain blogs or somewhere else it should cause a bad publicity instead we (whole steem community from developers to the stakeholders) should use this as an opportunity.
But oddly enough it sounds awkward to everyone.
I do agree with some of your points here more than your original comment which was flagged. But I still think @meno's comment is important for documentation purposes. It's not to make them feel bad or be unprofessional, because to use @steemit's delegated power to do something shady behind the scenes needs to be brought to light. Of course I agree with the sentiment to forgive and move on. I hope a better streaming platform is created on the STEEM blockchain in the coming weeks/months.
thank you, for the SBI enrollement. i do appreciate it.
hf20 lag kicked my rhythm onsteemit.
im quite surprised to see this about Dlive, but i did find it strange when it was running when steem was not.
I learned today that there is https://www.vimm.tv/ basically does the same thing. Dtube also supports streaming. If these people wants dlive to fail, they should act differently. Instead of wasting their power to flag me, upvoting some newbie's content over there might actually help. But NOPE.
Yeah, I think people are really heated about this right now and emotion probably took over. I also rarely flag because I'd prefer to give the rewards to someone else. I do admire people like Bernie who are willing to use their stake for the purpose of countering scammers, though. Both methods (up/down vote) make the STEEM blockchain much more dynamic than somewhere like Facebook, where there isn't even a simple thumbs down built in.
another member of the Bernie clan detected!
Not at all, I used to hate the way he acted. It's just over the months I've come to understand his underlying intentions better. Respecting someone doesn't mean I agree with the way they go about things or even everything they do. All I said is I respect him for being one of the few whales willing to sacrifice profit to counter bad actors.
Did you say Dlive is doing something shady behind the scenes? I see Dlive left Steem, and is that shady or what was the shady part of it, specifically? Was it shady because Dlive didn't come forward with their plan to leave Steem until now? Did Dlive violate contracts, trust, or something?
There's a lot of speculation at this point, which I usually avoid unless it's certain, but in this case it seems like there is a high probability that this was their plan all along. I doubt they had a physical contract with @steemit, instead, they broke an unspoken contract by using a massive delegation to pay their team and build a competing platform. That's made a lot of people committed to STEEM pretty upset.
If they had been honest about their intentions, I doubt they would have gotten the huge delegations they did. I believe they knew that so they kept it secret as long as possible to continue milking the rewards pool.
Agreed, they could have done it differently, and we should be upset, and I hope we bounce back even stronger than ever without Dlive and with alternatives and everything. Thanks so much for talking about this. Upvoted.