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RE: DLive is joining the Lino blockchain, moving away from Steem

in #dlive6 years ago

@oups, the problem is they were using funds given to them for free through delegation of Steemit, Inc. to the tune of a couple of MILLION SP.

If they had been using their own funds, it would look a lot less like stealing and people would not be upset. They also intentionally made it seem like they planned to help advance the development of this blockchain while secretly building it off another. There was a lot of deception involved.

Your comment got flagged not because of personal vendettas, but because it is simply not that accurate. One of the main reasons to flag content is "Disagreement on rewards."

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I kinda get it. I was actually trying to find a middle point, attacking them wouldn't solve a single thing. And it might be used as a bad publicity in near future, and as a tiny bit of stakeholder I am, I can see markets going to change steem prices soon, I just worried about this anger might affect it.

Thank you for being here and explaining the reasons. I don't mind to lose these comments' rewards. I was just trying to debate here, but it obviously not possible without getting flagged and basically being censored for no good reason. There billions of spammers out there waiting for a single flag but here I'm getting 10s of it just stating my point and being in a conversation. I'm okay with getting nothing with these comments but at least put a single line of sentence why you disagree.

And I put this comment as a reply to meno's just because he looks like the least heated guy in the room.

"attacking them wouldn't solve a single thing. And it might be used as a bad publicity in near future" it's not "attacking" it's voicing their opinions. This is real freedom. Freedom becomes heated. Yes when people see real views it will have a future effect. Would someone do this again? Probably not. Because of the strong negative effect response here. This is the first time in history that people can really voice their opinions in an interesting way. This is real unfiltered empowerment. Or well people used to do this in the past all the time. Fights on the streets or arguments about stuff used to be very common back in the days. Now it happens in a digital way. And it's never censor. People can always click to view your message if they want to. It's not removed.

I really want to get out of this discussion, it started give me an headache, but if I may. I want to ask you one last question.

What will discourage someone else to do the same thing?
What dlive lose in here, they are already gone.

and I'm still getting flag notifications from you, what are you trying to do. Forcing me to continue this conversation and keep flagging. Would you be happy if I start to power down and sell it. What's you aim. Or you want a retaliation like in the streets bruh, do you want me to lease some vests and flag every each of your self-votes, before I go?

@phoneinf only flagged your insulting comment to @scipio, which was unnecessary. Don't be one of the crybabies about flags. Downvotes help to keep this place (somewhat) less toxic than facebook.

People complain it creates "brown-nosers" and that there is too much ass-kissing here, but I disagree. I think it forces immature people to behave more civilly, for the most part.

Get out then.

Yeah, @Stefan.Molyneux loves debate, arguments, in real life, and that is why we love going live.

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Just be careful on getting too defensive about flags, that can bring more attacks on you. Actually, I think you'll find that you will get some upvotes on these comments once people understand what your real intention was.

There is a common misconception that a downvote/flag is an "attack:" It is not. It's just the opposite of an upvote. Do we ask "Why am I getting attacked by all these upvotes?!?"

However, I do agree that it's common courtesy to leave a comment stating the reason for a flag, though many people don't. If you feel like it, you can always update your original comment as you learn more about the situation. Some of the flags might get removed depending on how much your understanding grows.

Did Dlive violate a contract that they had with Steemit, Inc. that included conditional, bilateral, covenant, involving the delegation from Steem to Dlive, which specifically stated in the terms of the contract that Dlive had to promise to never ever leave for any reason to launch their own platform or anything like that? I have prefer Dlive over Dtube, at least. Beyond that, we also have Bitchute and Real Video.

Well, we don't know, because Steemit, Inc. does not release information about their delegations, which I feel ought to be more transparent. @DLive launching their own platform is of course their right, as it is ours to demand an explanation of the behavior. My intuition and what I've gleaned so far tells me they were not being completely honest in this post.

Never heard of @bitchute or Real Video, I'll have to check those out! As far as @dtube, along with many others, I wish they would take a smaller cut than 25% of author rewards. I know they need to reward their teams, but that is a massive amount.

I have not been able to play my older Dtube videos. That is videos that are older than a few months which didn't make any money on Dtube. They don't load, they don't play. But my older Dlive videos did play even if they didn't make money. If earning a certain amount of money is required for Dtube videos to remain up, then I just would want to know about it ahead of time, lol, but really. I like http://Bitchute.com and the others too. Thanks. Upvoted.

This whole thing is just disgusting. Very dissapointing, @dlive.