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RE: Are There Any Heros Out There?

in #deep-state7 years ago

It disgusts me what the mentality of the elites are like. So barbaric and careless but it doesn't bother them as we mindlessly follow, letting the flames grow stronger while we think nations are 'helping' each other. Everything is for monetary gain

You wonder why the US keeps going back to Afghanistan. I think it is just a fad to suck the country dry of its natural resources and they have no care in the world if people die.

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There was an interesting story from WW2; when Churchill made the decision to divert a grain shipment on it's way to Manchester, sending it to a more southerly port in order to feed people who were working at a military factory near London. It was deemed that the needs of the many (ie winning the war) was more important than the needs of the few (starving Mancunians). It made me wonder about how moral rules apply differently at varying scales of power. I'm sure some of the elites are nefarious, but most of the ones i've met are simply naive, doing what they think is best. Really, they are more akin to children than barbarians. I honestly believe that as soon as we infantalise them on an inter-personal level (rather than treat them as evil overlords), then we will win.

I think that Afghanistan is largely also about who controls the trillion dollar heroin trade. Nothing new. It was the East India Company which got the European powers into the Opium Wars against China (which, naturally enough, wanted to stop the massive effort to addict its population to the drug so that the British wouldn't have to give them silver for their tea)

If it wasnt for Winston Churchill, you'd be a Nazi speaking German today.

Sometimes leadership requires hard decisions. Not every decision can be structured as win-win.

Sometimes the only possible outcome from a decision is win-lose.

I remember something like that from the military. It was an exercise about a bomb shelter. You were given a list of people and you had to choose the one that would be left out. There were old people, rich, poor, skilled, unskilled, clergy, doctors, soldiers, pregnant women, children and the like.
The only wrong answer was to say you couldn't choose.

How is that relevant, even if true, to my comment?

Because your views are ultimately nihilistic.

You're not trying to be constructive, just shitting on the status quo.

We could all live in Utopia and you'd complain.

But I don't blame you, I like to shit on things too.

Which view(s) are you referring to? Perhaps you are projecting?

Sorry, I should rephrase, because views can't really be nihilistic. My charge is that your philosophy is nihilistic. So, what do you believe in? If nothing, then you're a nihilist. If something, we can work from there.

I think you're a nihilist because I once said the things you say, when I was a nihilist. You could call that projecting, but I call it sympathizing.