If you follow me on Snaps, or just see me around in Discord, you may have seen this chart before.
This is a breakdown of all four short form content providers on Hive over the last 90 days. As you can see, LEO is clearly dominating.
Let's take a look closer at this.
Let's make the same chart, but exclude @ai-summaries AI bot from the results.
This is certainly a lot more interesting. But can we do better?
Let's see where this short form activity is coming from over the last 30 days.
So here we have three outliers, the obvious AI bot but two other users are a significant portion of this activity. For funsies, let's remove them.
I find this very interesting.
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I don't think stuffing the chain with 'data' has much benefit. We need users and actual content. I'll keep on doing what I do as it's fun.
We get to spend more on disk space! Isn't that what everyone wants to do?!?!?
Almost all our problems are solved by more users.
Yeah so many doors open to us with more users.
People, not other forms of users.
Yes.
I have wondered about this for many years. Will the technology that Hive utilizes support a huge user base? If a miracle happened and 1 million users appeared tomorrow, would everything still work? (Sorry I am not talking about specifics concerning the technology, but I am still pretty clueless when it comes to that. That's why I'm just trying to ask it in oversimplified terms).
It still works great but needless bloating for a tiny chain is not good.
Sorry for not clarifying. I didn’t mean in connection with this auto posting. I just meant in general. For a long time it seemed that the tech wasn’t there for a huge influx of real users (I mean going back like 7 or 8 years). That seemed to be the reason for not trying to attract content consumers. But if HIVE has the tech, I don’t understand why the community is not trying to bring in creators with a medium sized following- basically what looks like a big following on YouTube or TikTok or whatever those crazy kids use nowadays but is not enough of a following to truly monetize it. Someone who has a good following who would be happy getting $100 per day. And then perhaps use the community fund to supplement that. Encourage them to bring their followers over.
Hive can handle a lot more than it has now. It is just silly to create so much bloat for a handful of users.
As for why people are not bringing on users, because it is extremely difficult and time consuming. It is unlikely anyone will make $200 a day in post rewards consistently (required to get $100 in author rewards). Even that is t squat compared to what well known users can make elsewhere.
I am not sure what the cutoff is for actually making money on YouTube. I’ll research it later but I thought it was a pretty large number. So we don’t need to land a huge fish. We don’t even need a big fish. If we got someone with 100,000 true fans and encouraged them to bring them here, I would imagine it would make a huge difference. Heck even 10,000 is something. And if I’m not mistaken there is a community fund that could be used to encourage such a creator to bring their audience here. I have always wondered why we don’t use that fund to bring over a few creators with x number of fans. (Still not sure what that x needs to be to be possible and wise).
Doubt that a human can write 20-30k-ish posts in a month.
@themarkymark,
You downvote and easily ruin someone's career. But you don't inform me about my crime. You don't value small users like us because you have money. I have the right to know what my crime is. I post fresh posts like 2 times a week, but why are you blacklisting me? What is my crime?
Stop downvote @themarkymark
@jarvie
Interesting stuff.
Hey Marky! Hive analytics is down. Will it be up again?
I don't think it will pass.
Crazy how its 3 people dominating the charts, damn :D
It’s not humans, Leo is scammy and mostly it’s bot action!
I know xD
It's not people. Soylent Green is people. Taskie's 'le' account and Leo's AI acccount are bots. I can only assume Ben's is too.
ye I know xD
Almost 200K threads created by their bot? That's massive and over the top.
That really fucks up the numbers.
“Their” is inaccurate as this ai summaries project isn’t affiliated to LEO in any other way than it simply uses threads to publish
That is very interesting. It's like 10x the other users too. Pretty crazy.
Humm... the first 3 number counts are outrageous.
Users per day
Just fraud bot action!
Sad that Sting isn't in there. I had high hopes for it gaining the capacity to replace vile Discord.
Thanks!
I only focus on container based short content on chain.
Containers remind me. Recalling your familiarity with my experiences trying to use Samba, how realistic would it be for me to try Docker?
Docker is easy and a life saver. I run like 80 docker containers on my Proxmox cluster.
You're more than 80x the programmer I am, but I reckon I'll seriously give it a shot. It seems really useful.
Thanks!
Given your experience with Docker, what specific software would you recommend I start with?
I have no idea what you are looking for.
Some of my favorite ones:
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Crazy and interesting 😳
That was an amazing Ted Talk!
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I use PeakD snaps almost exclusively because of all the A.I. slop on Leo. It starts to feel like Facebook levels of filler.
Am I wrong thinking those summaries are intended to be AI training material? I've heard the "filling the database" version but surely there's a purpose? Doesn't seem fit for human consumption. Then I wonder, since the summaries are chopped up, the context becomes scattered. Wouldn't it be more efficient to have each summary stand as one complete document, if it's intended to be used for training purposes?
Honestly I don’t know. I hear that being said but I highly doubt it is training anything. That’s not how you fine tune AI models. Either way it’s not something you would do on chain anyway.
I suspect it's so Leo can make charts that show it is 'contributing' the most 'engagement'.
Shortform is the new concentration camp span since 2024 wtf just happening.
Nobody can focus focus focus for longer than
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So are you suggesting some regulations on what or how much to put on chain? I get if people don't believe this is "productive". But its suppose to be used to add data for AI to consume.
Can we have different goals here or is it "harmful" for the chain?
Just trying to understand here why some people consider it waste and others believe it’s for a purpose.
I’m not proposing anything.
You are totally right there, I probably just had bias here and presumed.
But if I ask what you think about it? Should it be limited in some way shape or form, or should people be allowed?
Just trying to understand and spark a conversation about it, hope you dont mind :)
I have no say in what anyone does here, only what I do.
I respect that. Let’s see if some other people wanna share their thoughts.
Hello @themarkymark sir, greetings.Actually I don't understand why you have blacklisted me.If I had known my crime then I would have definitely tried to rectify it.Of course I respect your decision.