howdy again sir sultnpapper! wow that is a place I've never thought of looking, goodwill.com. I might have to check that out or have the Mrs. do it, she's a penny pincher thank God. lol. I guess when we buy a new tv we gotta research and see if we can find where the camera is and cover it. hey you can't be spending all this time talking to people! you can't be working today right? lol.