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Today we’re going to talk about a new protocol named Polymath and its related token, POLY. Now I know at least a few of you will be frustrated or confused by the title, so all I’m going to say is just stay tuned and reserve your judgment until after you finish the video.
For those of you unfamiliar with Polymath, let me give you a brief definition and their overall sales pitch. Polymath is a new protocol being developed to make it easier to create security tokens. Security tokens are just as they sound – it is a token which is a security. This is in contrast to utility tokens which is what practically all current ICOs are.
A security token is designed to comply with a specified jurisdiction’s regulatory requirements for securities and KYC is baked into the token itself so that only whitelisted, authorized investors can hold the token. Unlike a utility token, security tokens are bought with the expectation of profit and are meant to work within the confines of the law for whatever region they are issued in.
This is particularly timely as in the second half of 2017, we began seeing a global crackdown of ICOs, or utility tokens, all the way from strict governments like China to much looser regulatory environments like Switzerland. Couple that with an increased focus on ICOs by the SEC in the United States and we’re seeing a serious uptick in the number of entities interested in launching security tokens.
This is where Polymath comes in. Polymath is a protocol designed to connect security token issuers, legal professionals, developers and investors on one platform so that both the supply side and demand-side is accounted for and to create a network effect that is unstoppable.
Long-term, the vision for Polymath is to do more than just enable brand new security token issuances; In other words, Polymath wants to enable all current securities to move over to the blockchain as they view this as the ultimate future. As such, they claim the total addressable market is massive, in the trillions, and that Polymath could do for securities what Ethereum did for ICOs and utility tokens.
That’s the pitch Polymath provides – now let’s talk about why I claim Polymath to be a “complete joke,” which admittedly is a bit harsh because I think there are legitimate people working there, but there are enough red flags that I don’t feel too uncomfortable making that statement.
First and foremost, let’s talk about the CEO: Trevor Koverko. If there was ever an example of a figurehead, this guy is it. His sole purpose is to get the plankton excited (AKA us) and to raise capital from seed investors.
You might be wondering what led to me this conclusion – he seems like a nice enough guy and he’s plenty charismatic.
First, the guy is effectively a walking pitch deck. He almost never gives an answer that isn’t pre-constructed from the slides he presents on at multiple conferences. Here are just a FEW examples (trust me, there are many more) of him during an AMA where he probably would have just been better off presenting the Polymath pitch deck rather than fielding questions from an audience (clips are shown at this point in video).
Now you could argue the guy is just prepared or he just has certain stories he likes to tell, that’s all and I should stop looking so much into it. But if you actually listen to all his talks in succession like I have, you’ll quickly realize he’s practically a cassette tape even in more casual conversations, at least when it comes to anything that’s material to Polymath. In other words, he hardly brings anything original to the table – and I heavily doubt he’s the brains behind this operation.
He’s also the guy who says over and over and over again that one of the reasons that security tokens aren’t launched today is due to a lack of liquidity – no exchanges will list them so you effectively, in his words, become a “zombie coin.”
Now a normal person would expect based off this statement that Polymath is aiming to provide a liquid platform where you could exchange these tokens easily, but nope – you’d be wrong - sort of at least.
See, Polymath doesn’t want to have to deal with the legality concerns of becoming a broker dealer or a securities exchange itself, as they mention themselves in their whitepaper, so instead they want to outsource that risk to either:
Other exchanges that partner with the platform, like T-Zero. Of course, those quote-on-quote “exchanges” also face the same problem of not wanting to be considered securities exchanges, so they then go and say that Polymath is the exchange.
Decentralized exchanges
What’s ironic about this is that the whole point of Polymath is to stop trying to find legal loopholes and to fit within the confines of the law. This is practically the mantra of their whitepaper, yet here they are trying to avoid being labeled a securities exchange because they know the SEC and most other regulatory agencies would shut that down the second it became serious.
I would also like to note that Trevor himself claims that there are currently no exchanges that support securities tokens, as if Polymath will be the first even though they specifically state: “Polymath itself is not an exchange or a broker-dealer. It is a protocol that resides on top of Ethereum that allows issuers to restrict access to tokenized securities.”
I would also like to note that in an earlier version of the investor deck, which Trevor graciously pointed out was the wrong deck while presenting on it, there was a slide that noted the ultimate goal for Polymath was to move to its own Proof-of-Stake blockchain and that the ERC20 POLY tokens initially issued would interact with this new chain. I haven’t seen this mentioned in their whitepaper or in any blog posts since, so I guess they just casually scrapped that idea unless any of you have any info that I happened to have missed.
This is also kind of funny because one of Trevor’s favorite slides is the one where he shows how Ethereum started the utility token revolution, but Polymath has the potential to start the security token revolution with a total addressable market of $10 trillion by 2020. I guess Polymath will launch that revolution on top of Ethereum now rather than having its own blockchain like what appeared to be originally planned. Naturally you might wonder whether or not Polymath can scale on Ethereum, but perhaps there is a more important question you should be asking which is… Will it need to scale?
For the total addressable market to be in the trillions, regular securities would have to move to the blockchain using Polymath which, if you recall from earlier, is Polymath’s long-term goal. Yet without Polymath being a registered securities exchange for these more traditional tokenized securities to trade on, do you really think the likes of the New York Stock Exchange is going to list these tokenized securities?
And the answer of course ... is no. There are far too many uncertainties as it relates to custodianship, security, governance, and the legality of such securities as dictated by the SEC. And for those who are shaking their head saying that the world is larger than the US, you’re going to find the same concerns are valid in almost any region in the world where securities are traded and regulated.
Now you might argue that if all Polymath outsourced was the regulatory risk associated with becoming a securities exchange or broker-dealer, that’s really not all that bad. First I’d disagree with you because they did more than just outsource the risk – they also manipulated investors by representing themselves as a liquidity provider in their presentations and blogs when they really aren’t according to their lesser-read white paper.
But even if you disregard that, the reality is they are outsourcing everything, even the most important portion of the network which is the legal professionals. The Polymath protocol is designed to match issuers with developers who can help them create a token … and legal delegates which can help have the token comply with a local jurisdiction’s regulatory framework for securities.
Now Polymath argues that legal delegates will join the platform as they will be rewarded in POLY to create legitimate legal templates. The idea is that over time, different templates will be identified that work in different jurisdictions, therefore easing the security token creation process and rewarding legal delegates who create these templates.
One huge assumption here is the notion that there will be legal delegates who actually know how to make a token compliant with securities laws in the first place (ESPECIALLY when you consider it’s through coding of all things) and, furthermore, who aren’t already occupied with another blockchain related company given the ridiculous demand for such lawyers.
There’s an even worse concern than this though because the entire platform is based on an even larger assumption which is that you can actually create a security token without involving a much more sophisticated process with the SEC or relevant regulatory authority. In other words, it’s very unlikely at this stage that even the best lawyers could create a template that works consistently or even at all.
Now Polymath’s big technical claim to fame is baking KYC into the tokens themselves, hence only allowing whitelisted Ethereum addresses with verified identities to participate in securities offerings. Of course, it’s worth noting they’ve also outsourced this responsibility to KYC providers as well.
However, what I really want to note about this is that Trevor and Polymath consistently reiterate the fact that KYC will be integrated into the tokens as if this in of itself creates security tokens. Now obviously they don’t really believe that, given the discussion in their whitepaper about creating legal templates for offering security tokens, but it’s what they focus on in their blogs and conferences. Do you know why they focus on KYC?
It’s because it’s what we all understand and are familiar with. We’ve heard KYC and AML many times as it is an important requirement for most exchanges – that familiarity makes us feel comfortable with the idea that KYC will go a long way to creating security tokens. Is it any surprise, then, that they also decided to name their token standards ST20, after ERC20? Again, it’s all about creating a feeling of familiarity which provides investors comfort.
However, KYC being baked into the tokens really doesn’t do much aside from possibly limit who can hold the tokens to accredited investors only. This would be useful if the purpose of Polymath was to issue security-exempt tokens, but then it wouldn’t be too different from other ICOs which have attempted to satisfy regulation D or regulation A requirements. This is clearly not the focus of Polymath either given their goal of wanting to tokenize existing public securities which are obviously already registered.
There are a dozen other red flags with Polymath as well. For example, Trevor constantly boasts about the size of Polymath’s Telegram which hit the 50k cap prior to Telegram boosting it to 75k. From my understanding, and I will preface this by saying I am by no means a Telegram expert, but I’m fairly certain to get all the info related to the airdrop, you had to sign up to their Telegram. In other words, people just signed up for free tokens so the growth wasn’t organic, yet Polymath talks about it all the time.
Then you have the fact that the distribution of the tokens is … questionable to say the least. 1% is distributed out via the airdrop, with the remaining 99% being held by presale purchasers, founders, advisors or in “reserve” which I’m still not totally sure what that’s all about. Trevor has mentioned the reserve in passing a few times, but it’s generally obscure language so I’d love if anyone had any sources out there on what Polymath plans on doing with this overwhelmingly large portion of the supply.
Moving on, Trevor has mentioned repeatedly how easy Polymath wants to make the process of creating a security token, which is complete stupidity as creating securities is a serious endeavor that shouldn’t be taken lightly or be easy to do. Seriously, some of the barriers that exist now are very welcome because it prevents complete boneheads from creating securities – a feature that clearly DOESN’T exist when it comes to creating utility tokens given the magnitude and volume of stupid ICOs.
It’s also completely false because the process of creating a security will never be easy for as long as regulations exist, and Polymath has ZERO control over that. They make it sound like it will be easy to create legal templates for security tokens, but I guarantee you that this will NOT be the case… and yeah that’s right, I used the G word.
There’s also some less significant warning signs like the fact that Tai Lopez (of all people) is going to be at their Polycon event in the Bahamas. Then there’s the fact that the project is supposedly just under a year old and really seems to have only ramped up conveniently after the global crackdown on ICOs last year. If you look at their team, it looks like they have far more in-house resources in management than they do in developers for example. These are all things that concern me, but by themselves might not be that substantial. It’s really only once you start adding it up with all the other factors that it becomes rather concerning.
If you’ve survived to this point in the video, you might be wondering why in the world I’d ever buy Polymath and the answer is simple: It is brilliantly marketed and right on time. That’s it, that’s all there is to it. It will fool the plankton, it will fool the VCs, it will fool the angel investors, it will even fool many developers and lawyers because it all sounds incredible on paper. It’s not until you start delving into the reality that this pipeline dream falls apart, but fortunately the crypto space hasn’t grown smart enough yet to pick apart projects like this because it’s too focused on who’s who and very idealistic visions.
The point is, this project will persuade many people – and what I like about it most is that it will even convince rich and powerful people … who are the ones that actually matter. This is the kind of project that gets posted on Reddit over & over for a month because quote: “The opportunity is massive and it will change a trillion-plus dollar industry.” This is the kind of project that stirs up community leaders and gets them excited because they all see the writing on the wall for ICOs and Polymath is right on cue. You don’t think that’s a coincidence do you?
The management team at Polymath seems to know all the right people in all the right places, and they are working hard on using that network resource to belt out as many heavyweights as possible. Honestly I think this makes the quality of the project worse, not better, because it usually pulls projects into gridlock and dilutes the overall vision, but most crypto investors LOVE a team and advisor board with great resumes and Polymath delivers on that.
They’re also utilizing their network to create as many partnerships as possible and if you are familiar with the previous altcoin boom, you know that the word “partnership” was enough to send any crypto flying the same way the word “blockchain” would send any company’s stock flying. It’s a common metric by crypto investors on the success of a project and Polymath can easily deliver on that front, especially given the quality of the partnerships rarely matter.
The key to mitigating risk with a project like Polymath is to keep a close eye on their vesting schedule as detailed in their Github so you don’t get backhanded by supply surges when tokens are released. Furthermore, you generally want to limit your exposure to tokens that claim they’re the next revolution in xyz industry because that’s usually a sign of going to the moon … or much more frequently, complete and utter failure.
I would also consider not allocating 100% of your desired position size all at once in a project like this because even if you miss out by not doing so, you’ll feel a lot better if it goes down and you can buy more rather than having to be stuck with expensive bags. Always remember the pain of a loss has twice the effect as the pleasure of a gain.
Lastly, I want to briefly mention that at this time, there are limited options for where to get Polymath so if you don’t feel technically comfortable with joining a new exchange and the steps involved with securing your tokens, I would stay clear of this. Trust me on that.
Before I close out here, I want to say that this is obviously not financial advice so do your own due diligence… You know the drill. I’d love to hear your thoughts on Polymath. Do you agree with me? Disagree with me? Not sure where you stand? Let me know in the comments below. Thanks for watching / reading.
I love your thorough research. I also watched countless videos of trevor koverko. You mentioned lots of thing that seem scammy, I've noticed some of them myself and it makes me worry a bit.
But let's come down to earth. Polymath can't be a scam. The people behind it are really incentivized to make it work. The money is not in hyping a coin to the top 100 on coinmarketcap. The real money will come when a few companies launch successful securities and then traditional investors will start jumping on board.
I don't think that anything will happen unless they prove with a concrete example that their system works. I guess we have to wait for tzero and see what happens.
Also, I don't agree with the fact that polymath presents itself as an exchange. Although it may be confusing for some people, if you read carefully the sentence you highlighted in the video it makes perfect sense with what they have written in the whitepaper. By marketplace they mean the market where investors pay in POLY to get verified and issuers pay in POLY to issue their security token.
Also, I didn't find tzero to be ambiguous about being an exchange. In all the interviews I have seen, they even claim that they will list companies in the next 12 month on their exchange. They are not trying to avoid regulations as you said. Their website is also very clear in tzero's purpose.
Finally, we should forget the fact that companies are DYING to list securities on anything related to blockchain. We have seen what happened with Kodak changing their name and so many other stories. Many companies will line up to be listed on tzero. Steven Nerayoff said on record that they have lots and lots of companies asking about this "with a significant percentage of those being already public". If this is not true it is just too blatant of a lie. I don't see such people ruining their reputation so heavily.
Anyway, I have to agree that this whole thing doesn't feel right all the time. But, everyone has all the incentives in the world to make it work, even the SCC for increased tax revenue. I like the fact that you still recommended the strong buy.
I want to clarify that I didn't call Polymath a scam nor do I personally think it is one. But there are a number of suspicious factors about it which lead me to believe that this isn't going to be the security token platform that blasts off.
If their platform completely relies on Tzero (which it kind of does for providing liquidity), then that's already an awful start. I'd like to say that even though it's clear to people who spend a bit of time researching the project, it's obtuse to anyone who quickly glances at Polymath - which is supported by the fact that I've seen a lot of people claiming that Polymath will provide the means to exchange the tokens itself with liquidity when it really isn't - it's just connecting to other platforms that do which are either not functional yet or don't have enough liquidity to be meaningful.
The biggest concern is the idea that a legal template can be created at all for security tokens. It's near impossible to launch a legitimate, registered security token right now even if you AREN'T trying to build a template for future ones to use. That's part of the reason why there are so many aiming for Regulation D / A rather than the registered security route. The fact they want to try and automate this with OUTSOURCED legal delegates? All I am going to say is good luck - It'll work fine until it grows large enough that the SEC, FSA or any of the dozen other agencies decide to intervene. Then all of a sudden it will likely become clear that the "security tokens" launching on the platform really haven't been securities - I wouldn't want to take that risk myself.
And for the companies lining up to go on the blockchain - It's MOSTLY because of the buzz surrounding the word "blockchain." It's a massive opportunity because so much capital is flowing in the region - but I don't know how much of it is honest demand vs. how much of it is a cash grab.
I appreciate your comments as always, know you've been following here a while. I like having comments that are well stated which disagree with me - hope you stick around.
I have an active account with kucoin, don't trade much but hold a couple of obscure coins. I am still hesitant to buy POLY, i haven't looked hard until watching your video....wasn't much of a pitch, but then you didn't exactly trash it either. I will look further but...somehow i can't see this taking off anymore than i can see VERI ever taking off....lots of promise but somehow i don't trust the "pitch". Putting markets or stocks on a blockchain is just too far down the road and will require way to much oversight IMHO.
Just wanted to add you are by far the best crypto channel out there :)
Keep doing what you do!
How will there be "first companies that launch succesful securities" if there is no cooperation with the legal regulators? No cooperation means no first company to launch a security, means no users, which means no use for tzero's intended purpose.
"the market where investors pay in POLY to get verified and issuers pay in POLY to issue their security token"
So the investor pays the issuer and then the issuer pays the investor? What is the investor investing in? In this scheme there is no company to invest in and even if there was, the company couldn't offer POLY as a security if it's not backed by legal regulators.
Why would the legacy institutions that Polymath wants to convert be happy to do so?
I like your take. We are placing a lot of faith in Tzero providing the necessary platform and liquidity. The way the crypto environment works seems to favor a project like this gaining momentum. I mean Cardano's market cap baffles me every time I see it. You can be a "work in progress" and gain serious momentum. I think we have at least a year before Poly's feet start to get held to the fire if things aren't working. Ever single coin has serious fundamental issues, so there is no safe project to be associated with.
Agree
Thanks man, I appreciate the review and the measured/contrarian tone. I'm personally a little tired of the crypto hype cycle.
Polymath is the latest in a long string of flavor of the week (except in crypto everything moves so fast - more like flavor of the hour). At this point, give me something I can see and/or use: I'm about good idea-ed out, actually. Crypto has a TON of good ideas, with very few working products. We're moving in the right direction, but I'm just a bit worn out.
What I hope for this year is more practical application, less theory. I'm more of a hodler instead of a day trader: I've decided that I'm okay with missing out on 100x. I'm tired of chasing every new flash that emerges and getting more excited about integration and practical use cases. Just the thought of opening a new exchange account, buying, sorting out a wallet, etc. is exhausting. Maybe I'm just getting crypto-old :)
Nothing against Polymath. I wish them well. If I miss the boat, I miss the boat, but I feel like I'm in enough boats already :) Once it's more established maybe I'll give it a look, but definitely not interested at this stage.
Practical applications are still some time away, hoping we start seeing some good ones prop up in about 5 years. Technology still needs a bit of time to evolve to work out a lot of the current quirks we are dealing with, especially as more cryptoassets begin to scale. It will be especially interesting to see what happens with DAGs once we start seeing some of those cryptoassets become adopted more and increase in network stress testing.
Like many white papers in the crypto space, Polymath (if you close your eyes and dream of rainbows and unicorns) sounds really impressive. It's not that their ideas, in theory, are not good or maybe even potential in the very long term. The problem here is the same problem that keeps recurring. We have startups that can write out beautiful ideas without having any sort of inroads, legitimate working relationships with serious industry players or, in all cases at this stage in crypto, an underpinning technological platform that is capable of scaling to even meets the technical needs of their IDEAS if they did happen to have a functional product and the working relationships to actually execute on their ideas. Pie in the freaking sky. With the level of "idea-creep" that we are going through right now, I wouldn't be surprised if WorldCoin is next to arrive with a "genius" hedge fund douche leading the project with the scope being something on the order of consolidating the entirety of the worlds economic activity onto a single platform with its associated crypto able to facilitate every single transaction (financial, legal, moral, sexual, blah, blah) with its underlying coin, simply named TRANSACT.
Yawn. Show me a stable, scalable, fully decentralized crypto that can gain mass adoption, integration with a critical mass of businesses and not be obliterated by the governments of the world and then we can talk about the latest, greatest coin taking over every aspect of the existing business environment.
The one part I prefer about more traditional fundraising is that even though it's a pain in the ass, at least it forces people to dedicate their lives to a project for a while - some real "sweat equity" - before being able to raise a dime. The ICO model is broken - and while Polymath may not technically be an "ICO," they basically created money out of thin air like everyone else has by pre-selling then launching the token and creating a multi-hundred million dollar asset out of very little on a technical front (check their Github).
Of course, this commentary is NOT limited to Polymath - it is true of many ICOs, where the creators often don't have the same level of sweat equity as a traditional start-up founder (or in this case, the sweat equity is all spent on privately raising capital, marketing and beautiful conferences in the Bahamas). Part of what I love about guys like Vitalik is that they do have that sweat equity, so even if I don't always agree with him (or someone like him), I still respect him and his thoughts.
The creators don't have (and don't really need to have) any amount of sweat equity in their projects because in this frothy environment, nobody even expects them to (which, I know, is stating the obvious) because, I feel, much of the equity flowing into these projects is pure short term speculation. So, from the creators point of view, they don't care about proving out the validity of their concept because they know they'll get the money they desire. From the "investor" point of view, they don't care (in aggregate) about the validity of the project either because they only want to ride a short term hype bubble to a quick 500%, then claim investor victory. This is a caustic situation for all involved and those who are not paying attention and get caught in the hype at the ATH for a particular project will pay dearly for this two-way moral hazard.
Exactly!
So in summary... They want to write a smart contract, distribute tokens, and outsource everything else. Step one, token. Step two, profit. Sounds like most ICO's with a regulatory twist.
I think your breakdown is spot on. The project has the wheels to do big things in the short term but long term success will depend on Polymath's ability to adapt to regulations and innovate in the securities market.
This project feeds into the crypto community fears(regulation) and is structured such a way that it can be vague enough to give speculation (the whole thing that drives the market) thoughts that it can be as big as they claim it could be.
I agree that the potential upside might rise this up to the attention of bigger investors. How far up is the question.
Oh boy, combined with, 'it looks like they have far more in-house resources in management than they do in developers', it makes me nervous.
Nice job on this one.
Besides all the outsourcing that token distribution looks almost as bad as ZCL's massive selloff today.
This reminds me of what my old man told me as a kid "If you put shit in a Tiffany box...it's still shit when you open it up later"
A real shiny shill coin that's all concept...and that's it.
I appreciate the perspective provided with your post. This is one of the spaces that I truly believe that there is a lot of potential given the amount of securities in the global markets. It can truly bring efficiency to the space as we still today deal with 3 day settlements in trading securities. I saw Polymath as a type of Investment Banker that connects capital seekers with investors utilizing their platform. I see tzero as the actual exchange and/or broker/dealer. However, I may be biased as I did participate in the airdrop and am interested in the tzero project as well. However, I do agree that we are still in very early periods for these concepts to become viable given the lack of regulatory clarity.
I'm with you. This space could be huge. 90% of the coins out there have no chance of being huge, so better to take a chance on something like this since we are early and can probably exit with solid profits well before the ship sinks do to legal complications. I hope tzero is the exchange because this idea is screwed without it.
"How many ICOs and crypto projects have been registered with the SEC? = 0"
"How many ICOs and crypto projects are on the list to register with the SEC? = 0"
Hmz.... Polymath?
PS: Great video, I reposted it in my article too! Great insights into Polymath.
Thank you for making this video. This is literally the first systematic review I have seen that found serious faults with Polymath. I jumped on the Polymath bandwagon when this thing first hit IDEX at 80 cents so it has done really well for me thus far. They claim to have 50k investors already lined up for their securities tokens of which they claimed to have over one thousand interested parties for launching said tokens. Obviously, no way to fact check that unless you know any of those would be investors presuming they exist.
Trevor is a marketer and network builder and that is about it. I have watched both those videos you showed in full. The repetitive nature of his responses doesn't bother me, but the exchange situation certainly does. I do wish that Tai wasn't going to be speaking at Polycon. There is certainly room for an internet and social media marketing adviser on the team, but that doesn't mean we need Tai on stage. He and Trevor go back a ways and there is actually an hour long interview of Trevor on Tai's Youtube which ironically talks about the Poly project very little and instead jumps around the crypto space.
This brings us to the fundamental problem with crypto: almost everything is overvalued right now. I still don't know what exactly Tron is looking to accomplish, but they have great marketing and remain in the top 20. Cardano and EOS are a ways away yet they are giants in market cap. I think Polymath easily cracks one billion market cap, maybe even two before the year is out. The flip side of Trevor is having a tech genius lead your project and that presents obvious challenges in different ways. I think the key on a lot of these tokens is that you have to beat the crowd and get in before the pump. I did really like your point about how a lot of rich people who don't know much about crypto will get sucked in to this.
Once more thanks for this objective review. I think I will take out some profit a little earlier now to protect myself and then let the rest ride what I predict s going to be a huge hype machine because there are no serious security token competitors as far as I can tell. Templum hasn't updated their blog since like October of last year.
Great video. Can you do a comparison with BnkToTheFutures's ICO?
https://bf-token.bnktothefuture.com/#!/
Bnk has a real team and platform. Missed out on their ICO as a U.S. investor unfortunately
Nice work on the deep dive. Agree with you on this one. The tokenomics are terrible. Becoming a security token probably will require something like a 10-K filing and SEC reports.
That said, I do hold a few POLY from the airdrop! We'll see what happens.
Free my friend is good lol.
As an investment vehicle,im passing as well. Way too many questions,not enough answers.
I totally agree with your analysis apart from where you state this might be a good investment. Seems to me this is a top heavy, marketing driven team, short on developers and any disruptive tech. They do not want to be responsible for anything , will not simplify the process of regulating securities tokens, and I can't see why KYC providers or stock markets would want to partner with them. But as you say they are very good marketeers so maybe they will get some traction.
I am still on the fence with this one ☝️ it to many we are this but we’re not...🤔🤔🤔🤔 I need to see how things go before I will invest my time, money 💰 and energy into this one.
It comes to no surprise to me that polymath is a scam.
I'm really happy to see that you made a video about this.
I already had my doubts about this project months ago when I started noticed that Polymath was literally spammed in ads EVERYWHERE!
This Poly was being shoved down your throat so badly it's almost like they didn't even want to have it. But to me it just meant I was never ever going to take this thing seriously.
I don't respond well to being forcefed.
Well, Blockchain, unfortunately has became more of a "get rich quick" scheme for few crooks. Thus, whenever we hear "ICO", it sends warnings to our brain.
But it does not mean, we cant make money out of it. As long as we do not end up like Bitconnect shills. (you all know who)
But I am really hopeful about blockchain technology. I hope we come out of Proof-of-Stupidity and have real practical use cases more. I expressed this feeling here.
Yeah man I agree with you.. Thus so much money in marketing like youtube in such early stage.. Overvalued obvs
Cool, following you. Whats your current favorite coin/token?
Don't think it's vapor ware.
https://github.com/PolymathNetwork
However, it does seem like the SCC would have to almost anoint it to accept securites.... Now with all the $$$ heading into Tzero. That is probably where the real action is going to be at?
Polymath, doesn't add up = Scam.
You have a gifted ability of insight. This channel is a gift. Thank you!
Great video and content. Polymath has far too much hype.
If this network is on Ethereum, why not just buy more Ethereum?
Because it's not an ICO. You cannot buy any Poly with ethereum. All poly does is use ethereum's smart contract technology. I believe that once the EOS mainnnet will lauch, Polymath will move to EOS because that way they will be able to scale.
You've just stated exactly why one should buy ether since its based off of ether's smart contract.
Where I stand? Stand in awe, of the pertinent fundamental sleuthing. I couldn’t find it in the deck or in the whitepaper but, I’m hoping you were able to find and deductively traverse their roadmap without falling down a chasm. Is a timeline of accomplishments leading to an MVP date range, too much to ask?
So it's still worth a gamble?
I just see the I ❤ Huckabees character in this Polymath CEO
You posted :
Filed a bug report for that.
https://github.com/steemit/condenser/issues/2576
Damn, good catch @transisto! Missed that myself while posting this that the text wasn't even showing up.
I can't find their team page anymore, they have taken it down. Tai Lopez had announced he was an advisor on his channel during an interview with Trevor. It's kind of weird coz as Tai mentions it, Trevor stays silent, and then says something like "If you behave". Great video as always, I had my doubts about Polymath and I feel better now.
CI you trully are a beacon of honesty in this very muddy field. Keep em coming. Once again excellent research and an excellent product. ALl the best
Thank you for providing what this community needs most : education from people who have experience in traditional markets and staying down to earth
Once again a great video with a lot of great points. This is what we need in this space.
Think you need to change your name to 'Crypto Investigator'! Such great research/ brutal shakedown. Love your work, as always! Thanks for the excellent, no BS info. 👍
Do you have any holdings on polymath tokens or any other securities tokens?
Well I do believe that security tokens will change todays financial systems. Eventually we probably will see most securities on the blockchain. But I doubt that Polymath will be in existance at that point.
Great video, I would love to see such an analysis of a project which would have a real chance to be successful from your point of view? I am thinking of maybe OMG, ICX, Kyber or something like that.
the concept may be a good idea, but the execution will be key. And with most ICOs and Polymath, we havent seen any execution, yet.
Also to have a couple of advisors, who claim to have bought Ethereum and Bitcoin at 0.40$
Very good analysis and research. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is ;) I have high doubts that you can build regulated security tokens approved by the SEC at this stage of the crypto space. Be careful.
What do you think about crypto price predictions from https://longforecast.com/ ?
Hello,
I know you said, that there aren't many exchange options for polymath, but I was wondering, whether there is some easily accessible platform, where EUR, BTC or ETH exchange for this currency would be possible, that you, or one of the fellow commenters knows of, to allocate a small portion of my assets into Polymath.
Best,
David
You raised an issue that securities tokens are nowhere to trade yet.
There has been recently an ICO which sort of went under radar of majority ICO youtubers and various ICO spreadsheets. GBX is a new blockchain-based exchange launching in April 2018 in Gibraltar https://gbx.gi/. They plan to trade cryptocurrencies-fiat, tokenized securities as well run ICO. Their ICO was very well organized and ran smoothly.
Their ambition is to become a leader in tokenized securities. Gibraltar’s government has adopted in 2018 new legislation which completely covers this venture from legal point of view. This is definitely a project to keep an eye on. They plan to do everything Polymath does plus the exchange itself. And the GBX team and their partners dont look like a joke at all.
Very complete post which underlines the limit of Polymath's promises. I am not English speaking and I wanted to ask your permission to translate your position into French for the benefit of my community.
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