Bunnypuncher Daily contest is over. It has been pointed out why. The bunny has been broken :(

in #contest6 years ago (edited)

I apologize this has gotten far too negative which is my fault. I'll consider it closed and move on. Thank you everyone that supports me and sorry to those that don't like me. But, reflect on what happened here so lessons are learned and the platform improves for it.

Bunnypuncher gets knocked out for the count by @adm I hope they got what they wanted.


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This down vote stuff has me a bit irritated at the moment since I don't feel like I should be on a blacklist. I try and do good for the community and having a bot blacklist me just makes me aggravated. However, that isn't the communities fault so I'll do my contest like normal for now. I of course adore my followers and friends on Steemit nothing against you guys.

Read about the blacklist / downvote problem:


https://steemit.com/contest/@bunnypuncher/i-must-have-punched-the-wrong-bunny-this-time-and-i-am-on-some-blacklist

Random winners

@fandy
@jemuel
@mahdisteem
@diogosantos

Bunnypuncher's picks


@vikasgoel1234
@macoolette
@hoodchef - best idea of the day. down vote bots need a community veto

@bpclan picks

@cryptojiang
@sabari18

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Thank you everyone that has been upvoting and participating in my other contests. This is the Last contest so no need for the rules or disclaimer anymore.

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What a negative mess I have created I shouldn't have posted this as a topic. Such a shame to end on a negative note I hadn't ever intend this as I was caught off guard. I regret this whole mess of a post that I created before thinking things out more clearly. I was in a bad mood and should have stayed away from the keyboard.

Bunnypuncher quits Steemit and the price skyrockets the irony :)

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@bunnypuncher i'd also post the user who owns that bot, grittenald is the person, not sure if you saw on adm's posts.. what you did wasn't bad to warrant being blacklisted.. and you shouldn't have to pay a thing...

Thanks I might contact them once to see if this could be cleared and they apologize for punching me first.

np.. they should pay for the blacklisting to, as you've not really done anything bad..

Yea right I'd eat my bunny tail if they did that.

They claim that their publications are repetitive and you do not publish quality content for this reason they put you on the blacklist. From time to time, you can post quality content can talk about your dissatisfaction with negative comments, but a comprehensive and detailed publication.

Also I'm never going to pay 40 STEEM to get off the blacklist if they are serious with that.

I'm sure english isn't your native language. I'm not sure I'm following what you are saying. And I don't know who they are and they haven't told me anything as far as I know. It isn't exactly hard to find me. I'm right here they can post the issue if they want and I'd be happy to work with them and change things up after all I'm not a script or a bot but a person. I'm flexible and out to work with others to create a nice fun contest environment where everyone wins. If that isn't what they (who ever they are) doesn't like well then not much to done here and I move on. Repetitive contest is now over and no more winners or topics will ever be discussed by me.

It would have been very easy to say on a post or two of mine something like:

Hey bunny your posts are kind of repetitive (even if you have different winners and topics everyday) could you change XYZ. Like use a green, red, and purple bunny on different day. I would have done that. Or even hey everyday is a bit much only do every other day or every three days. I would have discussed it politely and worked to comply with the community. But that wasn't ever done so this is the result. In my opinion everyone loses but what does one bunny know anyway.

And until today I have never in any post mentioned negative comments or dissatisfaction so it is obvious my posts haven't been read either way.

"They" should come and discuss the abuse they heap on to others based on their (whoever they are) views. But I know that isn't going to happen they used this nothing drone account to speak for them if that is in fact what this idiot is doing as I can barely tell what they are talking about. So a year of contests, goodwill, generosity, gifts, kindness toward others is not quality in their eyes. That is about as much of a jerk as one person could be toward another's persons work without the dignity to tell them with a genuine account as they should be ashamed of themselves. Well you can hide behind this drone and @adm. You and your group of steemit defenders @Steemcleaners will need to live with having killed this bunny and his contest. Maybe I didn't have great content but I was a decent person to contribute to the blockchain the way I did helping and giving to others and the thanks you bestow upon me is down votes and ridicule. That hurts me and the blockchain. This could have ended much differently with everyone winning and happy to be a part of this community but I wasn't worthy of a comment to change whatever bothered you. So this negativity is what you get back from me for your lack of consideration.

Meanwhile you have the upper echelon coming not only to watch the performers but the reactions of the peasants. So I bet the perpetrators will read every comment on your posts possibly going to be affected.

Yep they are probably laughing their asses off at my expense I bet. While counting the Steem they get for downvoting in the last 12 hour window they steal from the whole block chain. Them downvoting this way nets them profit they drain from the block chain that most don't know about. Talk about add insult to injury. Well the only offense I have left is I hope karma bite them in the ass one day for doing this to people. They are going to ruin that which they profit off by doing this.

What do I think? Bots have a purpose yet many abuse them, this causes problems for people that get caught in the conflict. Many of which will not understand why or have any knowledge as to their progression into the line of fire. There are so many unspoken rules and those with he power and intention to enforce the rules do not wish to be known as that individual.

hypothetical
Bestow me the power and I’ll be the polite d00k13sanders 😉 I would just need the selections not be mine to curate but I will be glad to explain why thus like your situation working off a flagging bot. It’s the explanation, no comments and no posts means no possible incoming downvote. They are afraid of their own game, but why is it that bad to wander around with negative rep? Sure I have worked hard to get here but with a duty to uphold some agenda with rules education to the abusers will also subdue those who have not yet abused.
end of hypothetical

my post explains it well - Word of the day “Comments” - we are seeing what would be called a historically accurate audience. For longer then not the audience of any performance could abuse the performers. It was up to the performers to subdue the audience well enough to be able to finish in the first place. Yet with this anonymous situation it’s like having no idea what they are feeling to know to switch up your performance. Shakespeare had to strategically stitch comedy with drama not only for the mood of the play but also keep the audience from getting to bored and throwing food. Meanwhile you have the upper echelon coming not only to watch the performers but the reactions of the peasants. So I bet the perpetrators will read every comment on your posts possibly going to be affected.

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I really would never want anything like this to happen and would have worked to prevent. I'm regretting this has gone too negative already. I should just stop the contest and let it go. Acting like I am is bad for the platform and isn't good for anyone. I'm not even liking it myself. However, I hate being walked all over too and I don't think I was given a fair chance to fix this. And I'm not the only one. Many others have posted their experiences also here on this post and on others. I just happened to be the largest one so have the duty to point it out. The community can decide I'm wrong and have been adding no value my contest and posts are crap (that is their right). If everyone thinks that way I'll go away and reflect that I need to improve. But the feedback I have gotten from many people is they are happy to win my contest, read and comment on the daily topics, and like what I'm doing. I don't usually generate negative feedback and I would guess most would say I'm a decent person not some out for himself asshole.

I'm using the bot profit to give to smaller accounts. Bots don't make high returns any more if people think I'm getting rich well they just need to do the math to figure out I'm more like Robin Hood than an evil banker.

No you never did get a fair chance, largely that’s the issue with bots. Then looking at the fact of the solution being 40 good posts before a payment will be accepted, that’s just extortion in the name of good. With no ability to veto its criminal. I was pleased to comment, definitely intrigued enough to try my own giveaway. Why? I seen it as a positive! What’s the point of a post if it isn’t both about the content and comments alike? Look at the comments, whether or not it’s paid advertising people show interest and get rewarded with more then just entertainment.

I have always thought Steemit is about the interaction not just the specifics of the quality of the post. If we want to play your lottery let us play your lottery!

Now sure you may have gotten carried away but this backlash is ridiculous, why not define the line for you to walk and all is fair?

I think the big argument of who gets rich is really now looking at the whales and punishing the users still. Yet it’s all considered rewards pool rape?

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I'm not going to try and redistribute it from bot to new accounts any longer. The community spoke and I will listen and stop what I was doing since it is considered spam. I meant well at least sorry to those it offended.

This is a travesty. A contest is not spam. Starting conversations is not spam. Maybe they're worried about STEEM/SBD's price drop.

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I like bots that down vote scammers and abusers, but when they down vote the good people of steemit they make a huge mistake! I have also been downvotet by bots for giving back to the community, its not fun, and if they continue to down vote good people on this platform they will for sure kill this platform, people will leave steemit if they get to many down votes, and that will kill the whole steemit ecosystem.

I really hope you can figure this Sh*t out, and never pay the blackmailers anything! they are the scammers who should get downvoted...

I will try and get to the bottom of this. If the majority of people dislike what I’m doing with the contests then I will end them for the good of community. I’m not one to do evil unto others.

Contests are not evil, keep up the good work you are doing!
let me know if they keep downvoting you, maybe I can talk with some of my bigger friends :)

You should tell your bigger friends this is an issue with these two. It isn't just me that has been impacted. It seems they don't always play nice here on Steemit.

I will talk with them and see what they say and what they can do with this problem :)

That is most kind of you to offer you help. My only wish is that this flag attack not be done to others smaller than me to discourage them from the very start. At least I had a fun time for a while some minnows never get that chance due to down vote attacks from folks like these two. I can see where I deserve this as I did get over zealous in my efforts to have contests.

Contests are good, they help the community, makes more people engaging in the community and make this platform flourish.
There are a lot of others that have had contests and not being flagged, like @onebitnews (even tho they have stopped, but its not because of flagging) and I also have contest going on all the time, atleast i try to have contest ongoing all the time. @norgesarkaden had only contests, but he havent been on steemit for some months now, not sure why..

I hope you will come back with more contests in the future, or make a new account you can run contests on.

Hi @bunnypuncher all these negative votes come for a group of users who think that giving negative feedback to those who invested heavily sum of steemdollar in bots to upload their ad will help steemit to stabilize the platform and thus be able to last longer.

But if you analyze these users who give negative feedback are those who abuse more of the voting bots, then with what moral they give the negative votes.

They claim that their publications are repetitive and you do not publish quality content for this reason they put you on the blacklist. From time to time, you can post quality content can talk about your dissatisfaction with negative comments, but a comprehensive and detailed publication.

I do not agree with these negative votes since investing in bots nowadays is not profitable because it brings losses and an unscrupulous user who gives him downvote will force him to stop doing his contest.

You have a great option, you can do your contest every 2 days and so the day you do not do the contest publishes something about what you like to do, your hobby, etc.

What they are doing is called a 'protection racket'. They go around smashing people's businesses while saying they are protecting the community by doing that. To stop the violence, they want you to comply with some of their demands. It's organised crime.

Too bad I'm on the losing side I guess. At least I can make it a bit more visible before I just quit with my contests and such. One last attempt to be a Cool Dude I guess.

If people don’t like what I’m doing I’ll stop. Money I make from the bots is what funds the giveaways if people prefer I’ll just stop. It isn’t like I’m making a huge profit by giving away most of what I make. I was under the impression the majority of people like and support what I’m doing. This has been running for almost a year without any down votes. In fact this negative $21 dollar vote was the biggest non bid bot vote I ever got. It’s just ashame it wasn’t an upvote for a change.

a digital revolution already?! we've only just begun.

I'm taking your advice and stopping daily contests. I guess I was going overboard and crossed the line to spammer.

You can continue with your contest, but not every day! I recommend you 2 times per week.

Make a small effort and try to publish content that you think is important to you: !! If you have no idea what to publish could read other articles and from there draw conclusions or give your opinion about it in a publication.

So I have you your permission to post huh no thanks I don't need it any longer. I quit!!!!!!

You do not have to ask for permission I'm just another user here in steemit ... I'm just trying to improve things ... I wish you luck in your new adventure here in Steemit.

I do not agree with these negative votes since investing in bots nowadays is not profitable because it brings losses and an unscrupulous user who gives him downvote will force him to stop doing his contest.

You have a great option, you can do your contest every 2 days and so the day you do not do the contest publishes something about what you like to do, your hobby

Bestow me the power and I’ll be the polite d00k13sanders 😉 I would just need the selections not be mine to curate but I will be glad to explain why thus like your situation working off a flagging bot. It’s the explanation, no comments and no posts means no possible incoming downvote. They are afraid of their own game, but why is it that bad to wander around with negative rep? Sure I have worked hard to get here but with a duty to uphold some agenda with rules education to the abusers will also subdue those who have not yet abused.
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@bunnypuncher This @adm bot blacklisting whales who are paying heavily to bots. so basically one of the bots whom u r paying heavily is blacklisted that's the whole reason. So if u can create one list of all bots services u r using and than it might be easy to figure it out.

I can figure it out easily and call out individuals. That is just too negative and gains nothing. I want the best for steemit continuing this adds no value, and I prefer to help than hurt the community. Seems I've done enough damage already. Everyone loses today in my opinion.

There really should be some kind of review board where you can protest a down vote. It's only happened to me once and I'm a newbie. I think it's someone just being petty and jealous of your success and popularity on this platform. I hope you're able to resolve the matter soon

I read the post, and I saw this so called blacklist says you have to behave 40 posts and then send 40 steem.. sorry but this sounds really fishy to me! I would try to find out more about that blacklist account first.. I mean you're giving away prizes, not robbing people...

I personally feel downvoting without letting people know why is not fair.. sometimes people don't even know they are doing something wrong that doesn't suit the platform well.. only way to change this is by giving them notice of this, so they can see what they will do with that..

Again, the amount they ask you to send to get of the list sounds fishy, I don't believe steemcleaners works like that either..

Good luck!

so i am joined now after the comment ?

As I said before, there should be a community veto. checks and balances of sorts. hope you get off the blacklist soon. let us know what we can do to help

I like that idea. I'm going to add you to the list of bunnypuncher's picks for today for having the best idea yet.

Whats a bot?

Like, seriously should've researched a bit but, I'd like to believe there's other people here who don't know what the fucks going on :D

A bot is a script that does automated actions on Steemit. In this case a bot (computer program) scans posts for "bad ones" and my contest was deemed evil. The bot then downvoted two of my posts for $20 dollars each. Which means those down votes caused me to lose $42 dollars I would have got.

This is so bad..
But I have been going through your contests and I haven't seen any that is evil..
What could have happened???

I don't know they didn't tell me or I might change what I'm doing so as to not trigger these down votes. But without knowing the issue what can I do.

Just keep doing you man. If it keeps happening you'll see a pattern.. then.. complain? Who's in charge here?

It has been two days in a row. We will see if it happens again. I'm not going to go around begging people to remove downvotes. I'll take it like a big bunny but I would like people to know about it. If it continues I will just stop doing contests and post other things or not all but I'm not going to get in a whale flag war.

Oooh so sorry @bunnypuncher. Seriously, I have been going through your blog on daily basis and your works are always great. I just don't know the kind of pleasure they are getting in downvoting your work. I think it's jealousy. This is really bad. I wish I could help you out.

I haven't had that problem so everything is fine.

It crazy here because politics everywhere around here, you see some trashy post and some people doing some crazy irrelevant things here and they won't get flag or down vote but the few that choose to give back to the community will keep getting flag by so dam anonymous bots. It just a crazy world we live in, getting shit while you trying to help can make you frustrated but all good, the good heart ones will never stop while does dam anonymous bots try to bring them down. @bunnypuncher keep the good work going.

this is really nice of you to do this nice giveaways. thank you for it!. btw bunny i am new in this site i allready invest 9.5 steem coin on steem power up. but i have no idea how to move from here i dont know what am i doing wrong. will be happy if you can help me . thank you . my dream it to be successful as you in this site .

Hopefully everyone moves to @markymarks blacklist api... which is maintained by an actual person and pretty great witness.

You have spoken absolute truth and I second you

To be honest I would prefer both upvoting and downvoting to not be done by bots. For the Steemit community to grow strong and for honest, informative and constructive post to be recognized, bots need to be taken out of the voting process altogether.

There is always a human being behind the operation. a bot is simply code and it is setup to do a certain thing, by a human being. This action is a form of economic terrorism played out by sociopaths who masquerade on this platform as do-gooders. the only thing that will stop them is mass action by users.

sorry I was masquerading as a do-gooder. my users can punch me back if they want.

no you misunderstood my friend, I was suggesting that others pretend to do good by calling others spammers and scammers. I don't see any suggestion that people involved in your contest have any reason to complain at all.

I know I shouldn't have said that I was just feeling pissy. I apologize you didn't deserve me to say that. I can see you are being helpful and kind I'm just in a mood now.

It's understandable my friend. You can find me in discord in that server, then we can converse more if you like whenever you like.

Thank you that is a very kind offer. I may take you up on it later I'm about done with negativity for today. It does't really get you very far in life and I'm past sick of complaining LOL

I know not about anything to be honest!

It‘s been quite a while I took part in your giveaways! Glad to see them still running and hope this downvote thingy resolves itself soon!

Good luck to all!

:( Unfortunately this was the last. I've been down voted and ridiculed for the posts I've done. People can judge for themselves if I deserve that treatment for my contests.

I know how you feel about the bots. I had another account and when i was starting off used to run contests that distributed all the sbd earned between some of the contestants.

The posts were very similar as it was a daily contest and the main text was a copy and paste. Unfortunatly after a while this flagged as spam for similar content and started getting downvotes.

The contest weren't big as i was a minnow and all the people were minnows but every day three people got a nice little transfer of sbd when they were only earning a couple of cents per post. There were about 5 more users on my level running similar contests and they all started getting downvoted at the same time.

It was so frustrating when we were all running a service that wasnt hurting anybody and people were getting paid out that some decided that it wasnt ggod for steemit and set bots against them.

What you do is great for steemit and adds to the site so i hope that this doesnt stop you from continuing to help people and run your contests.

May be someone hate giveaways and downvote it. I have the similar situation wiht downvotes. Punch em ;)

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Politics i guess

But you will be fine! Worry less

It's fine to use bots, but you need to supervise them.

I lost my words when I found out what happend.

I agree with a tool that allows people to express their unhappiness, but I don´t like the fact that the big whales can control everything, because the downvote affects the payment of the post, and a small account doesn't have impact on that...

I hope they are happy they ended the contests I did to try and help people (guess I didn't change the format enough each post whatever). Kindness and generosity is not wanted here is seems so I 'll stop. A sad day in my opinion but what does one old bunny know right.

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I dont think what you are doing here qualifies for a downvote, if anything there should be at least a number of warnings before taking such an action to downvote with such a high power.

I got no warnings, never been contacted by either of them, and can't get in touch with anyone that can help or cares. It is a shame cause I was trying to do good but guess the deck is stacked against me.

Bunnypuncher should continue with this giveaway to encourage newbies in Steemit.

GO AHEAD WITH THIS GREAT CONTEST! CHEER UP!

Sorry game over thanks to @adm and the blacklist-a whatever that is. I hardly make $20 a post after paying the bots and prizes so why would I bother if they make the contest run even more negative for me. I like helping people and want to be generous and kind to otheres. But some asshole to make it twice as expensive well I just won't do it anymore.

We all are @bunnypuncher

I was hoping to spread bpclan with a community vote bot I was programming. It was going to help spread votes to minnows in vote pools (kinda like steembasic income) but for bunnypuncher followers. No point in finishing that code as I'm sure it too would be considered spam by Steemcleaners and @adm. Any value added would be wiped away by this crap so why bother to make a community that would be destroyed by this type of cowardly attack to minnows.

Hi sir

I think the best thing is to find a way to communicate with the author of those flags, and try to resolve the issue, if it does not work, you could do the giveaways but otherwise, for example, only once or twice a week with a joke contest, photography, stories about favorite series or movies, etc ...

PS: I think they envy you.

Hello Mister BunnyPuncher! I would like to know if you don't mind how to join to the contest you are hosting? Thanks so much!

And btw as I am reading your post Mr. Bunny Puncher I guess, it isn't really good to down vote those who's intention is to help others as much as they can, some didn't realize that.

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Give me some SBD, and I'll give you the answer.

There are People with flag/downvote bots who would try to damage a number of independent users and communities of users for various reasons. From breaking the rules, through breaking unspoken rules, and doing stuff they believe should go agains rules to straight out wrongthink and being "problematic", having wrong opinion on a single subject. I don't think you can do anything about it unless you quit the platform all together, but that means you let them win.

I will certainly feel bad if I am downvoted or flagged for reason I do not know. Much that there is no avenue to reach out to those who did such act.

I think downvoting or flagging should not be done by bots as bots can not rationalize. For humans, there should be a tool or mechanism for downvoters or flaggers to put their reasons or comments as to why they are doing such before the action finally takes place. It is something like a required field that you can not proceed to the next step until the field is filled up. Next to that, there should be an avenue for downvoted or flagged users to veto or at least clarify themselves.

This downvoting or flagging without notice or venue to discuss further is majority's concern. Steemit is decentralized but I hope the witnesses would give this a considerable thought.

You need not stop the contest for now. I suggest you still run it for few days or on alternate days and see how it goes.

I have stopped it forever as it was just deemed to be spam by Steemcleaners and I yield to their better judgement I guess.

I don't mean rebound with the same contest. As we mentioned earlier, something new...

Maybe I'll be back with something new and different. There are so many wonderful folks here it would be a-shame to be driven off by bullies disguised as protecters. But this really hasn't been a very good experience for this bunny who now feels dejected and worthless for his contribution to Steemit. So I dunno if I'll be back or not.

As you said, there are many wonderful folks here. It's your call if you're going to totally yield to those you called bullies. Is it worth it?

has a bunny ever punched the bunnypuncher for punching bunnies?

Like a punching circle jerk so to speak. Nope hasn't happened yet but one day I'm sure it will

Great work! I took part in few giveaways already but still no win yet. Wish me luck !

It is very sad what happened to you @bunnypuncher, I tell you that I have witnessed several flag wars and always the strongest wins. This flag war has made some, who are not small like most, desist from remaining on the platform. So I'm sorry to say it's not worth fighting them for. The saddest thing is that these actions do not really represent justice, just as there are people looting the platform.

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