Minnows useful HACKS.

in #chainbb-general7 years ago (edited)

Every minnow has seen the value of steem posts going down in last few weeks after HF 19 and complaining about it. By now most of steemers know the reason for it. If the minnows don't know it the 2 primary reasons for it are:
1) Fluctuations in market price of steem to Dollar. The posts are paid in dollars.
2) The amount of money that is being paid currently to the new posts and comments.

However the reason I am writing this post is to provide some useful hints to minnows based on my observations. Most minnows use bots like @randowhale, @booster, @minnowsupport, @minnowbooster and other bots, discord channels to upvote the posts which is understandable so that they can grow faster.

This is what most minnows do:

  1. Submit post to minnowsupport discord channel for upvote as soon as it is created.
  2. Send SBD to @randowhale, @booster, @minnowbooster as soon as the post is created.

Doing the above things in my experience causes the post to lose value over the next 7 days till it is paid. I was guilty of it too.

What I have started doing last few days?

  1. Submit to minnowsupport discord channel for upvote 13-14 hours before the blog is paid.
  2. Send SBD to @randowhale 13-14 hours before the blog is paid.
  3. Send SBD to @minnowbooster 16-17 hours before the blog id paid.
  4. Self upvote(if you believe in it) 13-14 hours before the blog is paid.

The key is to do everything LATE to get the maximum out of the upvotes from the bots.

This blog is only useful if you belive in the power of bots and are helpful in getting you paid more.

If I am wrong please comment and correct it.

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This post deserves a lot more upvotes and resteem than it has received. I am going to start the process now.

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What a great list of helping tools you have provided here. I was not familiar with these as of yet. But it seems like your tips could really help people start up in a better and enhanced way with their steemit accounts. My first 100 SP took a long time and even more effort to gain.

Thanks for the helpful comment. I am hoping people implement this and upvote this post as suggested ;)

OK thanks

Great hacks for minnows 🙌🏼

I am no expert on this one but thank you enough for sharing your thoughts. 🙃

we learn by sharing your mistakes. Hope it helps you.

Keep it up the good work! Your mistake makes you the person you are right now. 🙃

Thank you sir. Glad I am of some help to the steem network.

Thanks for the good information.

You are welcome.

you are welcome.

I found the boost by minnowsupportbot to be pretty similar no matter when it voted. The boost was about a dollar plus. Maybe i was doing something wrong lol.

yes the boost if dollar plus anytime buy if you ask it to upvote early it will lost that dollar value due to various reasons. So its better to ask for upvote before the paid voting closes.

Nice tips, I was also thinking same way, if something is losing value every day you want to shorten that period of time. Make sense. However some people are saying that upvoting with minnowsupport your post at about 20 minutes after posting, because of curation awards. Would like to hear your opinion on this. Thanks

Personally I haven't seen the benefits of it. If you find something that contradicts this let me know.

Hmmm interesting. Last minute ayy?

Thanks for the info! I've not tried minnowbooster yet so I'll check it out!

Thanks for sharing those information!

I categorise the people here into two categories bloggers and miners ... steemit has more miners than bloggers by a long shot at the moment I think ....
It is also discouraging to the bloggers who see poor posts kick the crap out of them on the votes when they have spent a lot of effort making a great post... Not that I am in either category lol As a poor writer and just cannot be bothered to go to the work of getting votes from the aforementioned methods ... So I will just keep having fun making a few laugh and offending others ....all in a days work lol...

Yes more miners here. But i like to use the system to my advantage since I am also not a good writer.

Been using these tips for some days now and it seems to be 100% accurate. Very nice as this is helping me move up through the ranks in a quick and efficiënt fashion. Awesome and good luck with future postings!

Well i'm guilty of this. I'll try and experiment your method and see the differene. Good post!

Not something I had considered. It actually makes sense though.

correction posts are paid in steem dollars not dollars. but everything else is great. thank you

very good. thank you

Ok ... Thanks :)

How to use @minnowbooster? it's blog is empty

I cant seem to find the post too. I saw it yesterday and the search is now returning too many results. He works similar to other bots. If I come across the post I will post it.

Alrighty, let's give this a try. I'll upvote you in 7 days 🤑

I will remind you when its on the last day ;)

I have observed the same and tried the experiment I posted in my post. Its getting views lol

I would disagree. Posts are only valuable on Steemit for the first few hours and first day at max.

Having an early boost from MSP and the bots seems an easy way to stay at the top of the Hot section of your topic. Or, even the Trending if you are lucky enough.

Waiting till the last minute might cost you some extra eyeballs, audience and future followers because your post fell into obscurity immediately.

Agree but 99% minnows arent as good bloggers like you ;)

So why do you think this is better? Isn't earlier use of the bots and submitting to PAL better because it will give your post more exposure in the beginning, will have a higher payout and therefore people will want to get in on the curation reward, most likely boosting the post to be more than what it would have been worth to wait. Thoughts on this?

I agree about the curation reward for bloggers who are good at writing. However 90% or more of the people on steemit arent good at it. So this post is intended for those who use those bots heavily to earn.

Ah, that makes a bit more sense actually haha.

Yea, I want to see the data. This sounds like the job for an experiment.

experiments are helpful yep

This is a really interesting strategy... makes my thoughts turn :) I hadn't caught on to the whole bot thing until yesterday. As a newbie, I found it well...honestly confusing as hell. So, you're talking about how you've upped your game using the bots more effectively but what are your thoughts about the cost to return? I have read some things saying that the bots aren't giving as much back anymore and I'm curious to know what you think about this. :)

you should not be using the bots blindly. You still need to look at their voting power. You still need some luck with % of VP you will get with bots. But I have found that voting late helps minnows avoid the losses daily.

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This is great information @hackerwhaker . . thank you! And what you are saying makes perfect sense.

I'm working on doing a write-up to see what the differences in payout are from sending beyondbits to various posts at different times. I think you are on to something here!

I did not know about these bots being able to upvote ones postes is that not the same as self upvote ? interesting something to think about thanks for sharing

Nice tips thank you brother! Upvoted resteemed and followed 😆

Wow, thanks for those tips!! Definitely going to try it out :)

late upvote will get more paid..

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