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RE: Do You Want a 50/50 Circle Jerk or a 25/75 Circle Jerk..?

in #busy5 years ago

Rational actors within a system will vote/do things in their best interests given the chance. That applies to witnesses and non-witnesses. I am going to argue that the 50/50 and 25/75 has nothing to do with why people aren't here.

I have been saying for awhile, Steem's problem is that everyone is relying on Steemit INC to come out with SMTs and somehow that will bring in a ton of people to the platform. Ethereum has all the smart contracts and have been fixing bugs in smart contracts for 3 to 4 years. SMTs are going to be extremely immature when they come out.

Steem also doesn't have anyone marketing anything from what I can tell its 0. The bitcointalk.org post about Steem is mostly people calling it a scam. Bitcointalk.org is a highly trusted go to for many in the crypto community, already you aren't going to get mass adoption from crypto community due to that. I'm not suggesting we go astroturf in there, but its pretty one sided with 95% of comments saying its a scam...

Steems great failure is that its poised to be a great solution to censorship and nobody knows about it, and those who do learn about it think its a scam.

Instead we see MILLIONS flocking to Minds.com and Gab and Voat, when Steem easily could have pulled in some of that crowd. I am only here because I deep dive into a lot of crypto stuff. Most of the people I talk to about Steem want nothing to do with it. I try to convert people from reddit(because reddit censors) and they look it up and see stuff about it being a scam.

Perception is reality for the (dumb)masses.

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Steems great failure is that its poised to be a great solution to censorship and nobody knows >about it, and those who do learn about it think its a scam.

Geez I wonder why...couldn't be people being flagged for differing opinions now could it. Seems I remember you dropping by shortly after I got here to flag the crap out of me for expressing my opposing views, unless there's abuse of the system or false, misleading, dangerous information being spread people shouldn't be flagged for disagreeing with others. If I remember correctly not only did you flag my comments you ran over to my blog and flagged everything there...and I think you then proceeded to write your own article where my name was added in a bad light among others you disagreed with. It's these kinds of tactics that scare people off, it's bad enough people make pennies for their efforts when they get here it's just appalling that others with more power can take the pennies away. The way you deal with stuff you don't like is not to upvote it not gather your friends and flag the crap out of it.

You were caught copying and pasting other people's content after receiving many upvotes from our group.

I contacted and got replies from the person you were taking content from, and got the whole story from them and informed them of what was going on. Its all on the blockchain on the posts we downvoted on. You were getting upvotes from us for awhile until we noticed it, wrongly getting Steem from our group upvote by plagiarizing. We removed our upvotes from your posts and downvoted you due to your plagiarism, and masking your posts as authentically written by yourself and trying to get upvotes from our group.

@freebornangel I see you upvoted this, its all on the blockchain everything that happened. I have nothing to hide and my reasoning and evidence is in the past comments we made and post we made on why Sunlit7 was banned.

EDIT: Here is the link to the proof. https://busy.org/@truthforce/content-thieves-banned-from-iw-curation#@truthforce/re-sunlit7-re-truthforce-re-practicalthought-re-truthforce-content-thieves-banned-from-iw-curation-20180610t001509842z

You said in your comment above " It's these kinds of tactics that scare people off" we don't need more plagiarists or people copying and pasting others content here.

Yes you contacted that person but they didn't know you where talking about me, that's why I sent you their emails to me granting me permission to publish her stuff. She suffers from a debilitating illness that keeps her from expanding onto Steemit that is why she grants me a right to promote her stuff for her. I sent that same verification plus some further conversations on the matter between her and I to steem cleaners and that's why it's noted as such on any of the post that I do publish of hers so people like you don't keep pushing a lie to justify what you did. Not that I want to speak ill in any way, shape or form of practical thought since him and I have moved beyond that and I get a good sense from him now that varying opinions are healthy for a platform and we have engaged in a positive manner in that respect since, you guys jumped on your friends bandwagon not by engaging in conversation but by attacking and striking out at me in a punitive manner. I can see from how you responded here you've only slightly improved since then pushing your false narrative to try and justify the attack, the only difference is you haven't flag me for my opinion and went over and flag anything open on my blog. Even your friend Canadian Coconut has come miles compared to you. I now engage on her platform all the time without my opinions being attacked as some sort of personal attacks on people but as merely a differing of opinion, I give many kudos to her and practical thought in their restraints now to tell the difference, we may not agree but it's okay to agree to disagree, just like it's okay to move forward and find something someday we may agree on. I see you are still miles off on that yet.

Plagiarism or making money from other's content is why you were flagged because you previously got a lot of upvotes from us before we found out. Upvotes were removed and some posts flagged(less than 5 I think and it was over with). Our operation, and Steemit as a whole doesn't exist to upvote people who copy and paste other's content(EVEN IF GIVEN PERMISSION). If we all we did was upvote content other people take from others, this site would be a dumpster fire of content thieves.

That isn't how the events of this transpired, as I had contact with them multiple times to ensure that is how things went down.

I really don't know why you want to keep trying to talk to me every now and then

You sir are a liar, I didn't even have five of her post pending at the time. It is explicitly explained that SBD was being forwarded to her, that money was coming out of my own pocket in payments to her because it wasn't worth or I didn't have any real worth worth powering down, that's why when you contacted her she was confused as to who you were talking about, I paid her under my legal name not under my screen name. I always paid her more than those pennies ever added up to. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone granting permission to another person to publish their stuff, it is well within the framework of the law. You fail miserably at trying to justify what you did. It was punitive and went way outside the scope necessary to flag me on the post upon which we engaged on, that's the real issue here, if you or anyone at your site disagreed about whether or not you should upvote my post from her that was an entire different subject and shouldn't have been woven into the dispute from another site for retaliation.

This was like a year ago and you still want to argue about the past.

Its simple, you copy and pasted other's content, our group is AGAINST that even if you had their permission, we upvoted it mistakenly and eventually noticed it was someone else's. Then we gave you some downvotes to neutralize the upvotes we gave/previously. You were then added to an extremely short list of people who were submitting copy and pasted content to the #informationwar tag, then you were banned from us upvoting you from the IW group.

You can still use #informationwar tag if you want, no one is stopping you. You just won't get upvotes from the group account.

I wouldn't help promote your group again if my life depended upon it. You have shown your true character of deception and lies towards me to excuse your bad behavior. Seems you will never learn.