There was a new user recently asking a question in our subreddit about steem/steemit, if some of you don't know, we have an active subreddit where we check in every now and then to see if some newcomers have any questions or would like a free Steem account through that gateway. If you have a reddit account feel free to subscriber to it at https://www.reddit.com/r/steemit
It currently has over 8300 subscribers but obviously not that active, cause why would people be active there when Steem exists. :)
Anyways, the question was as follows:
I responded with the following, it's actually pretty difficult to keep these things as short as possible since there's so much going on here which outsiders may have no idea of and the price definitely does not reflect on it because it mainly follows trends and what not.
This was also a good answer and the reply to it makes complete sense too:
@eonwarped added some of his thoughts as well about the subreddit and why that seems so inactive but always has a lot of lurkers weighing in when there's a need for it:
but to get to the point of why I started writing this post, there was this one user saying this which to me seems pretty funny.
So first off, why would anyone compare prices to it's all time high. I understand that Bitcoin has performed better since then than most altcoins but that alone should give you an idea as to why that is. Of course the ones at the top are going to perform better at a bear market cause they are getting way more attention than the rest. During the bull run most of the coins in the top 1000 on coinmarketcap were pumping, meaning even crap coins with no real potential or activity were going up - it was a complete gamble fest. Ask yourself why SBD pumped so much.
Now during the bear market though most of investors are mainly looking at the top ones and picking prices to get back in, of course there are always people looking at other ones too and especially at those still going strong with development and having a future potential, these are the smart ones that may get a much higher ROI on their investments cause of the time they put in to check which of these undervalued/oversold assets are still alive and well and working on scalability, adoption and the future.
The reason I like to compare it to Amazon shares is because similar to Amazon a lot of people don't understand Steem. Many think it's just a blogging platform, many have a lot of stigma about it because of the bad press it received early on, the big names that were tied to it who have now left, etc.
Here's the all time price chart of Amazon:
It started at $1.73 and went up to $100 after a few years and then back down to 7-8. Now compared to it Steem is of course a lot different, Steem has inflation you have to take into account and many other things that just can't be compared. If you just were to compare the charts for fun though, you can see that things won't just go up all of a sudden 1000%+, that's unrealistic unless there's a full on bull run starting seeing the same happening in Bitcoin, Ethereum and other giants - Steem can get pretty explosive then too as we saw in early 2018. The network effect here is insane and everything else people can do with Steem compared to the other coins, bitcoin being mainly a proof of storage for example and having a bigger scarcity than Steem, you can't really compare these either.
Saying "Steem will never recover" is the dumbest thing you could be saying in my opinion. Imagine how many thought the same of Amazon at the time and sold, I bet you there were a lot of them cause why else would the price have gone from $100+ back down to $7. Now imagine how many of those unknown sellers regretted it and how many Steem holders we had in the past may regret it too if something similar were to happen, hell even if Steem were to go back up to $1 for starters I'm sure many are going to come back and see what's up and why.
It just really grinds my gears when people say things like that, not just cause I'm myself super invested in Steem and have spent most of my time in the past few years doing whatever I can to help it get to the vision I have for it to become in the future - but I would feel the same way for other coins and there's people saying similar things about those too everywhere in their subreddits. I just don't get people like that, unfortunately we also have a lot here on Steem who are constantly negative and bring nothing of value to the table except complaining, pointing out flaws and shitting all over everything while still being here daily and doing that. It's hilarious really.
Again, I'm not saying we should all praise Steem and ignore constructive criticism, but saying things like "no chance of recovery", "this will never go anywhere" and similar things is just pretty ignorant.

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Yep! Exactly! And it will be such fun!
This is so cool. 👍
Thanks so much, @jaydih! 😊
I've not been active on reddit as Steem gives me more than enough to read and comment on, as well as paying me something.
It's easy to find fault with Steem, but it still seems like the best platform available for anyone to earn without fear of being shut down (although any front end can filter accounts).
Okay, so the Steem price is low, but I can make a dollar out two by posting about my running and I think that is a fair reward. I have been buying Steem recently to increase my vote, which only goes to others.
Somehow in the coming year we need to bring a new wave of users to Steem to at least keep it going. Communities may be part of that. I think it will be people joining and using it that drives the price up rather than the other way around. We need pioneers willing to take the chance. You can buy your way to dolphin pretty cheaply for now.
Steem on!
Still working on this bit of info, too... okay... so I THINK I understand and/or like your way of wording this?
So... Do I have this? Esentially, I would buy Steem... and convert it to SteemPower? In order to enhance my influence so that I can boost OTHERs? (Im totally okay with this, btw, I love community support - plus it always comes back around). Theoretically, I could just get enough SP so that I could make my own posts and collect, but if I pour INTO SP, it's so that I can support others?
Not totally sure what you are saying, but I'm not currently looking to take Steem out, so what I make is not that important. I do want the platform to succeed and that means encouraging people to keep using it. I'm not going to miss the small amounts I spend on Steem.
I think what we have here is something unique. It will require a lot of heat and pressure to turn Steem into a Diamond but we'll get there. I am very worried about that inflation rate putting tremendous pressure on the timing of this opperation but such is life: no risk, no reward.
I think that Steem has matured tremendously since it's beginning. I like to read your musings for example, the bring the right amount of nuances.
I added my two cents in the thread there as well. As far as arguing with the dump people on the thread, there really is no point. You can change the mind of an idiot.
I forget about the Reddit. Thanks for keeping that going, you and the others chipping in.
I don't think we are done yet and think this is a good time to be accumulating with what you can spare fiat-wise, and by trying to build up a reputation. There is plenty of STEEM in curation projects, and curation teams knocking around on most of the tribe tokens. If you are starting now and bring quality stuff, nudge (engage with) the right people, it must be one of the best times in a long time to get a foothold before things move again.
Many ways to look at it, actually if price goes up, new guys come in will earn more and faster in USD value, just as what happen early 2018, so gather fiat from other places may be even more ideal
Yes, thank you @acidyo for monitoring the reddit, even though there's no direct payoff. You're helping to pull us in, which benefits ALL of us.
@acidyo, When it comes to Cryptocurrencies first thought which comes in the mind of most of the people is Price. Steem is a Cryptocurrency and until they experience how diversified Steem Ecosystem is, the question will surround and will limit to Price aspect only when it comes to Outsiders.
But in my opinion Gradually this picture will change when Steem will move forward towards the path of more effective Point Of Adoption.
This journey is awesome and i am enjoying this unique Journey. Keep up the good work and stay blessed.
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+1 by me here, too. 👍
Thanks, for putting things in context. I choose to stay & post & promote as best I can (using #posh & otherwise).
If I had fiat to invest, I’d do that to... Anyway, have a good day, @acidyo ✌🏼
Fully agree that not many people understand the potential of Steem
99.98% down means his math is bad.
It is a very salient point to consider that investors will look at only a few coins during a bear market. They are more risk adverse and have less capital to spread. Once the turn is made though, that can change fast.
98.541%
Yep. Seems close but is actually significantly different in price. 99.98 would put the price at about 0.002 cents.
I don't know enough about it to comment with much validity, however, these days it seems everyone is looking for the silver bullet the quick-fix, easy option. Steem is obviously not that...Many will lose patience with a thing for lack of return, but will buy a lottery ticket each week looking for the big windfall. Takes all sorts I guess.
I agree that people would rather leave their good fortunes up to faith. Being different, wanting to shape my luck somehow, is exactly why I can see Steem claw it's way up Coin Market Cap. Voice is supposed to launch in Feb 2020. It is a social Dapp by EOS which will require ID authentification,it will be interesting to see what happens.
Knowledge is power as they say.
Yea, this is what is attracting me as well. I like the malleability and the community's active investment in shaping it into something amazing. I'm in.
Hmm that's interesting...A voice app? I didn't know that.
Well yeah it's called Voice but it proposes to be a blogging platform 150 million has already been put on the project.
Ah ok, well I guess time will reveal all.
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Reading that post made me laugh and realize the meme that most people in crypto will buy the top and sell the bottom is actually very true. It just blows my mind that anyone actually thinks like that.
I mean I realize if it all goes to 0 he will have the last laugh, but I would at least wait until the next bull market. If Steem keeps going down well they might have a point, but when Steem goes down as everything goes down who cares we're in a bear market and money is just moving around within crypto and no new money is coming in.
Once new money comes in everything will start going back up.
Another great point to bring up from that post is people still think you need provide a phone number to create an account.
Might be good in the future to spread the word on Twitter Reddit and wherever else that you can easily create a "free account" on Steem now, instantly, and for free.
I had to fish around to create a free account (honestly, I no longer remember how I did it to even explain it to someone else, nor do I recall if I used my phone number or not. I THINK I remember putting it in for something, but who knows what it was).
OH, it was to purchase a crypto voucher....
But yea, I dont actually remember what that means, haha.
Because they want to highlight the massive drop USD wise without considering the rapid development and progress that has been made the past few months.
Except from BTC and EOS - which was "born" while the bull run was in full effect - almost every single coin is down by 90%+
If by any chance this stagnant market last one more year, a couple of thousand of these coins will die...STEEM won't...
Does that mean that LTC is shit? or ETH? or ADA? Nah they are not...yet, despite being BIG players they have the same fate STEEM has...
Don't mind him...more for the believers.
What are you talking about, EOS is as down as any other alt.
steem needs marketing
and less self-voting
With all due respect @acidyo it seems IMO that your own answer could have used some perspective - you dove right into talking about vote buying and bid bots, when the original question had nothing to do with vote buying and bid bots. I understand that within the Steem bubble that bid bots and HF21 changes etc. are on top of mind, but that had absolutely nothing to do with the question! If I was a new user who asked that question, and I received your response, it would have confused me and prompted more questions.
BTW this user has successfully made it to Steem and has been having a good experience so far here, even posting a thank you post for her initial reception. She is super talented, and has posted a bunch of "wrecked" Christmas songs that are gorgeously sung, dark and twisted, and many of them still at no payout... maybe you could give her a visit? Steem username @dandann (I have verified on youtube as well)
Cheers
That would've been good, maybe I would have been able to find out her username with more replies.
The title and this post had nothing to do with OP and I do admit I went a bit off with my reply and didn't address all of her questions.
Aren't you the leader of one of the biggest curation projects?
didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, if I did :) We already featured one of her songs with c-cubed and voted another with c-squared.
Mostly I was just trying to point out that (at least in my eyes) your reply would be basically unintelligible to someone who wasn't already familiar with Steem. Bid bots? What is that? LOL I thought, given the whole title of your post was "Perspective", it would be good to point out how deeply wrapped up inside Steem so many of us are (certainly not just you!) and give a reminder that when talking to people from outside the ecosystem, it is good to keep that perspective in mind.
AH!! THIS CREATES SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS! What ARE these mysterious things of which you speak?!
More research is clearly needed.
Also, thank you 😅
And... I kind of have a thing with search engine worm holes. I may say that not understanding things frustrates me, but I also then spend 72hours ingesting everything I can find on the topics... But yea, not everyone's like that. Ha, I'm not even like that sometimes.
Also, I encountered a bidbot like 60 minutes before I saw his comment on it and was like, "Oh yay! Someone who can tell me if this bot is worthwhile!" Hehe. I'm a noob, but thanks to my occasional 72hr digfests, I'm a noob with a lot of dots (...you know... connect the dots, la la la? No? Uh... I have a lot of random information floating around in there, so even though a lot of this is HELLA confusing, a lot of it is also just... connecting previously laid studs into tracks. So yay for me?). I also said a lot ...a lot... in this paragraph, if you can call it a paragraph. IT'S late and I'm loopy leave me alone!
It WOULD be good to have a "Steem for Noobs" wiki that was actually written in layspeak though. I had like 8 'for newbies' tabs open, and several more tabs for cross references. Slowly figuring things out, but yea, every 'aha' generates 4 more questions, and I DO feel like I'm learning some things out of order, but that's okay. I learn best by use anyhow - like, I think I'm getting far more out of this, and am incentivized to keep digging, because I POSTED as SOON as I learned how to onboard.
Also, I... I can see that those posts are going freaking crazy. Wtf...
DanDann you're rambling....
Whoa! Haha!! I was about to be like, "Oh actually, @acidyo 's comment intrigued me" and then I read on. Hehe, @carlgnash you're rad. Thank you for being rad. And empathetic - I'm the kind of brain who enjoys a bit of a challenge, but yea, I get your point. I cant think of many of my friends would would have invested the amount of focus I have in the last few days to figure this out... but then, I kinda of get the vision of Steemit - it mirrors a world I've been itching to create. So yea, I suppose I have more of a vested interest.
K, rambling. TL;DR @carlgnash you're rad.
Okay, I made it in ^_^
Also, case-in-point of what I just wrote in the reddit about all my tabs going nuts at the same time? I JUST SAW THAT A CRAP TON OF PEOPLE UPVOTED A BUNCH OF MY POSTS IN THE FEW MINUTES I WAS ON REDDIT!!
So yea... we alive I guess. And as I said there, I'm glad (for peace of mind and easy thankfulness) that I only just now discovered Steem while the prices are low. I can see this being, not only a good investment for the future, but also really fun, and 100% in line with the types of communities I've always wanted to create and join.
Okay... on here it allows me to choose what % of an upvote I'm giving? I still haven't gotten to that part yet. Wtf? Do I only have a certain amount of votes I can give, or a certain amount per day? SHOULD I be choosy about my %s? Cause... it feels kinda 'backhanded compliment'y to give someone 50% of .001 😅
Link this to the Reddit thread :)