That was another post i think, from there i came here i guess, to counter the trend and my own worst instincts i try to think about it this way, i make t he best i can to stand up to those ideals, but i know i cant change or make everything better so i try with the circle near me, it is a worthless job a lot of times people are hard and slow to change, like you said we cant most times see past out own generation...