Bunnypuncher debate topic - Let's figure out: WEED (3 good entries will win 2 Steem each)

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I'm an older bunny and have been around the world a time or two. This has come up for me as I'm sure it has for others. Almost everyone will be faced with the choice: Marijuana should I try it or not.

Back when I was young I ended up trying it mostly due to peer pressure of friends smoking it. For a few years in high school and college I smoked it occasionally. It was never really a drug I cared for as it made me paranoid feeling (I know it shouldn't do that I'm weird I guess). But I had many friends that would smoke it every day.

When my oldest son was born I gave up smoking cigarettes and weed since I did not want that around my child. So for 21 years I haven't smoked much of anything (which is hard since I don't think you ever get over cravings for these things).

I'm not opposed to making marijuana legal as it already is in some states. I don't think I would use it much myself since quitting smoking. Lots of people are for making it legal. So what do people on Steem think about marijuana?

Debate:

Marijuana: explain why recreational marijuana should or should not be legal. Let's hear your thoughts on the issue.

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I will pick three (3) good entries and send them each 2 STEEM each. I don't know what I mean by good so I can't really explain it. Maybe something logical, heart felt, funny, or witty.

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Marihuana should have been delisted as a Category I drug a long time ago. Category I applies only to drugs with no known therapeutic uses and abuse potential. Marinol, that is, THC, was the first treatment for glaucoma. CBD and other cannabinoids show great medical potential. Finally, the ban on marihuana has stifled the creation of jute, or hemp, industry. This is a variety grown for its fiber, with low cannabinoid content.

Alcohol is a far more dangerous drug than marihuana. It is associated with violent crimes. THC makes people less violent. I'd rather live in a nation of potheads than alcoholics.

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reasons why the issue about marijuana is controversial:

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1-It has been falsely said that smoking marijuana does not affect health. According to studies published by the US Drug Abuse National Institute, among the effects of consuming marijuana are: distorted perception of reality; loss of memory and learning ability; lack of motor coordination; disorientation; inability to think clearly, to react and solve problems; loss of cognitive abilities, which may be permanent; anxiety attacks, paranoia, panic; phobias, hallucinations; increased heart rate and low pressure, which increases the risk of heart attack by four times; low immune system; respiratory problems; cough; pulmonary congestion and cancer, because it contains more carcinogenic substances than tobacco.

2-It would seriously affect the economy to dedicate to the cultivation of drugs - that is, something that will ruin the health and life of the population - land that could be dedicated to food and / or medicinal crops.

  1. Legalizing marijuana would not stop the violence; it would only serve to enrich a few landowners who are already rubbing their hands thinking about the profits they will get.

  2. More than ninety-nine percent of cocaine and heroin addicts owe this addiction to one day they gave in to the temptation to alienate themselves and allowed themselves to try marijuana. And once they crossed that threshold, they continued to experiment with increasingly stronger drugs. Marijuana is the gateway to more serious addictions.

  3. Many people who today do not dare to try marijuana because it is forbidden would do so if it were legal. Soon not only adults, but young people, adolescents and even children, would be consuming it, starting their sad path of addiction and destruction.

  4. If, although it is prohibited, tobacco cigarettes are sold to motorists, marijuana cigarettes will also be sold. Now we will not only have to take care of the drunkards they handle, also of the 'marihuanos'! And when the road accidents increase, will the authorities install 'marihuanímetros' next to the 'breathalyzers?'.

Again no clue. All the way through your post. And by the way you can't really become intoxicated with cannabis and become a liability on the road. It's not a central nervous system depressant. Do you want to kinda shoot your argument down?...

And last but not least? Stop the violence... Yes Oregon legalization has dropped the black market for Cannabis taking away profit potential for cartels and gangs.

Try education and some facts. A stoned driver is actually safer than a drunk.

Next up? Teens and minor usage has dropped in legal states...

Also opiate and alcohol abuse.

Oh inhumanity... Gateway drug? You are kidding me now how about milk and blaming a spoon for making you fat...

Oh and mixed up the order... I've been a medical marijuana patient with nearly 20 yard of legal medical marijuana activism and see a ton of opinion and government biased propaganda without a single fact. This is amazing. I hope this person has some free will.

The mind is a powerful thing to waste. This one bought the propaganda hook line and sinker.

Oh nice part about it being forbidden... Only by the state and the personal liberties you gave up.

I do live in a state where medical marihuana (their spelling. not mine) is legal; and recreational is on the November ballot.

That being noted:

  • I am a legal card carrying MMMP card holder and grower in my state.
  • I have an auto-immune disease which causes major episodes of vertigo, nausea and, more or less, mental discombobulation in my daily life

I grow and consume for medical reasons, not recreational use. Without the usage of marijuana, my life would be worthless. It helps me get through an episode of vertigo; which occurs 3-4 days per week. It helps ease me through the nausea. It helps me maintain a somewhat livable life. It helps me sleep off the vertigo and so many other symptoms that can make my daily life miserable. CBD oil is the same.

I feel an episode starting, I will take some CBD oil or hit my THC e-cig... and I am relaxing. The anxiety of knowing what will be happening during the oncoming episode is starting to drift away.

But as for the recreational reasons to make this legal:

  • Just imagine ALL the people that can be put to work... from growers to trimmers, botanists and farmers. From the truck drivers and harvesters to the sales' staff. Unemployment would take a huge drop. People of all levels of education could benefit from employment. Plus... let's not forget the state revenue that could be taken in. Excise tax on the sales could pay for rebuilding roads and other infrastructure... school systems could get some much needed revenue for supplies... sales tax could be lowered to make the cost of living more attainable for some.
  • Opioid addiction- My husband is one of the sad cases of doctors writing prescriptions for controlled, Schedule 1 opioids. For over 5 years he has been taking all sorts of controlled substances for chronic pain (even after having neck and back surgeries). The doctors think NOTHING of writing out a script for percocet, oxycontin or morphine when marijuana is a much better alternative. Marijuana doesn't infiltrate your body and add acetaminophen; ruining your kidneys or building up in your system and liver- which can cause organ failure.

I am 100% advocating for marijuana to be made legal- at both the state and federal levels.

Excellent comment you are for sure in the running for the top 3 :)

Thank you! Speaking the truth is what I'm all about; and advocating for medical marijauna, as well as the stigma implanted into the general public's minds due to government/Harry Anslinger's close-minded thinking are part of the main reason why any cannabis related laws are hindered.

Mad respect for you golden!

Thank you @jonyoudyer! Back at ya!

Source the nug. This is simple math. I say yes!
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It should be legal because it was put here by mother nature to use as a plant. No plant should be illegal. Notice how they can't patent a plant.
Alcohol and big pharma was not put here by MN. We as humans have over 1000 THC receptors in our bodies..... yes you, the person who's totally against weed......you have them too. What? This means that through out humans existence here on this mudball that we've used this plant over time to a point that our bodies developed these receptors(or maybe they've been with us from the beginning?). Hmmmmm, makes ya stop and think doesn't it? This plant has so many benefits that I'm not gonna even attempt to start listing them. Oh, there's also not one recorded death from overdose pertaining to this plant.... hmmmm. No one should have to have a license to use it or grow it if they so choose. That shit is all about lining someone else's pockets with fiat(Don't the medical and Insurance Companies do enough of this already?). Cooking with it IMO was way better than smoking although I did inhale...... so none Clintonesk(what a jackass!) Let's not forget it's prolific rooting system that would greatly benefit places like Cali with all their mudslide issues. If it were everywhere the green health of the planet would be booming and there would be a shitload less to deal with from the perspective of the lame ass war on drugs. In my opinion it should be thought of as basil. Let's face it if you go to anyone's bathroom med cabinet it's full of pills that'll kill you and "ARE" killing you slowly(brainwashed sheep/just change your diet) but this wonderful plant is illegal and extorted from the people. If for nothing else it should be free and clear for usage by those who choose to partake. By the way, I haven't been around it for at least a decade now but I believe what I wrote. It truly is a miracle plant and this is why its been demonized and kept from the people for so long. Freeing the weed doesn't make fiat.............

I SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT SAYS RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA SHOULD NOT BE MADE LEGAL

Why start a habit that would be difficult to let go to begin with?

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There is nothing so precious than having good health which can be guaranteed through healthy habits to a large extent. Recreational Marijuana is not good for our health and can cause serious damages to it in a long run. Consequences of smoking marijuana or recreational marijuana includes:

• It consistently destroys the lungs which could obstruct breathing.

• It hurts the mind which goes further to reduce our ability to assimilate in learning or retention of memory which can results in poor performance not just in school but at work and when performing other activities.

• For pregnant women, it could harm the baby so badly that it could lead to they loss of the baby or result to the baby delivered deformed or under weight which might result to intensive care of the infant.

Finally, it reduces our longevity and causes health complications which might lead to spending a fortune on one's health. So instead of going through this process of spending your resources, pains and unhealthy body; don't start at all. "Say No To Recreational Marijuana and Yes to Good Health And A Sound Mind." Thank You.

THANKS @bunnypuncher

I also want to use this medium to say I'm excited that you didn't stop your contests @bunnypuncher. Thanks for bringing this insightful topic today.

I got to really like doing contests and interacting with people. I surprised myself how much I did started liking contests and talking to Steemians. So I took the downvote stuff a little too personal and got on a rant. I try not to do stuff like that in my older age but sometimes I lose my temper and take stuff a bit too personal. And once I'm on a rant I could complain for days on a topic. Usually pink bunny talks be back to sense but this time she was offended too. So I dragged things on bit too long bitching about downvotes.

Need to listen to pink bunny more!!!! Blue bunny doesn't know everything like he thinks he does.

Infamous mrs b 🥇

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I lurk around keeping an eye on blue bunny :) Usually if he gets out of control I clip his ears back to size.

Sounds painful lol, I suppose those ears are like nails and just keep growing?

So you must be the real bunny puncher and blue buddy is the one your punching?

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Lol @mrsbunnypuncher, that's why you are there to guide him.

It's normal for every normal person to feel bad about downvotes especially when you have worked so hard to build a reputation @bunnypuncher. I'm glad you are not so bothered about the downvotes because situations like this could make one loose peace of mind. I'm also glad pick bunny spoke some sense into you lol. Everything will be fine in a long run, don't be discouraged by anything.

You are right everything will be fine in the long run. I'm not discouraged anymore and I don't know why I was in such a mood the other day. Maybe it was some bad carrots or something.

just take a puff of the contest thing...every thing will be all right.laughing-bunny-vector-1163835.jpg

why is it difficult? are you sure that marijuana makes you addicted? if yes, how are they became addicted? i know a friend using it sometimes for herbal medications and also it helps you relax, did you know that if you weed marijuana also can make you sleep even if you have an insomia, i can prove that because i can see my friend doing that, i also read an article but didn't show in media because their reputation might destroyed, but in that article stated that marijuana helped him to healed from cancer illness. well im not mad dude, hope you also don't, just sharing some ideas because @bunnypuncher stated there for a debate and i think it's fun. lol

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I dunno whenever I am around people that smoke (cigarettes or weed) I just feel tempted to smoke. When I was younger I always like smoking and gave it up for Mrs B and our baby not really that I wanted to. So despite so many years of not doing I feel the urge a little when I'm around people that are smoking. I fight the urge as I know I shouldn't start smoking after so long for health, costs, and Mrs B wrath. But still there is always that bit of temptation I must fight.

well if you think your family about this matter you shouldn't because even though it's a herbal, the smoke can still harm the people arround you and i think what you did is perfect as father though

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Edibles or oral oils defeat the lung health and carcinogenic arguments. Vaping also is much better for lung health but not as good the oral variants.

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I can't deny that after going to Las Vegas I do now like edibles :)

Aye well if the body stone is better for you then the heady high I would suggest trying a tincture, alcohol based mixtures. I had a weed beer last weekend, I don’t like beer so I thought it was gross, I was pleasantly surprised with how effective it was very quick acting unlike normal edibles you have to wait on!

You can get tinctures that are super potent and just one drop under the tongue will do you for the day. Don’t make plans to do anything when dabbling with a tincture the first time 😉

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Facts? I beg to differ... You have wild claims. And alot of misinformation.

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I had tried marijuana few times and here in India it is illegal, but i did it anyway, but i am not addicted to it at all. In my view addiction is related to psychology. You control mind and addiction can not happen to you.

So on the topic of taking marijuana, in my point of view, everyone should try it once because it brings a feeling of being out of world, which is needed in this busy world. But the matter is, this ingredient gives such a feeling that human mind can not come out of it and want to have that sense every time.

As we all know every action has equal and opposite reaction, the feeling that is produced inside the body by smoking marijuana is due to the consumption of stored energy inside us, so it is waste of energy, it makes us vulnerable, it keeps our mind occupied in it. And it makes us dependable on it.

But marijuana itself is a kind of medicine that makes our mind feel pleasure taking away the depression,but if we take it occasionally. As we all know it is a powerful natural ingredient and have equally powerful effect on our body.

At last i can only say that due to marijuana i felt that something else is there other than this objective world that we see, a different kind of awareness of energy, but it is not for people who are psychologically weak, who are addicted to these things easily.

I believe marijuana should be legalized for all. After analyzing other drugs readily available at even convenience stores in America the effects seems harmless. I know that everyone is different but the side affects on society seem harmless in comparison. Some people say if Marijuana was legalized they wouldn't need their mood enhancing drugs prescribed by medical doctors.
I think legalized Marijuana would also boost agricultural profits for American Farmers. No more Farm Aid cause Willie Nelson should be able to retire in peace. Thanks for the contest seems interesting I'll enjoy reading the other enteries.

Yea I think this will be a good one. Can't go wrong with a topic like weed LOL

Yea lots of opinions no clear answers. The grey areas of life reveil alot of ones mind.

Very wise words there.

The beautiful image of the page has been wonderful. In all, there was a great post.

nice one bunny puncher, i want marijuana be legalized since this is just a medicine but ofcourse there will be a limit, and also marijuana can't make you crazy, it helps you relax and stress free and i believe it's true because i knew someone who felt that way

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I used it to help me deal with the pain of passing a kidney stone. Honestly, I think that if I hadn't, the experience would have been so, so, SO much worse. As far as recreational use goes, it could totally be abused (as with anything), but any natural substance that helped me pass a razor blade covered BB through my urethra is alright in my book!

Ouch kidney stones are the worst pain a person can have so I'm told. Glad you got it out and good for you getting help and using it in a positive way.

If marijuana really is a cure it should have been legal since then, but why it's been illegal eversince? Not to offend others but I think to avoid addiction it should be banned.

Many would argue that you can smoke sometimes and not become addicted.

I think people should turn into other recreational activities rather than smokin' . Indulging into sports, arts, music,. Support group is very important, like family, friends, relatives in helping a person to totally quit smoking weeds.

The Cannabis community has the answer come join it here!

Back story before the discussion:
I will start by saying I smoke regularly including at this very moment. I can clearly remember my very first time, I don’t remember much this clearly. My friends peer pressured me into as always, said I needed to just chill out after I had wrecked my Jeep same day I bought it. I ended up zoning out on the camp fire for awhile only to have my friends come check on me because that was really strange behaviour from my normal back then. When they finally got my attention I immediately got angry but not because they had broken my attention but because as I said “why didn’t you make me do this sooner?” They all laughed which didn’t help, egged me on, but that’s besides the point. This was the first time I had ever felt “calm” that I can recall, until I started smoking I was chaos internally combined with frantic mentally. This was the summer between grade 10-11, I failed grad 10 but went back in 10 with vengeance completing 10 & 11 in one year. 12 was a breeze and I graduated on time with honours as the most improved student and highest marks in physics and electronics. I helped me at that point in my life.

When the shift takes place when you are no longer using the substance to aide your abilities (yes it makes you lazy but only when burnt out) but instead becoming dependent on it for day to day life things get complex.

So in short yes but with stipulations, such as screening and ready transition systems to move people into medicinal category. Many people including yourself would need to have a “pharmacist” walk you through how each strain and variation will affect you. Sativa responds differently then Indica and depending an how much an means of intake a difference in form may make the difference for comfort and enjoyment.

People will say recreational but that’s a wide array, using it before work is the same as being a drunk. There needs to be stipulations such as you start purchasing large amounts you need to talk to a professional and we need to have those “professionals” legitimized. I smoke only at night when it is time to power down, I have quit for weeks at a time only to find that real pharmaceuticals have extremely odd side effects and do not fill the void. Always I am left with that racing feeling and inability to focus which was the alarming conclusion I came to while staring at the campfire that one faithful night. I doubt I will ever purchase from a dispensary myself, I prefer to know the grower first hand or grow my own. Even though I only smoke at night the same as most people would have a beer after work I wouldn’t consider myself a recreational user though I could still gain ample supply through that gateway.

You see the problem is the definition of recreational, I personally think it needs to go full medicinal and completely decriminalized rather then just legalized. It’s a freaking herb ffs, salvia grows wild here in some areas hard to charge people for that herb. I would love to see someone even attempt to drive on salvia! Never been a charge of it because you are blackout with full blown hallucinations.

This will never happen because they cannot patent something that grows so abundantly, thus all the attempts to synthesize oils but they do not contain the same level of medicinal value unlike other drugs synthesized. Those drugs often being stronger then the original for medicinal effects and euphoria. All they have successfully amplified in the synthetic variants of weed is the euphoric effects lmao!

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Fantastic entry looks like winner number 1 is probably picked but never know. The contest rages on.

W00t W00t I did my grad 12 thesis on this subject so I could have dropped in all the backlog of data points but I felt a more personal touch would be better.

I called it the “lost herb in the war on drugs”, I now know first hand it does a world of good under correct use and each case is extremely subjectional just like antidepressants.

Good choice in topic, no you cannot go wrong with this one at all.

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I gotta try and do something cool after being a whining baby the last couple days. LOL

Even when a baby is scolded it is informed as to why otherwise it’s just bad parenting and the baby will not learn how to avoid the consequences.

Sorry to hear your battle is not over yet! I am watching and learning as this situation seems convoluted and tricky to get out of like quicksand.

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Marijuana is now legal in a majority of states. Marijuana has some well proven benefits, including relief for long term pain. But smoking marijuana can have some bad effects on our health, including making brething problems worse. If marijuana is consumed in food or beverage, these effects are somewhat delayed usually appearing hollucination 30 minutes to 1hr because the drug must first pass through the digestive system eating or drinking marijuana delivers sgnificantly less bloosdtream. Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the united state, its use is widespread among people more than million young adults ages.

What God have created, humans should not ban.

Its ok with me as long as it is for medicinal purposes there has been a rumour that weed can cure/delay cancer and weed is actually harmless because nobody goes around places high on weed they like to sit at home and think about stuff. I havent done any drugs or got drunk so i wouldnt know exactly what happens when high on weed or drugs and i tend to stay away from medicine most of the time too

Cannabis should absolutely be legal. I get the impression that some people are not aware of the history of its prohibition. There were not always laws against possessing, eating, or smoking cannabis. It was a commonly used medicine throughout most of the world and it never caused a problem.

The push to ban cannabis on a global scale kicks off in the United States result of institutional racism and corrupt government bureaucracy. Racist law enforcement wanted an excuse to harass Mexicans in the U.S. and outlawing cannabis gave them that opportunity because its use had come to be associated with immigrant laborers. Saying that "we were looking for marijuana" became a convenient reason to stop and search Mexicans just for being Mexicans. At the same time, the prohibition of alcohol was coming to an end and there were a lot of federal law enforcement jobs that were about to go away. Instead of looking for new jobs, they chose this drug that was already being banned in areas for racist reasons and lobbied for it to be made federally illegal.

Once that had happened, the United States government started asking other countries to ban cannabis too and even made economic threats against countries that did not ban the drug. In time, the vast majority of countries outlawed cannabis and now we have the system that we know today.

In a sense, people who support keeping cannabis illegal are unknowingly doing the dirty work of the corrupt government officials, imperialists, and racists of the past. Though, I do not blame people for having been lied to. It is not their fault that they are misinformed about this plant, so, in my mind, they are not at fault.

There is more though. Cannabis has countless benefits for users and very few consequences. People may say that smoking is bad for one's health but that is not the only way to consume the drug. It can be cooked and added to a healthy food. It can be made into extracts or tinctures. There is even weed breath spray that will get you high and leave your mouth smelling fresh. These products are not just for having fun either (but having fun is still a valid reason for use). There are numerous health benefits. It can help people who have seizures, cancer, AIDS, and many other medical conditions that are both serious and trivial.

Cannabis is safe too. There are no deaths that can be reasonably attributed to the use of cannabis. Studies have shown that its smoke is less harmful than tobacco. The impairment that it causes has less of an impact on motor skills than alcohol which means its users are not as prone to accidents.

I could go on but this comment is getting pretty long.

I think it is better to legalize marijuana. My first argument is that there are a lot of medical use to it. You talked about the paranoia. I had the same problem in the past. I heard from different sources that there are two main ingredients THC and CBD. THC makes you high and can also cause paranoia. But CBD can help against paranoia and other issues. So by legalizing it is easy to no how much CBD or THC is in it. There is also a possibility that maybe marijuana can help against cancer. Marijuana is also a good industrial product. You can make a lot of shit out of it. The plant has huge advantages for regional use. So there a lot of use for regional economy. But it is it hard to use it because there are a lot of laws against it in my region.

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Once I heard an example that really made me think, countries where Marijuana is legal there is a lower rate of crime and violence, when compared with countries where it is illegal. (Example: Netherland vs Brazil)
I know it might not have a direct correlation, but it definitely is interesting.

My opinion is that it should be legal for many reasons, but especially because the society already has rules to prevent the abuse... (like alcohol, don't drive if you drink).

I suppose there are some people who can change and stop intaking marijuana , ofcourse it is hard and a great challenge for them with the urges and all.
However talking about legalisation , I suppose I'm against it , or intaking it in any way . I have a brother that consumes it and I suppose this thing is killing him , not his health ugh true it really jeopardize ur health but his personality , it's like he goes crazy if he don't take a puff and the things he can do to take it.

The cigarette is legal. Alcohol is legal. Side effects are much according to one's usage of this. 100's of chemicals are in the cigarette. Never knows what we are drinking along with liquor it is contaminated with chemicals. All the two major things considered as harm is legal along with many other things which give some elevated mood or doze.
In the Northern part of India, one group of people publicly smoke the stuff, and they are spiritual people, seekers. In India marijuana is illegal and it brings heavy punishment, but these guys are using it like common people using the cigarette. If others keep that, it is illegal, seekers keep that, it is a part of meditation. I just tell this to show you the rules are flexible. I'am not criticizing anybody.

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You can see groups of these types of guys smoking the stuff here and there in many areas in Northern India. The govt with the strict legal opinion on the stuff is doing nothing in this activity.
In Ayurveda medical practice the marijuana has its main role in many healing practices, but it is purified and used. Marijuana is considered as a toxic plant in Ayurveda, and it is used after carefully purified.
The excess use of Marijuana has its side effects as other entertaining things.
Legalized, supervised, controlled use of this stuff in society will bring us more meditators, poets, scientists and more bunnypunchers.

Great entry. I’m not sure the world would want more bunnypunchers lol. But that is flattering so thank you for brightening my day a bit.

nope .... not flattering... because you know the taste of the material...still you know the lift. You can carry the experience of the elevated consciousness to some extent when you are not with that beast leaves. If you are a person of watchfulness rather than a party guy, you have the effect still in you...

Now I get you to that cannabis can get one peraniod and sometimes even on the verge of a panic attack! It’s not for everyone, but just know you where probably consuming some cannabis with high THC. There are different strains of cannabis with lower levels of THC that can actually trigger social behavior, like wanting to be around a group and meet different people!

but let’s talk some real talk

you want a good argument why it should be legal? Honestly give me a good reason why it should be illegal!!!

cannabis does not get one stupid. Cannabis can actually be profound and make one think outside the box.

and cannabis brings people together. A special bond of unity! It does not create chaos like other drugs, and alcohol. It creates a calm and inviting atmosphere . If only it was legal, and the lies would stop.

Actually paranoia is a primary result of certain molds and mildew from untested and improperly grown Cannabis...

And better start sending invitations out!

Cannabis community!

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