The competetion you organized is rigged. The project number 1 is sponsored by people who has high steempower therefore everybody is voting for it . This is kind of greed you can not evaluate the value of a work like this. If you really want to choose the real quality artwork you should have do it with a system which contributers don't earn money . I condemn you
I think Tim can vote whatever he want and I think sometimes is better to accept fhe defeat. Just my personal opinion
If the competition is rigged you can't just accept the defeat . It does not help anything to accept the 'defeat' when there is no fairness . However if you raise awareness against the rigged system you could get their attention and maybe they could change the system to a better and fair one. And we can see which artwork deserves the prize in a fair environment.
No one is defeated. There is still plenty of time for others to get votes, especially if they decide to use alternate accounts and incentived voting too. Don't forget that there is also two second prizes. This is not about sore losing as you and eltooni are attempting to portray. This is about the integrity of our platform, which trueflip were nice enough to use to host their competition.
Whether Tim can vote exactly how he wants is irrelevant. No one is asserting that he needs permission. But, the question on my mind, and I imagine any one else's who feels this to be unbecoming, is should someone who has been delegated 250,000 SP by a whale really be using all of that power to rig a competition, most likely for a cut of the "winnings?" I would think that someone with 250,000 SP, which has been gifted to him, might consider using that power to help people, rather than use it to essential steal a prize pot from others who have put in more effort and probably need the money more. I suppose who it is stolen off is irrelevant also, but the fact that this is what he chooses to use all of his voting power to do, is not in any way admirable. It is greedy and selfish, and not how you treat fellow human-beings.
I don't know what you got for jumping to his defense, but I hope it was worth your self-respect.
dude...i couldnt have said it any better, this was exactly what ive been thinking. hah. good job son of satire. your my hero. lol.
man , you are a trippy guy ! agree to your ideals ! nice update on your contest entry by the way, this voting is fucked up lol , as a minnow you cannot do that without kissing a whale's ass . Seems like its monarchy and patriarchy of whales on steemit , where people are being downvoted by whales to render their blogs useless, another contest i had entered here totally ignored my entry , and here its like a totally rigged voting . Have you seen the amounts of financial & power disparity that cryptocurrency can create ?? no. 1 is a nice entry , ok sure , but WTF ??? so the voting winners get 15 BTC i.e. basically the person who is best at twisted-hustling !!! and the team vote and another entry will get 7.5 BTC !! Its also a pattern , how the ACTUAL artists will always be kept underpaid and under-classed , than the hustlers and the business class who actually only have ass-kissing skills disguised as communication skill. Implying that if you know how to sugar coat things or curb /filter your real inner thoughts , and speak/type/comment only in a specific " NICE " way , imposing through encouragement, a sever attitude check on the subjects of your royal whales !!! Believe me i have NO issues with authority, as long as the authority figures can do their JOB and be FAIR !!!!
ALL THAT SAID , i DO not think that that @eltooni did anything unjust or unfair or out of the rules to be honest !!! the whale must genuinely think that it IS INFACT the best artwork !!!!! that seems to be the logic behind it all !!! All that you are suggesting here is that this whale who is doing that , has shitty choice in artwork , lol !!!
I guess by commenting this way , i may have caught the eye of some whale who may now flag my post or hide it or downvote my already broke-ass blog , lol !!! In my first 3 weeks of joining, NO way so far has my experience on steemit been "FAIR" ... AT ALL !!! It almost feels stupid to do the right things !! but also , sooner or later you must realize that this is also the name of the game in real life outside of steemit too !!!
Thanks for this comment. I was told by a lot of people not to say anything, because to do so would no doubt ruin any chances of me taking a runners up prize.
The thing is though, I knew that once I read these distasteful comments that I simply couldn't abide by it. Some things are more important than money. In fact, most things are more important than money, and I'm just as disappointed in all the people who voted for a shitty, lazy entry in order to gain a couple of dollars, as I am with the conspirators themselves.
But yeah, man. I have been called an idiot about 20 times today by all my family, as they really think I should have remained quiet. So, I am very happy to read that at least one person thinks it was the correct decision.
definitely man. Most things are more important than money. Such as playing fair in a competition/contest, sticking up for whats right, helping others/sticking up for others etc. Appreciate you saying something. Honestly I doubt that saying something about this will ruin your chances at getting a runners up prize.. Atleast I am hoping that TrueFlip will notice that this isn't fair and maybe even change the voting method. Since it is pretty obvious what is going on. lol. There are a lot of good entries, its very unlikely that 75%+ of voters would all vote for one entry unless they were getting something out of it, with all the other good entries they could vote for.
Good job licking his butt and flagging others.
You are so true
Just because someone has much Steem power he is not allowed to vote? Everybody can express what he likes. Nothing is rigged. Everybody is free to vote what they want. Sounds like a bad try to make it look rigged.
It's not about the amount of $ but how many people like the artwork.
And if you didn't notice it's about marketing to introduce True Flip in the Steemit community and I've been delivering that quite well so if you want to do the same be my guest but don't mistake it for rigged. No body was excepted from this contest if you have seen the original article. And the upvote it self has no value as much as the feeling to be accepted and supported by the steemian friends I made in the Steemit community :).
liking everyone who votes number one is rigged. and seems like you guys agreed to split the prize if he did so.
It's steemit anyone can upvote as much as he wants. Nothing is rigged if you can do the same no one is holding you from that. And no we did not split te prize I am sorry you think that. Have a good day I am not gonna talk further about this.
Some of us are unwilling to betray our morals for monetary gain, so that is not an option for us.
I don't wanna go more into this.
As you have edited your comment to give the appearance that you did not continue the conversation , I will also edit mine as they no longer have context.
This is a great way to cover your tracks to onlookers on the post, but I hope you are aware that a history of the original conversation will be stored permanently on the block chain.
I am sorry, because I don't like to offend people that's why.
Keep kissing your hater buddy's butt. I saw you in his hate post. You are not fooling anybody.
Absolutely I agree
From reading all most all comments, I also wanted to speak a few lines. Friends please, you look the art work of no 1 and 22,In my opinion the both works express the same message. The art work 1if wanted to reach the moon, then you look the art of 22,it wanted to explain the feelings of love and sharing and support to the young ones. It expresses the valuable information about steemit community which one is togetherness,so I do not see the vast difference between the two works. So my question is why all you feel about 1 and not 22.If 1 is sponsored by powerful voters, then is it a competition?. If this is reality, then in my opinion 22is the winner, as he alone can stand 2nd possiton. So I wanted to suggest trueflip to judge the result honestly and fairly.
I also see nothing very special about artwork nr 1. This is a competition for a loto ico. Organised voting of artwork nr 1 doesnt give a good image about trueflip and personally makes me question the fairness of the future loto drawings.
that's true. everyone saw that clearly enough :(
I have participated in contests before, and was able to get 150 votes simply connecting with people and promoting that contest. Contests are great opportunity to connect with people and rally them, sp doesn't matter.
agreed. everyone sees that whoever votes for 1 is getting paid atleast $4 so they r voting for 1 also.
It's worse than that.
Just straight up buying votes, so the comment about it not being about the upvotes and about the support is a little funny. The support is obviously not legit if it is paid for. There's multiple alt accounts voting too. @trueflip didn't specify that this is off limits though, so probs get away with it as well. But, it's them who have to live with it. I just worry that it is going to give Steemit a bad name, because this competition got some exposure on coindesk and the likes. A follow up article about how the 30K winner essentially paid for their votes is going to make us look like a bunch of scammers.
I am sorry to hear that. First of all I didn't ask for this, if you go at this article of mine, you'll see the support that the steemians gave to me.
They are doing it again.
Second I don't know whats wrong with you but a contest is like an electoral campaign everybody tries to win.
3rd no one said this is not allowed and I've never heard about that lol.
Have a great day, and best of luck :)
Perhaps you view a competition as an electoral campaign, but I view it as a competition. When you make a post requesting that people vote for your entry, and then inform those potential voters that your friend will be voting on each comment for your entry, and then you elaborate by stating just how generous that friend's upvote is. Then, when you share a screenshot labeled "proof" which shows that every vote for your entry is being upvoted for a few dollars, enticing those reading your post to go and vote for you, this insults the integrity of that competition, and of Steemit.
@trueflip did us a solid by running this competition on Steemit, and it earned us some decent promotion. We repay them by tainting their bounty funds through unsporting, and to be frank, immoral voting. You have made me ashamed.
Look man as you have seen my post my so "copy/pasted" artwork was first even without Tim's help. I am so sorry but you are. I've been first and will try to be. If you don't like it it's a matter of perception, but certainly people do :)
I apologise, you are correct. My thoughts on your post are entirely subjective, and the effort you did or did not put into it is completely irrelevant. However, it is not a matter of opinion that you have bought your votes, so I am not entirely sure what you are talking about when you say that people like it because of their perception. They like it because you told them they will get money for voting on it.
Forgive me if I don't respond, I did not want to end up having a discussion about this. You haven't broken any rules technically, so why don't you just win quietly so we can get this swept under the rug. Just stop trying to defend yourself with bullshit about community love and support. That's not what happened here and do not insult us all by spouting that shit and expecting us to eat it.
Enjoy your day.
Do you know what else is pretty funny? he also had to vote for himself, (which isnt wrong just kinda..funny..given the situation..hahaha) but if i had as many votes as him id definitely vote for someone elses entry. Though, I still voted for someone else' entry even though my entry only has what...1 vote? (thanks for that btw lol) and I still prefer to help out another person in the contest by voting for their entry cause I think its better than mine and clearly took more time and effort to make than my own entry ( I assume lol) plus it makes me feel good to help others out rather than myself. Guess everyone is different though, i prefer helping others out by voting for a different entry other than my own, he prefers voting for himself even though he already has unfairly acquired 75% + of the votes( maybe even more, havent really counted them). LOL sorry, find that kinda ..funny.. to be honest, cause its so ridiculously greedy.. I know theres nothing wrong with being greedy during a contest beings that the whole point of the contest for the contestants is to win.. butttttt.....seems a bit..too greedy? to vote for yourself AND cheat. hahaha. than again..i guess "cheater" is just another way to say "greedy f*ck" , pretty much the same thing.
Anyways, ill stop calling him out on his extremely unfair..and unsportsmanlike behavior.. OH! That is the word I have been looking for to describe this situation. SCORE! 1 point- me, 3.5 trillion points- Altooni.
Sorry, went a lil off topic there when i realized the perfect word for this situation, I will stop pointing out the unfairness of how Altooni chooses to play this "game" (this isnt a game man, its a contest, theres a lil difference between the two, in a game you can pull your resources together to bribe the other players to lose and let you win, in a contest, this is not allowed....wait...someone has just informed me that this method of playing is not allowed in most games neither, so..scratch that. ) haha. I will just trust that TrueFlip will catch on and do the right thing in this situation. And if they DON'T...Than who knows, maybe they are in on this scheme too. [JUST KIDDING TRUEFLIP, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT A LEPRECHAUN KILLING DOLPHIN WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING AS FCKED UP AS BEING IN ON THIS SCHEME...<3 YOU :) ]
ANYWAYS, okay im done now. all i had to say. <3 you all. Peace & <3 & Fair play & selflessness to all.
SHT one more thing. I am not saying all this stuff and I am not on the side that I am on in this situation because I feel like I will gain from any of this, no no.. I pretty much just created my entries for laughs, wanted to add both shock and laughter to a few peoples lives who have a fcked up sense of humor like myself, am not expecting to win anything from my entries, would be NICE to win, not going to lie, but when I decided to make my entries I wasn't thinking " OH FCK YA, THERE IS NOOOO WAYYYY I AM GOING TO LOSE THIS THING, HAHA! POOR SUCKERS WHO ARE WASTING THEIR TIME TRYING TO COMPETE AGAINST THESE GOLDEN ENTRIES!! THEY HAVE ZEROOOO CHANCE MUAHAHA!!! suckers..." haha, no, I was just having fun with it and when I first read about this contest my entries were literally the first ideas to pop into my head, and I laughed thinking about them so i figured id just make em in the hopes of making atleast one other person out there laugh at them as well. My mission was a success, i made one guy sh*t his pants and have just received a court notice cause he is suing me for a pair of new tidy whities, which honestly i am going to fight this claim in court cause it sounds like a diaper would suit this individual much better than tighty whities, which I am going to tell the court that they should make him wear diapers 24/7 since it sounds like he poops himself a bit too easily and I would NOT want to be the person doing his laundry everyday, nor would I want to be behind him in a grocery store, on a roller coaster, or in any other scenario if he was not wearing a diaper. Just think about that for a few minutes. Realize the harm and damage that could result in him being so irresponsible that he doesn't wear adult diapers with his apparent bowel problems.. just...just sit and think about it for a few hours. Not very pleasant is it?
WOW I get sooooooooo off topic its ridiculous. where was i... oh ya, my mission was indeed a success, I got ATLEAST two WHOLE people ( zero midgets i assume, but don't take my word for that, one of them could have been a wee man sized creature, I mean..person..okay theres about a 49.5% chance one of them is a midget, sorry off topic again, damn maybe i should take my ADHD meds which i forgot to take today..nah.. no one will finish reading this whole comment anyways, might as well keep going..HOPEFULLY someone does read all of this so I waste about 2 hours of their day though, that'd be pretty rad. If your reading this than your that someone, and your welcome. distracted you with my 2 hour long comment which you for some reason decided to keep reading, you either need to find some new hobbies or possibly (preferably) a girlfriend. or both. Or neither, can just keep reading this ridiculous comment to kill time. Thats fine also. just remember, if you finish reading this whole comment you owe me a $500000 upvote on my entry so that I can start bribing people to vote for my entry so I can possibly win. Seems to be the only chance I got at winning. Thanks for your contribution. <3 you.
I hope that whoever reads this didn't find it funny cause it will make me laugh knowing you read this even though it didnt make you laugh and you didnt gain any valuable knowledge by reading it. besides the knowledge about the guy who is bribing his way to the top. that knowledge is pretty valuable. anyways Eltooni, hope you read this, cause I will now reveal to you the whole point of this long ass comment right..about...now....
The point of this comment was to distract you from bribing people, so that I could start bribing people in your place and surpass you and claim the title as REIGNING TOP BRIBER WHO THINKS THAT BRIBERY IS 100% FAIR IN CONTESTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHERE BRIBERY CAN BE USED BUT SHOULDN'T BE.
YAY!!!! haha! sucker! good luck catching up now! muahahahaha!!!
(sorry for all who had to read this comment, besides eltooni, glad that eltooni sat there reading this and wasted his valuable bribery time)
<3 you :)
-kayaman
(P.S.S.S- Eltooni, please upvote if you read this so I know my plan worked. Thank you. AND <3 you :)
This will be my last reply to you, if you say it's shit, again your perception, try to win as you wish it's none of my business I don't care. Regarding the True Flip morality don't worry we are on the safe side. When coingraph wrote that article my artwork was one of them there, so they liked it as do others. I have nothing against you and everyone wants to win, I am working hard making True Flip a great marketing to vote my artwork you can do the same.
This was my way so if you are more creative you will have my vote but at least don't make a fuss out of it.
Here is the article and if you go to the original post, they asked me tons of questions in regard to it.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/true-flip-blockchain-lottery-invites-creators-to-steemit-challenge
OH your right, you said unsporting before i said unsportsmanlike. you win. lol.
This seems like a lot of trolling, given that you lack any information to suggest that this is anything but honest. Maybe it's not the best use of votes, but I have found @timsaid to be very honest and caring in the past. He is trying his best to distribute money to others and help create excitement for this contest.
I agree with you that @timsaid did a lot for the Steemit community and I also would not call it 'cheating' what happened here, but in a really fair competition people should vote for what they like and don't vote because they expect to get paid. I really wonder why so many people let manipulate (this word may be too strong) themselves for just 4 dollar? Corruptible so easily?!
The result looks like a former GDR (German Democratic Republic) election. :)
I genuinely hope that you are just misinformed and not actually advocating this type of behaviour. If eltooni genuinely thought that this was fair, then why has he edited his comments on this post to hide what he said. Why has he gone to his earlier post where he offered to buy votes, and edited the text to no longer include the part about buying votes?
There is nothing honest about this, @donkeypong, and I hope that you can see that now.
This is the comment where he offers to have his honest friend pay for votes.
Here is proof that he has since edited the post 8 times, removing any evidence from the post and removing the "proof" image he shared which demonstrated how everyone who voted for him was receiving upvotes.
Do you believe that is an acceptable manner by which to attempt to win a competition? Truly?
Oh come on guys, give this man a break. There are three prizes and only the first one has to do with the number of votes. So it is normal that everyone will try to achieve that prize, I see people spamming around chat, people getting together and split the prize, eltooni voting for the ones that vote him, it is a contest what do you think, they are asking for the voting winner. If you want fairness than try Britain's got talent.
If I would be in your place, I'd start contacting friends and make some votes not complain here and swear and offend. I don't like how much you guys bastardized this. Look at the guy with number 22 he is giving his best and I truly respect him for that, because he is quite near, so please stop.
And if you care for the little people there are two quite amazing prizes for us too. I myself am not trying to be the voting winner coz I don't have friends here, but I truly hope that I will get the 2nd or 3rd prize. So please guys stop this is getting ridiculous.
Btw I vote for number 22, I respect his efforts.
If you do not think that fairness should be a standard in any and all competitions, then I can see no point in us conversing.
I'm heading to bed now anyway. Enjoy the rest of your night.