Bitcoin Bounces Hard But Cryptocarnage Remains

in #bitcoin7 years ago

Content adapted from this Zerohedge.com article : Source


by Tyler Durden

Update 0815ET: Just as we saw at yesterday's US stock market close, dip-buyers just stepped in to Bitcoin in a significant way, lifting the crypto currency over $1000 off the lows and back above $8000...

But the carnage remains... for now...

Notably, another exchange - BitMEX is down...


It seemed like just yesterday that every cryptocurrency bloodbath would be promptly bought, often sending the price of bitcoin and its peers to new record highs. Those days appear to be over, at least for now.

So far this year, cryptocurrencies have been beset with bad news: Bitfinex, by some accounts the world's largest exchange, was recently subpoenaed by the CFTC, along with Tether, a separate corporate entity that involves many of the same people from Bitfinex, as questions mount about the authenticity of its tether token. Tethers, which are widely used by crypto traders to quickly move in and out of different crypto pairs, are supposed to be backed by dollars, with one tether = one dollar. But Tether's decision to fire its auditor appears to validate the concerns of the exchange's critics.

Raising fears about another massive, Mt. Gox-like hack, Coincheck, a mid-sized Japanese exchange, reported this month that it suffered "the biggest crypto theft in its history" when hackers made off with $400 million worth of NEM tokens. On Friday, Bloomberg reported that Japan's Financial Services Agency raided Coincheck's offices a week after the hack, hauling out documents and computers as evidence.

The inspection was conducted to ensure security for users, Finance Minister Taro Aso said. On Friday morning, 10 FSA officials entered Coincheck's premises to gain a better understanding of how the exchange is operating in light of the regulator's business improvement order imposed earlier this week, an agency official told reporters in Tokyo. The exchange has until Feb. 13 to produce a report detailing the causes of the incident.

And as if the threat of cybertheft wasn't enough to scare off the marginal buyer, the threat of regulators trying to ban crypto - much like China did - has become a major concern. Regulators in India said explicitly declared yesterday that bitcoin is not legal tender and said it would take "all measures to eliminate their use," foreshadowing a coming crackdown in a market that many hoped would one day grow to one of bitcoin's largest. After a weekslong will-they-won't-they back and forth, South Korea's Ministry of Justice announced revealed that it had abandoned a proposal to ban crypto outright, but instead seek to regulate it, requiring exchanges to obtain details about customer identities.

After bitcoin's worst month in years, it dipped below $8,000 Friday morning in the US to levels it hasn't seen since November while Ethereum, Ripple and Litecoin all took double-digit beatings.

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Meanwhile, as Bloomberg points out, bitcoin's rough month was even worse in South Korea. As of Friday morning ET, bitcoin has dropped more than 60% from its January high in Korea as South Korea struggles with how to prevent money laundering and tax evasion without throttling the ecosystem.

The selloff has many Korea traders fearing the worst.

"The bubble in cryptocurrencies has burst" in Korea, said Yeol-mae Kim, an analyst at Eugene Investment & Securities Co. in Seoul. Because of the intense demand from retail buyers, bitcoin trades at what's called "the kimchi premium" on SK exchanges. In January, the premium stretched to its widest level on record when bitcoin traded at $22,525 in Korea, $7,500 higher than the composite price at the time.


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Great post @zer0hedge.

Regulators cannot ban cryptocurrency. It's like putting a 1 panel fence in the middle of the street: people will simply find a way around this fence just like they will find a way around this "ban". This leads me to question the loyalty of these governments. Do they operate in their own interest, or do they operate in the interest of the people?

Let's look at the news. We've seen issues in South Korea, Japan, India, USA, and other countries. The media has been spreading misinformation for weeks on end. Don't believe me? Look at CNBC. They're literally promoting garbage. They bring on people who have absolutely no idea about cryptocurrency. Because of this, it's contributing to the growing amount of people in this space who think they know something but don't know anything. In order to fully understand this space, you need a tech background and a Finance background.

The Finance background helps you speculate on valuation and economics/tokenomics. The technology helps you understand the why and how.

When the internet was in its infancy, people had similar arguments about it[the internet] when compared to bitcoin and some cryptocurrencies.

  1. Scalability
  2. Speed
  3. Not easy to use
  4. Energy
  5. Why would anyone use this?

  1. This was solved by better routing, ipv4, ipv6, technology becoming cheaper, etc.
  2. This was solved by DSL, satellite, broadband, LTC, 4G, etc.
  3. DNS and similar protocols were implemented which made the internet easy to use.
  4. Efficient technology arguably reduced the energy burden to a degree.
  5. As the technology matured and improved this opened up an entirely new class of business use cases which demonetized numerous industries and revolutionized others.

We're going to be fine.

Regulators cannot ban cryptocurrency.

I agree with this completely. This is something that I laugh at each time I hear it. How can they? Sure they can try to do it in their country, and in the more tyrannical nations, it might work. But in most other countries, unless all decide to do it, people will have access to them as long as they have access to the internet.

With decentralized exchanges starting to come online, it is going to make it impossible to be able to stop.

I took this opportunity to add a few more to my Bitshares account.

We are most likely getting near a bottom. Weaker hands have been flushed out. There might be another moves down, but I dont think it will be too far (at least I hope not).

Cryptocurrencies are very volatile and I think most are just getting use to that. Most people are accustomed to the stock market where 30% moves in a 24 hour period means something is seriously wrong. In the crypto world, this is normal.

We can also see 20% moves upward in a heartbeat too.

That is the market we are in. With so few traders and such a small market cap, things are going to move in big ways. Find good projects and buy the dips. It really is that simple.

Adding to quality positions will only enhance your returns when the markets turn around.

Look at some of the blockchains and what is going on during this recent collapse...

BTC is starting to implement lightning.
LTC and FB might be nearing a deal.
ETH is solving some of its traffic problems.
STEEM keeps steemin.

Those are just a few off the top of my head...yet the prices are being driven down.

Purely FUD.

Thanks for sharing your views @zer0hedge. I think there are a multitude of reasons as to why this is happening:

  1. India's recent announcements

  2. Metcalfe's law reaching an initial critical mass

  3. Regulations being imposed

  4. Large investors making moves on the market

Of course, there are a multitude of other factors that one must take in to account, such as the recent hacks, pumps and scams, but they key takeaway is that people are still interested and that means the market should keep growing.

Mostly moves in markets happen like this because there are more sellers than buyers.

Isnt that the true simplicity of it all?

Yes, but one needs to look at why there are more sellers, which is where fundamentals come in.

Fundamentals rarely have anything to do with markets.

Fundamentals do not price Tesla at $350 or bitcoin at $20K.

The market and what is going on with a company, industry, or blockchain rarely match. That is why some things are over priced, under priced, or even bubbled.

Over time, things should adjust...but sometimes they do not.

Sentiment drives market...it is a glorified casino....fear and greed are the motivators.

That is why the technicals and algorithmic trading can be success...because the behavior sprung from sentiment is often predictable.

I disagree there, because T.A. is based off of market psychology, which is based off of pack mentality and fundamentals - bitcoin hits prices due to supply and demand, which occurs because people want something, which is again based off of fundamentals.

I just hope that this crash will kill the shitcoins .

We already saw bitconnect and davor coin get the hammer and allow the coins that actually have utility to grow like vechain , Icx , Eos , Steem , SBD. Because right now, there are tons of shitcoins around.One thing I noticed was that among the alts, the mined coins were holding their value better than the premined/nomine tokens. Imo crash will actually be healthier for crypto in the medium to longer term. The pumps and dumps are spoken of quite openly by people trading. Shit, I see where people are actually using P&D as their investment strategy.

I'm thinking BTC again sells off to $6k and LTC to $80 while futures expire mid February.

This is a chance for me to have a lot of traders who have recently joined me in trading my Tnnip knowledge
Thank you for sharing your amazing ideas

The support seems to be in place to keep prices above $ 7500 barrier, although commentators point to a near-$ 7,000 decline before a reversal occurs.
Bittcoin's losses have also triggered secondary implications for alternative currencies across the top 100 as followed by "https://coinmarketcap.com", where the vast majority has lost at least 50 percent in the past 24 hours more than bitcoin itself.
Overall, digital currency markets have retreated more than $ 100 billion from their combined market value since yesterday, February 1.
While markets appeared not to be interested in South Korea's "know-your-customer" legislation, which will enter into force this week, comments on Indian Finance Minister's legislation in a budget speech on February 1 were causing the losses to accelerate.
Although local stock exchanges reported that the words of Finance Minister Aaron Gaitley did not include any new information on how legislators would deal with this area, both journalists and mainstream media announced a "ban" on bitcoin in India after the speech.
This has had a significant impact on circulation, although there has been repeated assertion that there is no explicit prohibition planning in the area.

This is why people who are not experts, or who don’t religiously do their homework, should not really trade stocks. People complain about paying brokers’ fees, but they are paying them to do the work of keeping up with all this stuff with an educated eye.

@zer0hedge... it wasn't a fraud back then. The pump from $100 to $1000 was fraudulent (fake money on the Mt. Gox exchange). The pump from $200 to $2000 was legitimate. The pump that happened after that was not, being caused by massive cross-exchange fraud facilitated by Tether. I would not be surprised to see it fall to $2000, and then never recover because BTC has been hijacked and has no fundamental use case any more, with some other, better crypto taking its place and legitimately pumping over the course of years based on real adoption.Tether being fraudulent isn't any different from any other alt-coin being fraudulent and doesn't reflect on the integrity of the bitcoin ledger.Curious how you no longer harp on about Bitcoin transaction fees now that they are on their way down and lightning network is being implemented.Bitcoin will always be the first and most pure cryptocurrency because it was released before people knew it had any value. No other coin can ever claim that for the duration of eternity. You can't change history..thank you for sharing with us..

Just like the highs at 30, 100, 1000, 10000, 20000.

Every time, big retrace.

All the FUDsters come out and chatter about the "end of Bitcoin" and how its going down to another new low, or zero. Then, it fails to materialize, and all of the idiots look at each other and wonder why it happened. Many commenters may have their moments of lucidity, but this isn't one of them.

Please, do go on.

See you at the next all-time high.

Can you summarize the post. I didn't read anything

This is may a lot of FUD happening about Cryptocurrency I guess . Thanks for sharing your views @zer0hedge.

I think the rock bottom sbd price is related to the Korea situation

Bitcoin is one of the biggest opportunities since the invention of the internet itseif....great times to be around.BTC is a great way.The earliest way to get rich and not just make money with crypyo is to buy BTC and hold for year or two.

These days will be over soon. Prepare for new highs in crypto world.

Irina V.

well i think ... btc is preparing it self for jump

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Bitcoin and other crypto units will save even more value. This process takes 2-3 more days. A high jump will occur after this period. As you say, this drop reminds us of Mt. Because something like this happened very soon. I know that the current situation of exchanges is not the same as Mt.Gox. You will see. Within one week the markets will be back to their former status. We have to turn this into our solder. Crypto money is losing blood to a great extent. Let's take a leash (investment) on top of the scarf. The wound will close. We will also become more resistant to Darbles. In short, we can win by investing in such low prices. It depends on the risk that you will get at us. Personally I will buy Bitcoin when I see $ 7000. Thanks sharing @zer0hedge

It was hard for anyone to read at the beginning of the year that bitcoin would fall to this low. Indeed as mentioned in this post, tether and bitfinex have played a huge role in bitcoin's falling. Tether plays a big role in the operation cryptocurrency exchanges including bitfinex. And with claims that it does not have the currency reserves to back it up, bitcoin has been left to drop massively, affecting other cryptocurrencies.
Let's hope SouthKorea's announcement not to ban cryptocurrency will influence the stabilisation of bitcoin inspite of India's goverment doing all it can to ban it. Something which is surprising, as India's economy is not a stable one, And they would take advantage of using bitcoin to get most of their people out of poverty.
But I still believe inspite of all of this, bitcoin will rise again as it has always done in the past after controversial decisions made in the economy.

I don't know @zer0hedge, I think that maybe is purely FUD, because comon' BTC are implementing lightning, the traffic is over, and LTC are going to be in Facebook. The prices don't interfere in the fundamentalist analysis. For me this dump is purely FUD!

Bitcoin still bouncing up and down like the old day. Good to see the rollercoaster still running!

None of the mayor banks seem to be able to pay their customers. India banning cash altogether, China with debt bubble.

I expect more swings in the future, up and down. Great opportunity for traders, now is the time to buy low.

Greate article @zer0hedge! Regulators have been claiming to ban bitcoin for years. I think this was a strategy to buy bitcoins and others cheap, simply by spreading a lot of fud. After that the price raised to a new high, making the new investors even more money.

Regulators trying to ban cryptos shows how few freedom is left in those countries. It's absurd to think they're against people having their own property (India even banned cash).

A lot of cryptos seem to be going up along with bitcoin: monero, steem dollars and even dogecoins. It's interesting how the crypto prices are somewhat following the bitcoin changes.

Even trading in the 7k range (or 6k or 5k) ... with mining costs still over 2k average, there is still a LOT to be made by the miners.

While the press seems more than willing to publish exaggerated stories of this country or that country banning Bitcoins, the fact remains that there is no way to actually ban them other than regulating 3rd party exchanges.

Just shutting down the exchanges is enough to drive cryptos into a microscopic darkweb niche. You can't completely "ban" them any more than you can completely ban pot, but gov'ts can easily shrink them into irrelevance anytime they want.

This was always the huge weakness in the "cryptos will overthrow fiat and bring indebted govt's to their knees" argument.

I dont know if the bubble has burst, but this "buy the dip" was crazy ! It was on such a high volume that one might confuse it with actual reversal. Well its not, we are still far from over in my opinion.

The Bitfinex and Tether subpoena is interesting at it actually happened on Dec 6th last year but Bloomberg pushed the story recently and made it sound like just happened then corrected themselves later. The damage was done though and the world and its dog picked that up and run with it.