I think that second guy was the one who said, I publicly challenge anyone, BTC will NOT drop below 8500 ever again... Plus.. if these guys were so good, they wouldn't have to advertise on a great TA's posts.
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@philakonecrypto is a genuine Elliotician and teacher. Different approach and goal to @haejin. In all honesty, both present excellent content and should be thanked for their contributions.
I've been learning from both. I particularly like it when their short-term primary outlooks differ because they explain their logic behind it. Their lessons, combined with personal analysis and decision making, allow me to learn while I trade the positions I choose to.