What happened to free market principles? I thought if you have something valuable to say people ought to reward such speech.
I guess the flaggers are exercising their right to dissent. It doesn't seem like the typical "vote with your dollars" approach. It's more like rob a little to compensate for other people's generosity.
Flagging and upvoting are actually both using free market principles. You are not paying someone with your upvote and you are not robbing people with your downvote you are helping to decide how much of the reward pool they get. When you upvote, you say that they should get more, when you downvote (flag), you are saying that they should get less of the reward pool and more should go to other people. The more steem power you have, the more weight your vote has. At the end of the seven days the post is paid out with whatever the community decided it should be paid.
In this current "war" we have a whale that decided that they wanted to vote to give a large portion of the reward pool to @haejin. He has every right to do this. We then had another whale @berniesanders who decided that they wanted less of the reward pool to go to @haejin and more to be paid to everyone else. He also has every right to do this. Where this gets unethical (or abusing flagging power) is when a post is voted to $0 or when @haejin retaliates by downvoting posts out of spite.
People are tending to feel entitled to their potential rewards. Then when they get flagged they feel like it is a personal attack. We all need to be more comfortable with the downvote. It is a critical part of the steem ecosystem and needs to be used by everyone but not abused as it has been by people on both sides of this "war"
Nicely said.
That doesn't make it OK to use the same tactics by abusing the voting system. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Or we just use our tools the correct way, (like most of us are doing) by upvoting to counter the downvotes and downvoting posts we think don't deserve the rewards. It actually works quite well.
I have, and continue to tell anyone who will listen.
Here are my complete thoughts on the matter. https://steemit.com/steem/@littlejoeward/flagging-war-who-is-to-blame-what-on-earth-is-going-on
Nope. This is just like all the dummies running around America asking for handouts and telling rich people to fuck off and die. They have no idea how hard it is to build an empire, so they just try to tear it down and steal from the leftovers. If you make money, you're bad. Unless you're part of the government like Mr Slanders
I live in Argentina, a country built by doing what you just described @scarlet7. Look at the results. Actually... this way of thinking has lead to pretty bad things throughout history people... juts read a bit... or at least watch some John Green videos on YouTube
Here are my complete thoughts on the issue if you're interested. https://steemit.com/steem/@littlejoeward/flagging-war-who-is-to-blame-what-on-earth-is-going-on
That's a very level-headed look at what's happening. Upped and resteemed.
Thanks! I appreciate that!
I remind you of my post. https://steemit.com/steemit/@tuvokhl/why-steemit-is-genius-and-will-beat-the-dunning-kruger-effect
They have to get a lesson. Following wrong idol to much can hurt.
Who made you everybody's parent? People learn from their failures. Let them fail.
You can make an effort to educate without being a flagging ninny. Thanks for the flag by the way, I've decided to give myself a 100% vote to offset it.
Edit: There's a good kernel of an idea in your article but it doesn't account for smug people suffering from DKE throwing their weight around to silence dissenters. Anyway I take it you didn't like me saying that posts from @haejin are valuable. Value is in the eye of the beholder. That's why markets exist so that no one person or group dictates the rate of exchange. Hate coffee? Good, don't buy any ever. That and don't begrudge the value other people put in it.
I know its getting emotional here. Only like this you can make a bigger point.
I just spread the WORD and the VOTE.
Edit: if somebody or a group puts to much value in a coffee i would just try to produce this coffee a little bit cheaper. But with posts i can not ignore it that people just follow it because of fakevalue. And i think the free market of votes decides the value of a post.
@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.
We're cool. Glad to have the conversation.
I know. Glad too.
such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for
such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for