Understanding Lightning in Simple Terms and What It Means for YOU + GET 100SP delegated to you!

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Hi all!

The effects of lightning network coming online is really starting to show. In this video, I explain in layman terms what Lightning is and what you can do to capitalize on this new tech


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This is a great explanation @ddangerwu. There is a lot of promotion of lightning network lately and the fuzz might be of the pumps for btc in the past hours. Finally the community moving forward on this issue. I cant believe huge players like coinbase doing absolutely nothing to improve the network, ridiculous.
Anyways, thanks for sharing.

Thank you for this simple explaination :)
I had many questions about lighting, but you answered them all in the video ^_^

Great video, I've seen a lot of explanation video's about Lightning Network, but this was one of the easiest to understand.

Also appreciate the neutrality of the video, something you see less and less of these days. Great work!

thanks man, I appreciate that. I try not to be political and just talk about the facts.

Hello @ddanggerwu, i won't try to pretend at all, i have only heard about Lightning network once once but your video did it for me.

Its explicitly clear even to the newbie. Thanks man. I appreciate that.

Nice explanation @ddangerwu. I read somewhere that the setting up of lightning nodes might reduce the decentralised nature of the network. I didn't full understand why this was thought to be the case.

Do you know something about it or agree that it might be true?

can you link where you read that?

That's refreshing to read. I still don't fully grasp the information but it worried me that it might not be truly decentralised.

There is more than one LN for bitcoin so no monopoly on the LN. Plus all the diff LN are compatible with each other.

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I had not seen or even known what is lightning network. After watching your video I can now understand and also make people to understand the machanism of working of the it.
But I will replace the Bob with Jenny!!! Leaving jokes apart what I understood is our transactions will be quick and cost benefit ratio will be in our favor.
If a person like me who had never heard about the concept and can understand within three minutes and 13 seconds anybody can, because your method of explanation was too easy and helpful for layman.
Hope you will keep the good work doing, and help the people especially minnows like me (not by deligation but through videos like this) who are not familiar with digital life too much.
Also one thing that I forget to mention is that what ever I had seen in your video was an totally educational purpose, during whole video the neutrality was maintained that I don't see in any other video.
The concept I had about block chain needs to have an immediate updated, as I am a slow learner I think I must start reading now....!!!!!!

haha I gave you an Alice at the end

Thanks for reading my comment, but I love Jenny!!!!!!! and my whole hearted transactions happen with her!!!!!!

I glad you made this video :)
In fact there actually more scaling solutions to bitcoin that "core" will probably add :)
I made article about these issues :)

How segwit is actually a big block increase= https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sames/how-segwit-is-actually-a-big-block-increase
Why big blocks are not the answer= https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sames/why-big-blocks-are-not-the-answer
LN nodes are NOT banks or like banks= https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sames/ln-nodes-are-not-banks-or-like-banks
What is Schoor signatures= https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@tipu/the-next-big-thing-in-bitcoin-network-schnorr-signatures or https://medium.com/@SDWouters/why-schnorr-signatures-will-help-solve-2-of-bitcoins-biggest-problems-today-9b7718e7861c
Bitcoin’s ethereum killer-rsk.co aka the power of sidechains= https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sames/bitcoin-s-ethereum-killer-rsk-co
Bitcoin newest scaling method adding bech32 plus others= https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sames/bitcoin-newest-scaling-method-adding-bech32-plus-others

wow those are some great resources you've made. you might think about making a giant post with all those info and explain a bit about each aspect

I aim to please FYI can you give me your opinion on my project chainmon?
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For now, I'm a proponent of onchain scaling.

Onchain scaling, you say? Well, yes. Onchain scaling will mean that for usage by the whole global population we'd need multi-gigabyte block sizes to store all the transaction data.

And multi-gigabyte block sizes would be a very cumbersome thing unless internet speeds and storage capacities greatly improve. So why would I support onchain scaling?

That's simple. I just want to see layer 2 working in the wild before we start banking upon it.

You see, if I'd read Nakamoto's whitepaper in 2008, I'd have been skeptical too. "Sounds interesting", I might say. "Let's see it works in the wild".

And then it did. Nakamoto et al built the Bitcoin network, and I became a fan of blockchain. So when I hear Elizabeth Stark or Adam Back or Luke Dashjr talk about how wonderful they think LN could be in the future, I say: build it. Show me how great it is.

But to let the network degrade in the manner that Blockstream has—where median fees got to over $40 in December—because they believe that offchain scaling is necessary?

Well, that's absolutely sickening. Blockchain works as a decentralized low-fee electronic cash system. We know it works. I've read the lightning network whitepaper, and they envisage global usage of Bitcoin with lightning network. But they calculated that 133MB blocks will be necessary for that to happen, at current global population. Again, I'm open minded when it comes to second layer, because I don't want to end up in a situation with multi-gigabyte blocks. But if 133MB blocks will be necessary for global usage even with lightning, why in the hell aren't they willing to raise the blocksize from a paltry 1MB to 8MB like Bitcoin Cash?

I'll tell you why. It's because Blockstream don't want onchain to work at all for anything but big transactions, to incentivize use of layer 2.

And that's extremely frustrating for me, because right now we are still at the stage where onchain is fine. Bitcoin Cash raised the blocksize, and the fees dropped off a cliff.

Lightning network is an interesting idea, but there are so many things that could go wrong. The protocol in practice could turn out to be highly centralized, and expensive to access. It could turn out to have unforeseen security holes, or severe unreliability problems. That's why building tech in the real world is necessary before we even dream of becoming reliant on it. We have absolutely no idea how well or badly lightning will work in the wild given the problems that have occurred in the limited testnet trials thus far.

So, I hope lightning network (and similar things) are built. In the long run, I think we probably need something like this in order to scale to a global level. In the short run, we cannot neglect what works, which is blockchain. Bitcoin Cash, for me, is the real Bitcoin, because their devs are going for the low-hanging fruit of raising blocksize to keep the network functioning effectively, instead of banking on exotic second layer solutions which don't even functionally exist yet.

I want Bitcoin to be reliable, and useable, and $5, $10, $20, $40 transaction fees in order to incentivize people to migrate to the lightning network is an absolute ripoff. If the fees are anything like that, people are going to sell their BTC and buy BCH or ETH (or another altcoin) instead of waiting for a lightning network that may or may not ever function properly.

run your own lightning node and see $0.15USD transactions confirmed in 1 block
https://medium.com/@jadmubaslat/bitcoin-lightning-network-node-easy-setup-tutorial-for-windows-desktop-users-a-how-to-guide-9937b5a8a669

this is not in the wild or theory

From very near the top of the post in bold:

"Keep in mind, this is currently for testnet BTC ONLY right now. "

Yeah, OK.

Are you just shilling for Blockstream or do you actually believe this theoretical lightning that only is approved for use on testnet has solved Bitcoin scaling?

It comes with a lot of disclaimers, e.g. "don't use it or you're at risk of losing your funds."

Listen to Rick Falkvinge. He explains some of the potential problems with LN.

I know the problem however LN is now in mainnet and has been successful, it basically beta mainnet and based on current progress it will fully launch on April-June

Um that link is not a good main net LN node link. Here is a better one: https://medium.com/@dougvk/run-your-own-mainnet-lightning-node-2d2eab628a8b

Actually i don't get accurately the @Lightning Network.
I wanna know that. What can I do? @ddangerwu
Waiting for your response....
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the information you convey is very useful. hopefully get guidance and direction

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Finally, a simple explanation. Can't wait to see it in full use.

Nice post.

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Good post!

wao! This is really great, lightning indeed, this is like the greatest idea have seen, cause its high time we curb spam in this new tech. enough is enough.. thumbs up bro

video is might be so much helpful for all thanks for posting.

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Thank you for that insightful information. it was a real help for me as a newbie.

Havent heard anything about lighting until now, but I could see how that would be useful for users who do a lot of trading. The privacy seems like a good idea, Im new to the crypto market, but I personally think its a little strange that I can click on any users wallet on here and see all their transactions. Why is that?

that's actually the beauty of blockchains. it does not rely on secrecy to protect you, rather cryptographically called "hidden in plain sight". for more details, look up P = NP problems

this was very useful. thanks.

awesome video about lighting network, this is the first time i actually sit and read an article about it. hope you keep it up and i will follow you from now on.

That's awesome.. Lightning nodes can solve the scaling problem of the bitcoin. Bitcoins are the gold of the cryptoworld.

Bitcoins will definitely hit $100,000 next year I suppose. What do you think?

Excellent explanation @ddangerwu, thanks for providing us valuable information and for teaching us every week.

Lightning network in my opinion is revolutionary.

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great article in the remembrance of others.

Yes, I did not know what was the lightning and I was about to not complete the reading but I decided to watch the video and then I understood everything and what is the lightning I would regret not to watch the video or read the end of the end Thank you for the information and all this information

Excellent explanation of lightning network, easy to understand.

the post is very interesting @ddangerwu, after i watch i want to apply it

perfect post :) !

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Speed is needed for bitcoin so this is good for that. The biggest problem with bitcoin as far as I am concerned is the excessive miner fees to move your currency and actually use it. As long as those fees remain so high, and as the value of bitcoin increases they just get more insane then it doesn't really matter how fast you make it.

There are so many better choices that are faster by far than even lightning. Better choices that have low or even NO fees.

If anything kills Bitcoin I see it being those fees.

Ln avoids those fees.

you have to pay fees to open a lightning channel. Not so bad if it's $1 per transaction, but if it's $40 like it was in December, it will be a real killer. Better to use second layer with Bitcoin Cash, where fees are less than 1c per transaction, in my opinion.

You would need some type of segwit to use LN. Bitcoin cash refuses to add segwit stated in their site. Plus bitcoin cash supporter say LN violates the whitepaper and all bch dev are researching way to increase the block size, 1 tb is the goal. Plus segwit in bitcoin would make bitcoin do 10 tps with bech 32 making it 12 tps. Eth level. Plus segwit at random times can do 3 mb blocks so meaning 17 tps plus batching of transaction will make the meempool smaller and mast and other segiwt dependent protocols can make bitcoin do 200 tps in a 1mb block. Plus bitcoin will do a hardfork one day for bigger blocks

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This is great news really, it brings back the vision that inspired satoshi, i think he'd be happy.

Great video and easy to understand! Thanks!

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This was a great video that cleared up some things for me. I remembered you telling me that you were setting up a video about this so I had to swing on over.

I believe this is great for bitcoin buyers especially newer ones because since they are hearing about how bitcoin is swelling up in value, I doubt they would want to wait for slow transaction times or high transaction fees and I especially doubt they would try to understand the reasoning behind it and instead just chalk it up as a disadvantage to buying crypto altogether.

I remember dealing with the transaction fees on numerous occasions when I was buying ECC on coinexchange. I was already losing time due to ACH transfer times sending money to coinbase and since I was only putting in small amounts I could afford to lose I was basically putting in nothing worthwhile. It was around this time where coinexchange put limits on depositing small amounts of bitcoin saying that they were eating transaction fees so they would put a penalty charge on everyone who couldn't put a few hundred in bitcoin on the exchange. So in addition for the long wait for the ACH->Coinbase/GDAX->Coinexchange deposit to complete I was having my investment battered along the way by fees. Safe to say many new people might be turned off to investing in crypto that way.

Luckily lightning is showing real progress and making both time and fees pleasant. Hopefully this video can be used to show interested future investors that it is basically as simple as investing towards a stock on Robinhood. Thanks again for this video.

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